This is just common sense. My family has had emergency plans in place since the cold war (before I was born), and my kids are being taught the same things today. If anything, these recommendations don't go far enough. But more importantly,
Why do we need a Department of Homeland Security to waste tax money on this, while leaving our borders wide open?On another note, get a load of this:
"Shame on them if after two years, this is all they can come up with. Its not up to citizens to protect and defend themselves -- this is why we pay taxes," he said. (Juval Aviv, author of "The Complete Terrorism Survival Guide-emphasis added)
Somehow I don't think Mr. Aviv's book will top the Freeper required reading list!
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2 posted on
10/06/2003 4:23:16 AM PDT by
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To: cf_river_rat
Interesting timing on this article. I just flushed and refilled my emergency drinking water supply yesterday (two 8-gallon jugs), and inventoried and restocked my 3-day car kit and home kit.
3 posted on
10/06/2003 4:30:15 AM PDT by
strela
(Will Tom McClintock have to "make a re$ervation" to pay back all that Indian money?)
To: cf_river_rat
>>...This little tote bag -- what type of terrorism is this going to prevent?" said Juval Aviv, author of "The Complete Terrorism Survival Guide." "If theres a suicide bomb in the subway, theres nothing in that bag that will help you prevent it or survive. It's like a bandage over a major wound."...<<
That's probabaly one of the stupidest things I've ever read. This author is an idiot.
Hey Juval, if the subway gets bombed and you're stuck downtown in your office for days without a bug-out bag, what are you gonna eat, the furniture????
Oh, I know, you'll be sitting there waiting for the GOVERNMENT to come feed you.
5 posted on
10/06/2003 4:34:42 AM PDT by
FReepaholic
(www.september-11-videos.com Never Forget.)
To: cf_river_rat
What kind of idiot is this Aviv guy anyway? In the event of a disaster, lets say you are required for whatever reason, more than likely the weather, to stay in your car, office, or home without utilities for any length of time, this kit makes perfect sense! Ask anyone that has been stranded anywhere for any length of time and I can guarantee they would have wanted a kit with them.
IMHO knowing that I would have at least 3 days worth of food and water would probably cut the tendency to panic in half.
6 posted on
10/06/2003 4:35:14 AM PDT by
EuroFrog
(Im going to Disneyland!......EuroDisney that is.)
To: cf_river_rat
We just had a Red Cross presentation about this at work the other day. What really bothered me is that only 2 of us showed up! And both of us already are pretty well aware of what's needed in a emergency, so they were sort of "preachin' to the choir".
I'm putting together a bag for my parents (who live outside of NYC) as part of their Christmas present. I was down there for a visit during the blackout in August and they didn't have any extra water or even batteries for the radio! We ended up stealing batteries from my nephews toys.
I was appalled - after living through 9/11 (and losing neighbors to it) and the anthrax attacks you'd think they'd have put at least some batteries aside.
LQ
To: cf_river_rat
I have plenty of emergency supplies in our home.
I've often pondered the practicality of evacuation in a "short notice" emergency.
A hurricane is one thing, evacuating in advance to escape an oncoming disaster. But in a terrorist attack, advising people to evacuate via car in a major metropolitan area, will just leave folks more vulnerable, IMHO.
Look at Manhattan during the blackout, you sit in your car for hours to inch along at a snails pace.
Can somebody explain to me the logic of evacuation via car in a metro area?
8 posted on
10/06/2003 4:39:20 AM PDT by
dawn53
To: cf_river_rat
A FReeper said on another thread that he had a pistol and a liberal neighbor that doesn't believe in firearms that will supply everything he needs in an emergency. ;o)
That's not a quote but you get the idea.
To: cf_river_rat
"be informed about possible threats.
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The Department of Homeland Security has cried wolf so many times that any warning they put out is immediately discounted.
In other news today, the DHS threat level status indicator has been upgraded to RED. Across the country millions of people are asking each other, "Exactly what the f*ck does RED mean?" We now return you to the laugh already in progress.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHOOOOOAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
To: cf_river_rat
If any of you needs the useless Dept. of Homeland Security to tell them how to prepare their families for the unexpected, get yourself a roll of duct tape and hang yourself with it. Do us all a favor and take yourself out of the gene pool.
Another giant, useless, expensive bureaucracy spending our money on busy-work to make themselves look as if we need them.
The best thing the Dept. of "Homeland" Security can do for America and Americans is shut their doors for good.
11 posted on
10/06/2003 4:47:42 AM PDT by
AAABEST
(http://www.floridasoundoff.com)
To: cf_river_rat
I have an emergency bag...but the bad news is that the most likely "emergency" will be a tornado, and if it hits, both the bag and the house will probably blow away...
My son was caught at relatives in North Carolina during a hurricane evacuation, and had to help evacuate his sick father in law, so yes, bags would come in handy for hurricanes, floods, and terrorism.
12 posted on
10/06/2003 4:48:33 AM PDT by
LadyDoc
(liberals only love politcially correct poor people.)
To: cf_river_rat
Check out
Equipped to Survive. Lots of instructions and advice on survival kits for all uses. I've met the owner - he's a pilot, which got him into this, I think.
14 posted on
10/06/2003 4:57:57 AM PDT by
snopercod
("leader" is English for "führer")
To: cf_river_rat
Don't forget the gun.
15 posted on
10/06/2003 5:04:05 AM PDT by
aomagrat
(IYAOYAS)
To: cf_river_rat
Leftists think it is someone elses responsibility to take care of them. Self reliance requires effort that can better be expended by others whose job it is to insure one's well being.
If I am thirsty, I'll beg for water from my neighbor. We are all brothers and he owes me.
16 posted on
10/06/2003 5:12:03 AM PDT by
bert
(Don't Panic!)
To: cf_river_rat
This reminds me of the idiotic "Duck and Cover" exercises school children were taught during the cold war, and the backyard "bomb shelters" hyped at that time. As if school desks and family shelters would offer protection against a hydrogen bomb blast.
The times, the threats, and the enemy have changed, but the government mentality plows along as it always has.
17 posted on
10/06/2003 5:22:54 AM PDT by
Noachian
(Liberalism belongs to the Fool, the Fraud, and the Vacuous)
To: cf_river_rat
Aviv also pointed out that having a flashlight or a granola bar won't help victims of a chemical or biological attack.
I am so tired of this type of argument. SDI would do no good against a plane crashing into a building. A standing army doesn't help if the Soviets launch a missle at us.
This is like saying I shouldn't bother to lock my doors because someone can come in my window.
18 posted on
10/06/2003 5:30:06 AM PDT by
gitmo
(Zero Tolerance = Intolerance)
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19 posted on
10/06/2003 5:40:16 AM PDT by
backhoe
(Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
To: cf_river_rat
"Shame on them if after two years, this is all they can come up with. Its not up to citizens to protect and defend themselves -- this is why we pay taxes," he said. This is actually the way that liberals think.
22 posted on
10/06/2003 5:53:12 AM PDT by
SamAdams76
(212.4 (-87.6) Homestretch to 200)
To: cf_river_rat
Its not up to citizens to protect and defend themselvesAnother serf in search of a Tyrant.
Sad...really, really sad that this person thinks in such ways.
23 posted on
10/06/2003 5:55:52 AM PDT by
ItsOurTimeNow
("Forth now, and fear no darkness!")
To: cf_river_rat; Squantos; Travis McGee; harpseal
Go bags? This is supposed to be new? It seems we have had discussions in the past about what we have in ours, types, etc. Glad to see the information getting out. Old news can be good news.
To: cf_river_rat
We have twin kits at home and in the car.
12 500mg Cipro tablets
Extended First Aid Kit
9mm with ammunition
Holy Bible
26 posted on
10/06/2003 6:09:28 AM PDT by
montag813
(Fire Tenet...Jail Joseph Wilson...Rally 'Round Our President, Dammit!!!)
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