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Patrick J. Buchanan: "Mass Immigration: Suicide Pill of the GOP"
WND.com ^ | 10-01-03 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

Posted on 10/01/2003 5:50:25 AM PDT by Theodore R.

Mass immigration: Suicide pill of the GOP

Posted: October 1, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

Normally, the Census Bureau releases its Current Population Survey on a Tuesday, late in September, at the National Press Club. This year, the survey was released Friday afternoon, at the Census Bureau suburban headquarters in Suitland, Md.

When you see the numbers, you can appreciate why Karl Rove would want to get this behind us and move on.

In 2002, median household income in the United States fell for the second year in a row, from $42,900 to $42,409. The national decline was 1.1 percent, but among Hispanics, the fall-off was 2.9 percent.

The poverty rate – below $18,392 for a family of four – rose from 11.7 percent to 12.1 percent. But, among African-Americans, poverty rose from 22.7 percent to 24.1 percent of the population.

Certainly, the recession of 2001 and the "jobless recovery" go far toward explaining what the New York Times ominously described as "the second straight year of adverse changes in both poverty and income, the first two-year downtown since the early 1990s."

Like the Times, we all remember who was president in the early 1990s, as does George W. Bush.

But there are mega-trends in society that have been working for decades to keep the poverty numbers high and median incomes low. And though they feed the endless expansion of Big Government and prevent any downsizing of the Welfare State, these trends have been endorsed by a GOP Establishment that seems to be committing suicide in broad daylight.

The mega-trends are two: the deindustrialization of America, the direct result of a globalism preached and practiced by Bush Republicans, and mass immigration, also preached and promoted by Bush Republicans.

If you think these marginal changes in the Census Bureau's poverty and income figures are dramatic, consider these September statistics from the Center for Immigration Studies:

During the 1990s, the immigrant Hispanic population in the United States doubled – to 14 million. Total immigrant population grew from 19.6 million to 31 million.

The immigrant population from South Asia rose by 141 percent, and from sub-Sahara Africa by 174 percent.

We have in America today a nation within a nation, inexorably expanding, of peoples from continents and countries who have never been fully assimilated into any Western or First World country before.

Many of these folks arrived poor and unable to read, write or speak the English language. Almost all arrived with incomes well below the median of American families.

Their inclusion in Census figures must invariably pull the numbers downward. These numbers then serve as grist for the mills of those who say we must raise taxes for social programs to assist the newly poor among us.

Immigrants consume social services – welfare, food stamps, housing subsidies, free schools, prison cells – at rates far greater than our native-born. And as long as the immigrant poor continue pouring in, the great American Welfare State will be endlessly replenished with new recruits, and that Welfare State will never disappear.

That is as America's statists and liberals mean it to be. But why are conservatives and Republicans going along?

Under President Bush, perhaps 2.5 million immigrants, legal and illegal, entered the United States, as an identical number of factory jobs vanished. As we export factory jobs abroad, foreign nations export their poor here – to be fed, housed, medicated and schooled by U.S. taxpayers.

This is what they call "free trade."

Consider education.

With our native-born population stable, there is no need for new schools, except to replace old schools. New schools, the cost of which is paid by property taxes, sales taxes and state income taxes, are being built by taxpayers primarily for immigrant children, legal and illegal.

In 1960, when America was 97 percent native born, scholastic test scores rose every year. But as children from Third World countries arrive, less prepared linguistically and academically to learn, their test scores drag down average scores. And when the average test scores fall, the education lobby demands more funding "to get the test scores up," even as it demands open borders, which keep the test scores down.

And so the game goes on.

Then, when immigrant kids grow up to become U.S. citizens, they register and vote Democratic. In 1996, first-time Hispanic voters went for Clinton over the Dole-Kemp open-borders ticket 91 percent to 6 percent.

"The Tories are the stupid party," said John Stuart Mill. Wrong on many counts, J. S. sure nailed that one.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: asians; clinton; democrats; dole; gwbush; immigrantlist; immigration; jsmill; kemp; latinos; lowincomes; patbuchanan; poverty; republicans; rove; schools; taxation; tories; welfarestate
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To: dennisw
Plus at the rate we are caving in they will be allowed to collect for what they paid into SS, somewhere down the road.

What SS fund would that be? Unless the SS rate goes to 50%, the SS fund will be insolvent in about 20 years.

61 posted on 10/01/2003 10:20:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: dennisw
Pat is right on this one and has been right on it for at least 15 years.

And he got crucified for being right, just like Tancredo is now being crucified by the "compassionate conservatives".

62 posted on 10/01/2003 10:20:16 AM PDT by janetgreen (Attention Mr. President: America is being invaded. WAKE UP!)
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To: Fishrrman
California's demographics are changing fast, and they are moving in only one direction. Some folks are movin' in, others are movin' out. They ain't gonna go back where they were, not soon, not ever. Having said that, I've come to the conclusion that it really doesn't matter much _who_ gets elected in California.

Some of you are a little slow at grasping what is really happening, or just refuse to see the big picture.

Let me correct your post, to make it more accurate, the *real* big picture.

America's demographics are changing fast, and they are moving in only one direction. Some folks are movin' in, others are movin' out. They ain't gonna go back where they were, not soon, not ever.

Having said that, I've come to the conclusion that it really doesn't matter much _who_ gets elected in America.

Don't beleive this? I have about 120 current articles to back this up..The demographics are changing from Texas to Tennessee, to Utah, to Georgia, North Carolina, Idaho, Florida, Illinois, Arizona, Washington, Colorado, etc..... This is not somehow isolated to California, and in reality, extends *far* beyond the borders of Cal....

63 posted on 10/01/2003 10:21:27 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Snidely Whiplash

64 posted on 10/01/2003 10:24:21 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: junta
Talk about conspiracies then immigration is the big one with all its lies and people willing to lie for it to continue on a nation swamping course.

You bet. This is clearly one of the largest conspiracies in American history.

As some of us have known for some years now, it is becoming the biggest crisis ever facing this nation, and in the very near future, as it continues to escalate, it has the potential to get extremely ugly on a nationwide basis....

65 posted on 10/01/2003 10:28:17 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: janetgreen
Of course Buchanan and Tancredo are right. That's why the attack upon them. It's all part of the government approved invasion of our country....
66 posted on 10/01/2003 10:29:54 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: joesnuffy
abandoning its conservative base

Maybe that reflects the trend that, like the south in the 1840s and 50s, WE are the ones becoming marginalized by a sub-class that can consistently vote monies out of our pocketbooks and into theirs... Politicians go where the votes are, so if the Pubs figure they can get more votes from the left than from the base, they will move left. Personally I think the country is moving right, but maybe that's just me. If so, I fear chaos is right around the corner. And back to the 60s we go.
67 posted on 10/01/2003 10:31:38 AM PDT by johnb838 (Deconstruct the Left)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
... 6 million illegals using bugus SS numbers to work ...

I admire your optimism.

68 posted on 10/01/2003 10:35:05 AM PDT by Prolixus (Summum ius summa inuria.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Exactly, we are constantly bombarded by articles or features on the need for "minority" racial power politics, yet when someone mentions any negative effects out comes the faction who blabber on about assimilation. We can't win, but of course we are not supposed to in the first place. I have done a personal cost/benefit analysis of liberalism and I've come to the conclusion that it does not benefit me in the least, not even when it is proposed by "conservatives." So every liberal I have the displeasure of debating I ask them what the hell is in it for me.
69 posted on 10/01/2003 11:06:21 AM PDT by junta (Xenophobia a perfectly reasonable response to the feckless stupidity of globalism.)
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To: Theodore R.
That have never been integrated in any first world country before

huh? THe concept of First, second and third world countries is only about 60 years old, starting after WWII when most of the world was, what we may consider now, as third world ;-)
70 posted on 10/01/2003 11:25:59 AM PDT by Cronos (W2004)
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To: Theodore R.
Then, when immigrant kids grow up to become U.S. citizens, they register and vote Democratic.

This is the most important fact in Pats article. I don't know how any Conservative or Republican can ignore this. We will be overwhelmed at the ballot box if this keeps up.

71 posted on 10/01/2003 11:31:03 AM PDT by Missouri
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To: MissAmericanPie
At the grocery store yesterday, I stood in line behind an illegal sending a thousand dollars to Mexico.

You asked him or you have ESP?

72 posted on 10/01/2003 11:37:02 AM PDT by PRND21
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To: Theodore R.
TennCare was brought to our great state by DemonRat Gov. McWherter, "an experiment involving a new approach to medicare for the poor and uninsured". It has been ballooning ever since. It has never seemed to occur to our governor and legislators to go back to the central government, on their knees, begging to be allowed to drop the TennCare waiver and reenter the Medicaid program.

We have only avoided a state income tax by the skin of our teeth in the last few years. Grass roots conservatives all over the state have kept the heat on their representatives. Most of the Dim legislators and an embarassingly large number of GOPers want an income tax, as do the "elites": newspapers, local TV, teachers' union, etc., etc. (i.e., all who feed at the public trough).
73 posted on 10/01/2003 11:45:09 AM PDT by reelfoot
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Joe Hadenuf writes [using some of my own words]:
America's demographics are changing fast, and they are moving in only one direction. Some folks are movin' in, others are movin' out. They ain't gonna go back where they were, not soon, not ever.
Having said that, I've come to the conclusion that it really doesn't matter much _who_ gets elected in America.
Don't beleive this? I have about 120 current articles to back this up..The demographics are changing from Texas to Tennessee, to Utah, to Georgia, North Carolina, Idaho, Florida, Illinois, Arizona, Washington, Colorado, etc..... This is not somehow isolated to California, and in reality, extends *far* beyond the borders of Cal....

Yes, Joe, you're pretty much on target, but not all of America is going to "get there" as rapidly as _you_ are, in California.

I call it the "Titanic syndrome".

Remember how the Titanic sank after striking the iceberg? Bow first. As the water poured into the forward compartments, the bow sank lower and lower. At the same time, the stern rose higher, actually lifting completely out of the water.

Those who could, fled toward the stern to keep above the waterline, even with the knowledge that the ship was eventually going under. But they sought to stay away from the oncoming doom for as long as possible.

So it seems to be going with America, which probably cannot survive as a unified, mono-cultural nation. Eventually, the rapid and relentless invasion of nonwhites -- who have absolutely NO "cultural connection" to what America [historically] was -- will overwhelm those who _do_ represent "traditional" Americans (read: YOU, Joe, and ME). That won't happen EVERYwhere for quite some time, and perhaps, in a few geographical areas, won't happen at all, although the "majority-white" areas will be but enclaves in a sea of third-worlders, as white enclaves exist (for how much longer, is anyone's guess) in South Africa (can anyone ignore what's happening to whites in Zimbabwe?).

But one thing's for certain: it's that California is the "bow" of the American Titanic. Whatever the nation's fate is going to be, it's almost certain that you're going to see the dark side of that future first.

You can stay and accept the inevitable; or you can leave and head for "higher ground". The future will be uncertain even there. But at least the "America" that we were born into may exist there a little longer...

Something worth reading:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991163/posts

Closing thoughts: might we have to go to war with Mexico to _prevent_ her from taking over the U.S by demographics? Could the _only_ possible counter-attack against Mexican/Hispanic innundation be ANNEXATION of Mexico and Central America by the United States, forcing them into the American Union?

Cheers!
- John

74 posted on 10/01/2003 12:02:31 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Snidely Whiplash
I'd bet you've never spoken to your Asian neighbors, have you

Matter of fact, I have. We have given them clothes.

What, exactly is "assimilated," anyway

It means they adjust to this country, not we adjust to them.

Would you expect that they become fluent in English

They're certainly fluent enough to throw F-U-*-K's and other obscenties around loudly.

all those earlier European immigrants crowded into - the Chinatowns and Little Italys and Germantowns - I'm sure that those names were applied merely as random conveniences, rather than a way to connote who lived in those areas.

Now you're getting warm. They lived in that area because taxpayers didn't move them into a home they didn't work for and give them food stamps and welfare.

why are you pissing and moaning on FR, instead of doing something to maybe (gently) push these folks to adjust to our society?

Are you kidding? They stand in large groups in the middle of the street and dare people to drive their car thru. You're living in a dream world.

So you think I should teach them how to be decent neighbors, while I work and they live off of my money? The point you are ignorant of is taxpayers are supporting these immigrants.

75 posted on 10/01/2003 12:21:26 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Snidely Whiplash
Your ignorance screams from this statement. You still have to have a legitimate reason to get into the country

You're the ignorant one. What does that have to do with the subject of taxpayers supporting them?

That's certainly a dispositive statement. It's really not much better than saying it's true because you heard it from a friend. Critical Thinking Is Good.

Oh really. Maybe you need to wake up and realize that Somalians and others have networking. You must think they communicate with smoke signals or something. It goes like this, Somalian comes over, goes directly to center for Somalians that directs Somalian to welfare agency and housing assistance. Critical thinking is good.

76 posted on 10/01/2003 12:28:07 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"Since they are illegal and paying into bogus SS accounts, the government can simply ignore them when they are of SS pension age. "

Under current law, people who worked illegally in the U.S. can only become eligible for Social Security benefits by becoming citizens or legal permanent residents.

But officials at the State Department and Social Security Administration (SSA) are preparing a plan that would pay benefits to illegal aliens who have returned to Mexico.Even if a Mexican citizen had not worked in the U.S. long enough to qualify for benefits, the number of years worked in Mexico would be added to the total, thus making him or her eligible to receive a monthly check from the U.S. government

In its first year alone, the SSA expects that the plan will trigger 37,000 new claims.

Such an agreement would further strain Social Security at a time when concerns about a shortfall are rising and would add hundreds of thousands of Mexican citizens to the rolls just as the baby-boom generation is about to begin retiring in droves.

“Under the terms of this proposal, an alien who entered the U.S. illegally, violated our employment laws, worked fewer than the required number of years to be eligible for Social Security, and then returned to Mexico could collect full U.S. Social Security benefits—while living in Mexico,” says Dan Stein. “All the while, our children are being told that the Social Security system may be drained dry by the time they retire.”

In 1996, Congress barred illegal aliens from claiming Social Security benefits, but this treaty would invalidate that law.

Full article and more information can be found here.

77 posted on 10/01/2003 1:08:54 PM PDT by Klickitat
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To: ArcLight
Pat Buchanan has about as much credibility on deciding GOP strategy as Al Gore. Less actually.

78 posted on 10/01/2003 1:13:47 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Theodore R.
Darn right, Pat!
79 posted on 10/01/2003 1:15:44 PM PDT by abigail2 (Refuse to do business with companies that are bilingual...)
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To: zbigreddogz
I'm sure you're right--the GOP is not likely to ask Pat his views on anything. They need to, however, because their head-in-the-sand stand on immigration is pathetic. Our social services are swamped, taxpayers are taking it in the rear, the big majority of the immigrants (legal and illegal) will vote RAT, and the checked-pant Republicans seem to care less. I'm a lot more attracted by Pat's stand on the immigration issue that the GOP's "come one, come all" approach.
80 posted on 10/01/2003 1:31:21 PM PDT by reelfoot
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