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Mel Gibson Ignores Hollywood Rules on Jesus
NY Newsday ^ | September 29, 2003 | Thomas Doherty

Posted on 09/29/2003 8:25:13 AM PDT by presidio9

Cecil B. DeMille was smarter than Mel Gibson. In 1927, when DeMille filmed his version of the life of Christ, "The King of Kings," he covered all the theological bases by placing on the payroll a Protestant minister, a Catholic priest and a rabbi. Gibson, director and co-author of "The Passion," billed as the most authentic version of the life and death of Christ ever filmed, refused to have the high priests of official religion vet his vision and, the way things are going, they're going to crucify him.

Though "The Passion" won't be released until Ash Wednesday in April, it has already sparked a storm of controversy because of fears that Gibson will resurrect not the good word of the New Testament but the old libel of the Jews as "Christ killers."

Responding to Gibson's unrepentant defense of the film in last week's New Yorker, Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, accused the director of entertaining "views that can only be described as anti-Semitic."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cecilbdemille; hollywood; melgibson; thepassion
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To: Question_Assumptions
I thought I was the only person who had ever seen The Rapture. I really liked that movie.
41 posted on 09/29/2003 3:25:32 PM PDT by halfdome
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To: presidio9
The only thing I care about is, does Mel Gibson stay true to the Bible? If he does that, and doesn't "catholicize" the story of Jesus (e.g., deifying Mary), I will be happy.
42 posted on 09/29/2003 3:27:38 PM PDT by paulklenk (DEPORT HILLARY!)
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To: halfdome
I wish The Rapture wasn't as explicit and didn't have that "R" rating because I'm sure it keeps people from watching it who might otherwise find it interesting. I personally got a very pro-Christian message from the end of it.
43 posted on 09/29/2003 3:43:19 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: presidio9
...refused to have the high priests of official religion vet his vision and, the way things are going, they're going to crucify him.

Probably the best compliment he can receive.

I consider myself Catholic and regilious, but certainly don't need my religion filtered through men of questionable morals.
Or my movies.

44 posted on 09/29/2003 3:52:18 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: jjm2111
This article wasn't too bad. But if the movie is in Aramaic with no subtitles I ain't seeing it.

Don't be such a baby!

45 posted on 09/29/2003 3:54:31 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: kstewskis
I can say without a doubt that Mel Gibson is committed to his faith.

Judging from the shrill of Abraham Foxman, he doesn't seem to committed to his. What a classless individual.

46 posted on 09/29/2003 5:44:07 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom.... needs a soldier !)
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To: lonevoice; Northern Yankee
If I recall, Mel only agreed to add some subtitles after having so much trouble getting a distributor for the film. Many of his friends for whom he screened the film suggested that adding subtitles would help with distribution.

I'd have to agree with him on that account, and don't blame him. I do hope that when the DVD is released, we'll have the choice to turn the subtitles off.

I am really anxious to see the movie as Mel had intended it.

47 posted on 09/29/2003 5:49:34 PM PDT by kstewskis (148 more days until Lent and "The Passion" is released...and no I am NOT giving Mel up for Lent!)
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To: Lazamataz
And if any of them even once refers to Jesus as "The Lord Humungous, Ruler of the Wasteland, the Ayatolla of Rock and Rollah".... I am outta there.

So is Pontius Pilate going to be out there in his football pads ? Will Judas Iscariot be driving the gyrocopter ?

And where will the Roman soldier be with the steel boomerang ?

48 posted on 09/29/2003 5:55:41 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: Blue Scourge
Don't you love the irony of this and how their past actions make these comments seem so supercilious.
49 posted on 09/29/2003 6:09:50 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Centurion2000
Mel Gibson presents: SOUL WARRIOR.

Set in the future, Jesus comes back to a post-apocolypse Australia.

BLACK AND WHITE ACADEMY FORMAT
		
                   la.      THE WASTELAND.          DAY.

                             Flurries of dust and sand swirl around us as we move
                             through an eerie, barren land.  The only sound is the
                             howl of a rising wind.

                             Ahead something looms out of the storm.  As we approach
                             we see that it is the rusting remains of a massive oil pump, set in the form of a crucifix.

                             The wind  drops to be replaced by the voice of a very
                             old man.  This Is the Narrator:
	
                                                          NARRATOR v/o
                                             The vision dims and all that
                                             remains are mememories.
                                             They take me back - back to
                                             the place where the black
                                             pump sucked guzzolene from
                                             the earth...

                                                                                              DISSOLVE.
							
                    lb.      ANOTHER PART OF THE WASTELAND. DAY.

                             Out of the dust storm emerges the ancient  wreck of
                             a prime mover and fuel tanker.  It is partly
                             charred, its wheels and sides studded with metal
                             crossbow bolts.
				
                                                           NARRATOR v/o
                                             And I remember the terrible
                                             battle we fought - the day
                                             we left that place forever...
	
                                                                                               DISSOLVE.																
                      1c.      A  HILLTOP IN THE WASTELAND.      DAY.

                             A  warrior, dressed in leather and steel, stands on
                             a  hill crest. This is JESUS. Behind him is a strange
                             road vehicle: two engines and a seat mounted on a
                             chassis.

                                                           NARRATOR  v/o
		     But, most of all, I remember

                          the courage of a stranger, a
                          soul warrior called Jesus.

                          To understand who he was you
                          must go back to the last days
                          of the old world ...


                                                        FADE TO BLACK.



50 posted on 09/29/2003 6:15:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Centurion2000
 7.     THE MARAUDERS CATCH UP - HIGHWAY.    DAY.

                      A light flashes on Jesus's dashboard, an alarm whoops.

                      Jesus looks down at the fuel gauge: close to empty.
                      He curses and performs a miracle, creating a newly-filled
                      gas tank.

                      The black-on-black slows anyways...
                                                                        
                      The DOG whimpers, crawls off its chair and under Jesus's
                      seat.

                      Judas overhauls Jesus on the passenger side, He raises his
                      forearm, aiming his gauntlet-style crossbow at Jesus's
                      head.

                      Jesus barely has time to glimpse the road racer drawing
                      alongside the driver's door.

                      The passenger - a BERSERKER - wields a brutal,
                      gas-powered  'gun':  the heads of six metal arrows
                      protrude from a big barrel.  This weapon is the
                      "Porta-pak".

                      Jesus hits the brakes.

                      The road racer and the bike surge past the black car...
                      just as the porta-pak fires.

                      Two arrows thud into the black car, three go astray
                      and one hits Judas in the arm.

                      Jesus throws the black car in behind the road racer ...

                      Judas, fighting to control the bike, leaves the road...

                      Jesus changes down and hits the supercharger...

                      The black car leaps forward, ramming into the back of
                      the road racer, bullying it along.

                      Wheels and metal screaming, the two cars approach an
                      intersection littered with furniture and other debris.
                      A road rig lies abandoned on the roadside.

                      Jesus eases back for a moment then flattens the
                      accelerator...

                      The black car slams into the back of the road racer...
                      hurling it forward, just as the dune buggy regains the
                      highway...

51 posted on 09/29/2003 6:22:35 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Centurion2000
Y'know, this movie might actually work.
52 posted on 09/29/2003 6:23:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Publius6961
'This article wasn't too bad. But if the movie is in Aramaic with no subtitles I ain't seeing it.'

"Don't be such a baby!"

Hehe, though I wonder what version of Aramaic they will use? Perhaps even Syriac since the entire bible was translated into that language at a fairly early point in the history of the church.
53 posted on 09/29/2003 6:42:03 PM PDT by JohnSmithee
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To: Lazamataz
Casting doubting Thomas and his lines ...

Refinin it they are, ka chunga ka chunga junga ....

Not self service mind you, but a man with your sensibilities ?

other noted Thomas lines to Jesus ...
Oh Jesus, they got ya all wrong, you're not a coward.
Stupid maybe but not a coward.

.... Remember lingerie ???

54 posted on 09/29/2003 6:43:14 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: Lazamataz
Judas "the Woz" Iscariot .....

..... we need to send a script to Gibson.

55 posted on 09/29/2003 6:45:25 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: Publius6961
Why am I being a baby? I'm free to spend my money as I wish.
56 posted on 09/29/2003 7:09:00 PM PDT by jjm2111 (Arnol(D) should bow out for the good of the party.)
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To: Centurion2000
I think we have a real winner here:
50.   NO MANS LAND.    DAY.                                   

                    The vanguard of 5 chariots stops on the causeway,
                    just out of range.

                    Jesus and Judas look across no man's land, recognising
                    each other.  Judas grins, a gold tooth flashing.

                    The Leper, a comically dressed Roman perched on
                    the top of the Herod vehicle, waves his arms.  The
                    Romans cut their motors ... Silence.

                    The Leper announces:

                                        LEPER
                               Greetings from the Lord Herod
                               The King of the Wasteland!
                               The Ayatollah of Rock and Roller.

                    Camera cranes up to King Herod as he rises in his
                    seat. His voice is amplified by two loudspeakers
                    mounted to the roll cage of his vehicle:


                                     HEROD
                             I am told you wish to take
                             the gasolene out of the
                             wasteland...


                  The SECOND VICTIM lashed onto the Herod vehicle
                  shouts in defiance:


                                      DEFIANT VICTIM
                             Shoot!  Shoot him!  While you've
                             got the chance ...


                  The Leper takes the wind out of him with an elbow
                  to the stomach...

                  The Jewish kid watches from a rabbit warren near a burnt
                  out hut.

                  King Herod continues ...


                                      HEROD
                             You set out this morning to
                             find a vehicle.  A vehicle
                             strong enough to haul that
                             fat tank of gas ...


                  Suddently, the escaped rabbit runs from a hole in the
                  barricade and out into the wasteland.  Judas whirls his
                  arm around... thud!... the rabbit falls dead from a
                  crossbow bolt.

                  The Jewish Kid eases back down into his hole.

                  The Leper bellows:


                                      LEPER
                             You see!  There is no escape.
                             King Herod rules the
                             wasteland...


                                      DEFIANT VICTIM
                             Don't give them the gas!
                             Blow it up!


                  Judas leaps from his bike and head-butts the man into
                  unconsciousness.  The BROKEN VICTIM sobs uncontrollably.

                   The Jewish Boy runs from his hole, screaming.  He
                   lets fly with the chrome boomerang...

                   The projectile whistles past Judas's head and returns
                   to the KID.

                   He reaches up and - clunk! catches it in his steel
                   plated mitten.

                   The Romans roar with laughter.

                   The Jewish Kid throws the boomerang again ...

                   Judas ducks and it buries itself into the head of the
                   Mary Magdalane.

                   The Romans are dumbstruck.

57 posted on 09/29/2003 7:18:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Lazamataz
That is pretty good ....

51. Jesus' reprise.

Sitting in the battlements, manacled to the post by one arm. Jesus picks the lock on his manacles, straightens up and WHISTLES

Jesus

Two days ago I saw a truck that would haul that tanker.
You wanna get out of here ? You talk to me ... and I am the Way.

52. Negotiations over souls.

The camp leaders are gathered over a table with dim lighting. Jesus sits at the head of the table.
Jesus
Now to do the job, I need 5 gallons of diesel, a Torah scroll and some high octane gasoline.

Pilate's wife (a bitter distrustful Roman matron in toga)
And that's the last we'll ever see of him.

Jesus
Think of it as a downpayment.

Pontius Pilate
Seems reasonable enough.

Barabas
Well, he has to come back for his wheels.

Fade to ditch and ominous music

Jesus
Remember .... my chariot, and all the juice and scrolls and souls I can carry.


58 posted on 09/29/2003 7:46:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Then you missed a nun, Catholic, saying in no uncertian terms that anyone who so much as watched that movie was GOING TO HELL!!!!!

This was on the 6 o'clock news IIRC.
59 posted on 09/29/2003 7:57:48 PM PDT by Unassuaged
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To: Unassuaged
Then you missed a nun, Catholic, saying in no uncertian terms that anyone who so much as watched that movie was GOING TO HELL!!!!!

I didn't miss it. Her name was/is Sister Angelica and she did a show for EWTN that was some of the best comedy since Chuch Lady on SNL.

60 posted on 09/29/2003 8:06:39 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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