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Both President Bushes and a Secret Society
CBSNews.com ^ | Oct. 5, 2003

Posted on 10/08/2003 9:39:35 PM PDT by EsclavoDeCristo

Skull And Bones Oct. 5, 2003

There are secrets that George W. Bush guards at least as carefully as any entrusted to a president.

He's forbidden to share these secrets even with the vice president -- secrets he has held ever since his days as an undergraduate at Yale.

In his senior year, Mr. Bush - like his father and his grandfather - belonged to Skull and Bones, an elite secret society that includes some of the most powerful men of the 20th century.

All Bonesmen, as they're called, are forbidden to reveal what goes on in their inner sanctum, the windowless building on the Yale campus that is called "The Tomb."

There are conspiracy theorists who see Skull and Bones behind everything that goes wrong, and occasionally even right in the world.

Apart from presidents, Bones has included cabinet officers, spies, Supreme Court justices, statesmen and captains of industry - and often their sons, and lately their daughters, too.

It’s a social and political network like no other. And they've responded to outsiders with utter silence – until an enterprising Yale graduate, Alexandra Robbins, managed to penetrate the wall of silence in her book, “Secrets of the Tomb.” Correspondent Morley Safer reports. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ”I spoke with about 100 members of Skull and Bones and they were members who were tired of the secrecy, and that's why they were willing to talk to me,” says Robbins. “But probably twice that number hung up on me, harassed me, or threatened me.”

Secret or not, Skull and Bones is as essential to Yale as the Whiffenpoofs, the tables down at a pub called Mory's, and the Yale mascot - that ever-slobbering bulldog.

Skull and Bones, with all its ritual and macabre relics, was founded in 1832 as a new world version of secret student societies that were common in Germany at the time. Since then, it has chosen or "tapped" only 15 senior students a year who become patriarchs when they graduate -- lifetime members of the ultimate old boys' club.

“Skull and Bones is so tiny. That's what makes this staggering,” says Robbins. “There are only 15 people a year, which means there are about 800 living members at any one time.”

But a lot of Bonesmen have gone on to positions of great power, which Robbins says is the main purpose of this secret society: to get as many members as possible into positions of power.

“They do have many individuals in influential positions,” says Robbins. “And that's why this is something that we need to know about.”

President Bush has tapped five fellow Bonesmen to join his administration. Most recently, he selected William Donaldson, Skull and Bones 1953, the head of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Like the President, he's taken the Bones oath of silence. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosenbaum, author and columnist for the New York Observer, has become obsessed with cracking that code of secrecy.

“I think there is a deep and legitimate distrust in America for power and privilege that are cloaked in secrecy. It's not supposed to be the way we do things,” says Rosenbaum. “We're supposed to do things out in the open in America. And so that any society or institution that hints that there is something hidden is, I think, a legitimate subject for investigation.”

His investigation is a 30-year obsession dating back to his days as a Yale classmate of George W. Bush. Rosenbaum, a self-described undergraduate nerd, was certainly not a contender for Bones. But he was fascinated by its weirdness.

“It's this sepulchral, tomblike, windowless, granite, sandstone bulk that you can't miss. And I lived next to it,” says Rosenbaum. “I had passed it all the time. And during the initiation rites, you could hear strange cries and whispers coming from the Skull and Bones tomb.”

Despite a lifetime of attempts to get inside, the best Rosenbaum could do was hide out on the ledge of a nearby building a few years ago to videotape a nocturnal initiation ceremony in the Tomb's courtyard.

“A woman holds a knife and pretends to slash the throat of another person lying down before them, and there's screaming and yelling at the neophytes,” he says.

Robbins says the cast of the initiation ritual is right out of Harry Potter meets Dracula: “There is a devil, a Don Quixote and a Pope who has one foot sheathed in a white monogrammed slipper resting on a stone skull. The initiates are led into the room one at a time. And once an initiate is inside, the Bonesmen shriek at him. Finally, the Bonesman is shoved to his knees in front of Don Quixote as the shrieking crowd falls silent. And Don Quixote lifts his sword and taps the Bonesman on his left shoulder and says, ‘By order of our order, I dub thee knight of Euloga.’"

It’s a lot of mumbo-jumbo, says Robbins, but it means a lot to the people who are in it.

“Prescott Bush, George W's grandfather, and a band of Bonesmen, robbed the grave of Geronimo, took the skull and some personal relics of the Apache Chief and brought them back to the tomb,” says Robbins. “There is still a glass case, Bonesmen tell me, within the tomb that displays a skull that they all refer to as Geronimo.”

“The preoccupation with bones, mortality, with coffins, lying in coffins, standing around coffins, all this sort of thing I think is designed to give them the sense that, and it's very true, life is short,” says Rosenbaum. “You can spend it, if you have a privileged background, enjoying yourself, contributing nothing, or you can spend it making a contribution.”

And plenty of Bonesmen have made a contribution, from William Howard Taft, the 27th President; Henry Luce, the founder of Time Magazine; and W. Averell Harriman, the diplomat and confidant of U.S. presidents.

“What's important about the undergraduate years of Skull and Bones, as opposed to fraternities, is that it imbues them with a kind of mission for moral leadership,” says Rosenbaum. “And it's something that they may ignore for 30 years of their life, as George W. Bush seemed to successfully ignore it for quite a long time. But he came back to it.”

Mr. Bush, like his father and grandfather before him, has refused to talk openly about Skull and Bones. But as a Bonesman, he was required to reveal his innermost secrets to his fellow Bones initiates.

“They're supposed to recount their entire sexual histories in sort of a dim, a dimly-lit cozy room. The other 14 members are sitting on plush couches, and the lights are dimmed,” says Robbins. “And there's a fire roaring. And the, this activity is supposed to last anywhere from between one to three hours.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What’s the point of this?

”I believe the point of the year in the tomb is to forge such a strong bond between these 15 new members that after they graduate, for them to betray Skull and Bones would mean they'd have to betray their fourteen closest friends,” says Robbins.

One can't help but make certain comparisons with the mafia, for example. Secret society, bonding, stakes may be a little higher in one than the other. But everybody knows everything about everybody, which is a form of protection.

“I think Skull and Bones has had slightly more success than the mafia in the sense that the leaders of the five families are all doing 100 years in jail, and the leaders of the Skull and Bones families are doing four and eight years in the White House,” says Rosenbaum.

Bones is not restricted to the Republican Party. Yet another Bonesman has his eye on the Oval Office: Senator John Kerry, Democrat, Skull & Bones 1966.

“It is fascinating isn't it? I mean, again, all the people say, ‘Oh, these societies don't matter. The Eastern Establishment is in decline.’ And you could not find two more quintessential Eastern establishment, privileged guys,” says Rosenbaum. “I remember when I was a nerdy scholarship student in the reserve book room at, at the Yale Library, and John Kerry, who at that point styled himself ‘John F. Kerry’ would walk in.”

“There was always a little buzz,” adds Rosenbaum. “Because even then he was seen to be destined for higher things. He was head of the Yale Political Union, and a tap for Skull and Bones was seen as the natural sequel to that.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Brooks, a conservative commentator who has published a book on the social dynamics of the upwardly mobile, says that while Skull & Bones may be elite and secret, it's anything but exciting.

“My view of secret societies is they're like the first class cabin in airplanes. They're really impressive until you get into them, and then once you're there they're a little dull. So you hear all these conspiracy theories about Skull and Bones,” says Brooks.

“And to me, to be in one of these organizations, you have to have an incredibly high tolerance for tedium 'cause you're sittin' around talking, talking, and talking. You're not running the world, you're just gassing.”

Gassing or not, the best-connected white man's club in America has moved reluctantly into the 21st Century.

“Skull and Bones narrowly endorsed admitting women,” says Robbins. “The day before these women were supposed to be initiated, a group of Bonesmen, including William F. Buckley, obtained a court order to block the initiation claiming that letting women into the tomb would lead to date rape. Again more legal wrangling; finally it came down to another vote and women were admitted and initiated.”

But Skull & Bones now has women, and it’s become more multicultural.

“It has gays who got the SAT scores, it's got the gays who got the straight A's,” says Brooks. “It's got the blacks who are the president of the right associations. It's different criteria. More multicultural, but it's still an elite, selective institution.”

On balance, it may be bizarre, but on a certain perspective, does it provide something of value?

“You take these young strivers, you put them in this weird castle. They spill their guts with each other, fine. But they learn something beyond themselves. They learn a commitment to each other, they learn a commitment to the community,” says Brooks. “And maybe they inherit some of those old ideals of public service that are missing in a lot of other parts of the country.”

And is that relationship, in some cases, stronger that family or faith?

“Absolutely,” says Robbins. “You know, they say, they say the motto at Yale is, ‘For God, for country, and for Yale.’ At Bones, I would think it's ‘For Bones.'”


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To: EsclavoDeCristo
Robbins invitation to Scull and Bones must have gotten lost in the mail, this has got to account for her petulance and ‘need to know’ about the little club. Ron Rosenbaum’s remark...” “We're supposed to do things out in the open in America...” certainly doesn’t target secrecy where it really counts like Hillary Clinton’s behind closed doors health care of the early ‘90s or what she is up to now. Mr. Rosenbaum’s obsession is not likely to shake the members out of the Yale trees, no matter how successful some of the members have become. Jealously is hardly a reason to give this story ink.

By the way, Geronimo is safely tucked in a grave in Oklahoma under cement. What a silly little story.

61 posted on 10/09/2003 4:51:02 AM PDT by yoe (Term Limits - and 2 terms are the limit for all elected to a Federal office!!)
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To: DeuceTraveler
I will add "order of the arrow", from the BSA to your fine group. No, I did not get invited.
62 posted on 10/09/2003 5:00:54 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
Dean Vernon Wormer: I've got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear. Every spring, the toilets explode.

Greg Marmalard: You're talking about Delta, sir.
63 posted on 10/09/2003 5:15:03 AM PDT by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
CBS is "reaching" when they need to do a hit piece on a fraternity.
64 posted on 10/09/2003 5:21:17 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: JoeGar
CBS has to "reach", they're a good two foot short of relevant.
65 posted on 10/09/2003 5:31:01 AM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. - Impeach activist judges!)
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To: isom35; agitator; shaggy eel
<< .... if its anonymous, how do we or anyone know its being done ... ? >>

You do not -- but the parties involved know -- and God knows.

And insofar as Anonymity matters -- that's all that matters.

Relax.

You probably cannot meet me, except by my invitation, for a luncheon at my club, too. And there is also very little you can do to change that.

And for you both:

[With apologies to GBS and to Lerner and Lowe]

"There'll be spring every year without you.
And my Lodge will be here without you.
There'll be fruit on the tree.
And a shore by the sea.
There'll be crumpets and tea without you.

"Art and music will thrive without you.
Somehow Keats will survive without you.
And there still will be rain on that plain down in Spain,
even that will remain without you.
We can do without you.

"They can still rule with land without you.
Skull and Bones still will stand without you.
And without much ado, we can all muddle through, without you.

"Without your pulling it, the tide comes in
Without your twirling it, the earth can spin
Without your pushing them, the clouds roll by and,
If they can do without you, ducky, so can I.

"We shall not feel alone without you
We can stand on our own without you
So go back in your shell
We can do bloody well
Without You!"
66 posted on 10/09/2003 5:33:16 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: JoeGar
I thought President Bush quit being a "bonesman" after he met Lara and stopped drinking?
67 posted on 10/09/2003 5:38:43 AM PDT by Ramcat
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To: Samwise; EsclavoDeCristo
<< ...... I've got their disciplinary files right here.

Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into Belgrade's kindergarten swim meet?

Who delivered the medical corps cadavers to the Chinese Embassy?

Every Halloween, the trees are filled with the underwear stolen from his political patron's rape victims.

Every spring, the Branch Davidians' toilets explode.

Greg Marmalard: You're talking about Delta, sir. >>

Arkansas KKKlark, the pathetic perfumed prince's, Delta?

The one that mass-murdered the Reverend Koresh and his family and a hundred or so of Reverend Koresh's friends, students and parishioners?

That Delta?
68 posted on 10/09/2003 5:41:42 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
Oh WOW! This has to be a disaster for GW now that this secret is out! (Massive Sarcasm Now Off!)

Sounds like the Wilson/Plameout or Yellowcake Scam II has petered out and the rats are really hardup now.
69 posted on 10/09/2003 6:01:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Fight Liberalism 24/7/365 for only 17 cents / day. Donate $5 monthly to Free Republic.)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
Where are the Viking Kittens when you really need them?

This calls for a ZOT!

70 posted on 10/09/2003 6:04:10 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Fledermaus
"Besides, I thought it was the Masons that ruled the world."

We do...we do! (Sinister laugh)

71 posted on 10/09/2003 6:06:27 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Brian Allen

November, 2004:
President Bush on the Road to Victory ...

72 posted on 10/09/2003 6:36:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
While its true that only social losers are in these 'secret clubs', John Kerry is also a bonesman.
73 posted on 10/09/2003 6:39:51 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: caspera
" actor Fred Gwynn '51 (Herman Munster) "

Fred Gwynn graduated from Harvard ?
74 posted on 10/09/2003 7:48:28 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
Bush actually preferred Delta Kappa Epsilon (DKE) over Skull & Bones. He became President of DKE. Bush also has never attended a Yale reunion since he graduated.

George W. Bush's Journey

And So's Your Old Man Why isn't George W. more like his dad?

75 posted on 10/09/2003 8:47:06 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
Like this news is new, heck the HISTORY channel did a whole hour on the S&B. And yes they did mention that both Bushes were members.
76 posted on 10/09/2003 8:49:20 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Brian Allen
then you dont know either, so we're even.
77 posted on 10/09/2003 9:38:56 AM PDT by isom35
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To: EsclavoDeCristo
Dammit, I'm out of tinfoil, will 'cling wrap'work?
78 posted on 10/09/2003 9:40:30 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Brian Allen

79 posted on 10/09/2003 12:15:28 PM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: ravingnutter
The President is in good company - More Presidents associated with Delta Kappa Epsilon than any other Fraternity....outstanding persons of note below:

Rutherford B. Hayes
Theodore Roosevelt
Gerald R. Ford
George H. W. Bush
George W. Bush
Theodore Roosevelt
J. Danforth Quayle
George Pataki, Governor - New York
Mike Foster, Governor -Louisiana
Tony Knowles, Governor -Alaska
Don Siegelman, Psi, Alabama
Senator Ted Stevens, Alaska
Congressman Cass Ballenger, North Carolina
Congressman Pete Stark, California
Whitelaw Reid, Editor-in-chief, New York Tribune
William Randolph Hearst, Publisher, Hearst Newspapers
Otis Chandler, Publisher, Los Angeles Times
Richard J. V. Johnson, Publisher, Houston Chronicle
Eugene Pulliam, Publisher, Indianapolis Newspapers, Inc.
Rance Craine, Publisher, Crain Communications

John Hessin Clarke, U.S. Supreme Court Justice
Harold H. Burton, U.S. Supreme Court Justice
Potter Stuart, U.S. Supreme Court Justice
William Simon, Former Secretary of the Treasury
John F. Akers, Past President of I.B.M.
Mario Garcia Menocal, President of the Republic of Cuba
Charles Ives, Pulitzer Prize winner in Music
Yuan Schikau, Prime Minister of the Chinese Empire
Henry Cabot Lodge, Senate Majority Leader
Rear Admiral Sidney W. Souers, first director of the C.I.A.
Melvil Dewey, devised the Dewey Decimal System
Charles A. Ellis, designed the Golden Gate Bridge
Robert A. Peary, first man to reach the North Pole
Alan Bean, Apollo astronaut, walked on the moon
J. Pierpont Morgan, financier
Irving H. Chase, Chase Manhattan Bank
Dean Witter, Jr., Dean Witter & Co.
Edward Bausch, Bausch & Lomb Opticals
William W. Wrigley, Wrigley's Gum
Howard Heinz, Heinz 57 Varieties
Howard Johnson, Howard Johnson Motor Inns
James M. Gamble, Proctor and Gamble
Herb Kelleher, Southwest Airlines
Fred Smith, Federal Express
Paul Brown, coach of Cleveland Browns and owner of Cincinnati Bengals
Thomas W. Landry, coach of Dallas Cowboys
Joe Paterno, Penn State football coach
George Steinbrenner, owner of the New York Yankees
Don Schollander, won four gold medals in swimming in 1964 Olympics
Calvin Hill, Yale football star
Hugh Culverhouse, owner of Tampa Bay Buccaneers
A. Bartlett Giamatti, Commissioner of Major League Baseball
Dick Clark, hosted American Bandstand
Harry Hamlin, actor
Cole Porter, composer
Jonathan Winters, comedian and writer

80 posted on 10/09/2003 12:33:53 PM PDT by Range Rover (Karma is a boomerang...)
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