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Novak: Wilson's Wife Not a Covert CIA Agent
NewsMax.com ^ | 9/29/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 09/29/2003 9:46:58 PM PDT by kattracks

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To: Grampa Dave; Dog; mewzilla; okie01
Here's the BBC story. There's speculation that the "CIA Official" who leaked to the BBC could be Valerie Plame.

Read it for yourself and decide.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3056626.stm
121 posted on 09/30/2003 10:45:54 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Robert_Paulson2
No, actually I'm not. I owe you an apology; I thought that you were someone else. We're on the same side.

I mistook your initial statement as trying to downplay the guilt of the democrats by saying, "Well both sides do it," but after reading through some of your posting history it's clear to me that that is not what you were doing.

122 posted on 09/30/2003 10:46:48 AM PDT by alnick
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To: alnick
thanks... and an apology is NOT needed.
just a minor "adjustment".

kewl.
123 posted on 09/30/2003 12:44:35 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert... the rino...)
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To: Shermy
My money's on Plame.
124 posted on 09/30/2003 12:46:50 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: kattracks
Still, hours after Novak went public with a clarification of Mrs. Wilson's status, she was described as a "undercover agent" by former White House chief of staff David Gergen in an interview with Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren, and as a "covert agent" by MSNBC's Chris Matthews.

The way the media will back down from this is to start referring to her as a person who "some have called an undercover or covert agent."

-PJ

125 posted on 09/30/2003 12:49:06 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Lady Heron
Then you don't read very much.

Please educate me ... which Christian denomination admonishes its followers over who they vote for and/or threatens excommunication ?

I'm sure that few,if any of us agree 100% with President Bush, or anyother president, for that matter. No politicain is ever going to give his/her supporters 100%, nor even 80% of what they want. But, at least you're going to vote for him again, which is NOT the case for many of Tom's most ardent supporters, no matter where they live.

126 posted on 09/30/2003 2:31:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Then you don't read very much.

You would be wrong. The last time I checked Bush was still Pro-Life, Pro-America. The only thing I fault him for is not being Pro-small government. When he looses his pro-life stance and becomes willing to give us over to the UN I will change my mind on Bush. My morals would not let me vote for Arnold but will let me vote for Bush. I have never yet seen a strong pro-choice Republican, they always cave and vote with the dims on moral and economic issues, you might as well vote for the real thing in that case. They don't call them Rhinos for nothing.

The whinning about the conservative Christians not voting for Arnold is rediculous. If the Republican party wanted that vote they would put up people they could vote for not whine when they refuse to budge. Without Tom in the race I would sit this one out for the first time in my life and not vote if I lived in California. It does not, as of this minute corespond to not voting for Bush, besides the only ones I see saying that they refuse to vote for Bush this time around are libertarians who are not likely to vote for Tom anyway.

I have started staying away from the California threads because of comments like yours. If the Republican party wants the conservative Christian vote they will put up people they can vote for, otherwise they need to draw enough people from the left to cover for the loss, because those people would rather not vote than vote for the lesser of evils, because in their minds it is still evil.

127 posted on 09/30/2003 2:59:48 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Political Junkie Too
What Vincent Cannistraro said on Sam Donaldson's radio show this morning is that Plame used to be an undercover CIA operative running agents, and that she is currently still an undercover employee -- or at least was until she was just outed -- and works, currently, as an analyst. He's probably in a position to know.
128 posted on 09/30/2003 3:03:27 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: kattracks
"According to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operative, and not in charge of undercover operatives," Novak told his audience on CNN's "Crossfire."

If Novak's CIA source spoke in the present tense, and Plame is a former covert operative, then the source could have been speaking the truth, and blowing Plame's cover could still have been a crime.

129 posted on 09/30/2003 3:04:58 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Ann Archy
According to Jim Angle, just now on Fox, she was undercover, but that itself was a secret, so, even though everyone knew she worked at CIA, the "fact" that she was working undercover was a secret? OK. Let me get this straight. It was widely known that she worked at CIA, but that was a cover so that she could really be a CIA spy?

Now, that's not as crazy as you think. My wifes uncle was a crypie for the CIA in their embassies overseas. He needed a cover identity because being the crypie for the CIA was a secret. Therefore the "cover" identity for him was that he was a crypie for the Pentagon. See, it makes perfect sense.....

wrapping duct tape tightly around my head so that when it explodes I'll still have all of the PIECES......

130 posted on 09/30/2003 3:10:41 PM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: aristeides
Her field was in the weapons proliferation dept at the CIA, either as an investigator or researcher.
131 posted on 09/30/2003 3:34:59 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Phsstpok
So She WAS a spy!! What IDIOT thought of this ploy? Sending a hack to sip tea and hang out at the Embassy while the "little woman" gathers Intel and EVERYONE KNOWS she works for the CIA??

GEORGE TENET!!

132 posted on 09/30/2003 3:58:59 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: kattracks
Novak: Wilson's Wife Not a Covert CIA Agent

you wouldnt know it by watching brokaw, jennings and rather you would think they all just found out they won the powerball jackpot with the gleam in their eyes.
133 posted on 09/30/2003 4:01:02 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Ann Archy
So She WAS a spy!!

actually, no. We don't know. My personal sources tell me she wasn't. Further, they tell me that she was a Clinton drone put in place as a "spinner" or a "minder" to make sure that the "proper" interpretation of the "evidence" was put forward. None of that is confimed or discredited. Neither is the info that she was a spy. Her husband very pointedly would NOT go on record that his wife was an undercover agent. As a practical matter she's blown, even if she was undecover, so what's he protecting? Certainly not national security. He destoryed that by violating his sworn oath and legal responsibility to keep secret his involvement in the investigation. No matter what else comes out of this he should be branded a criminal, if not a traitor.

My instincts tell me that this is a put up and she's a political drone being used by the enemies of this country. She may or may not be among those enemies. We need to KNOW, not be fed partisan spin.

my anecdote about my wifes uncle was meant only to illustrate that even the most ludicrous set of circumstances shouldn't be taken as proof or as evidence of lack of proof. I want the questions asked and answered. Of Bush's people and of Wilson and his supporters. I want to know who is serving the interests of this country and who is not. I have my prejudices. I want to get some facts.

134 posted on 09/30/2003 5:03:19 PM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Phsstpok
the enemies of this country are the liberals. But I do find it interesting that she may have "moled" around while her husband drank tea. The Embassy staff in NIGER needs to be Questioned...ASAP.
135 posted on 09/30/2003 6:15:27 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Phsstpok
"My instincts tell me that this is a put up and she's a political drone being used by the enemies of this country. She may or may not be among those enemies. We need to KNOW, not be fed partisan spin."

Personally, my money's on Miss Valerie being the "CIA source" quoted in the July 3 Beeb story that Shermy linked in #121. She and her husband, "the former diplomat", look very much like a husband-wife tag team of Democrat spinners to me.

But, like you, I want to KNOW what's really going on here. I've got my suspicions, but it's far better to have the truth.

136 posted on 09/30/2003 7:02:39 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: Lady Heron
Rudy Giulliani, for one, is a VERY strong economic Conservative and a LAW & ORDER guy. He is a much stronger pro-abortion GOPer, than Arnold is. Yet, Rudy NEVER " caved " for any Dem, on much of anything at all and ceratinly NOT on taxes, which he lowered. I can name others, but don't care to waste the bandwidth, on someone who doesn't know what's what.

Again ... the term RINO, as YOU are using it, is erronious. Please learn the exact meaning of the term prior to using it again.

No one, that I've heard/read, is " whining about Christians not voting for Arnold ". You enjoy making things up, I see.

You're just a DOG IN THE MANGER Conserrvative/GOPer...if you'd stay home, if Tom wasn't in the race and not vote. It's people, such as yourself, who deserve all of the pain, suffering, and taxes, that you'd get, if others didn't know and understand politics, far better than you.

The kind of people YOU are demanding the GOP put up, will LOSE ecery single election. That you don't realize this, is a misfortune. And, dear, " people like me ", include Ann Coulter, the California GOP, almost every CONSERVATIVE talking head on radio & T.V., to mention but a few.

137 posted on 09/30/2003 7:40:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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