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Bush administration has no plans to block offshore outsourcing
COMPUTERWORLD ^ | SEPTEMBER 25, 2003 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 09/29/2003 8:05:12 AM PDT by 11th_VA

NEW YORK -- Although the Bush administration sees good and bad in the recent trend toward offshore outsourcing, it has no plans to block companies from moving IT jobs to India or other countries. Instead, it plans to focus on developing an economic climate that helps create jobs in the U.S., an administration official said yesterday.

"The answer to economic challenges is growth and innovation," said Chris Israel, a deputy assistant secretary at the U.S. Department of Commerce, speaking at an Information Technology Association of America (ITAA) panel on IT services outsourcing in New York. He cited the administration's support for increased investment in research and development, education and expanded trade authority for the president as part of its efforts to improve growth.

But Israel said he understands the ramifications of offshore outsourcing, such as downward pressure on salaries in the IT industry and the potential for a "reverse brain drain," where highly skilled and talented IT workers choose to work overseas instead of in the U.S. But he also noted that offshore development could have positive effects, such as driving prices down and productivity gains.

Although the Bush administration may be uncertain about the move to outsourcing and what it means for the IT industry, Phil Friedman, CEO of Computer Generated Solutions Inc., is not. Friedman, also a panelist at yesterday's event, said his New York-based company, a systems integrator and managed services provider, recently opened a technical services center with 300 jobs to fill.

The company got 3,000 applications in three days.

"That tells me the story," said Friedman, "We have plenty of talent. So we are not moving jobs [offshore] because we cannot find talent or we don't have the quality of talent in this country. But I'm wondering [if] in the rush to send jobs offshore, we, in some respects, are neglecting the moral responsibility we have with our employees.

"We need those technology skills. This country is making productivity gains only because of the technology we've been able to implement, and all of a sudden, we are abandoning those employees, and it's bothersome," said Friedman.

He said the offshore trend could also affect national defense. "One morning we will wake up 10 years from now and we will not have the skills needed to support the infrastructure of this country," said Friedman.

Countering that view was Gordon Coburn, senior vice president and chief financial officer at Cognizant Technology Solutions Corp., a Teaneck, N.J.-based offshore provider, who said the impetus behind IT offshore work parallels what has happened in manufacturing. Pointing to companies that tried to keep all their manufacturing in the U.S., "a lot of them don't exist anymore," he said.

Offshore work allows firms to remain competitive, said Coburn, freeing up money for R&D and marketing "to grow their business faster and therefore hire more people in the U.S."

"For a U.S. company to take the approach that 'No, I have to do it all here because I have to protect the jobs, in the end, it's going to cost more jobs here because they're not going to survive, because they won't be price-competitive," said Coburn. "On a long-term basis, I think that by our clients leveraging the offshore model, they are actually protecting American jobs."

Congress and the Bush administration could have an effect on offshore work in a number of ways: by using their power over regulated industries, such as financial services, to push companies to keep jobs in the U.S.; by passing legislation that sets "buy American" standards for federally purchased IT products; and by raising national security issues. The U.S. General Accounting Office is already examining some of those issues.

Israel said it's difficult to separate out the number of IT jobs lost because of outsourcing from those lost because of the industry downturn. He said there isn't "statistical data that shows one-to-one correlations."

Harris Miller, president of the Arlington, Va.-based ITAA, said that while the amount of offshore work remains relatively small given the size the industry, several analyst studies are predicting a sharp rise in offshore development. "The trends are getting a lot of attention," he said.

Priscilla Tate, director of the Technology Managers Forum, a group representing IT executives of large companies, argued that offshore development is taking a toll on U.S. workers. "Higher skilled jobs are going away," said Tate. "There are people who will not get jobs in the IT industry again -- they just have been replaced."


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To: per loin; JohnHuang2
In short, "Free Trade" is just another name for "Foreign Aid".

I nominate this as the "quote of the day". It perfectly describes the "net" result of our One-Way trade policies after all the B/S and superfluous platitudes are filtered out.

41 posted on 09/29/2003 11:23:34 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: 11th_VA
Bush administration has no plans to block offshore outsourcing

I'm sure he thought they meant "offshore drilling".

42 posted on 09/29/2003 11:26:10 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: 11th_VA
Immigration and outsourcing will be one of the primary issues for the '04 election. It is something that someone in the Bush Admin must address. Bunches of those folks working in the IT arena in 2000 that help elect you know who are now no longer employed ... it is an issue.
43 posted on 09/29/2003 11:26:57 PM PDT by zeaal
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To: Orangedog
Yeah, that's a good way to encourage kids to study math and science in college.

Went by the Science and Engineering School at my alma mater a couple of weeks ago (University of Southern California). Didn't hear a word of English spoken in the quad between classes.

In the meantime, American students are stampeding to get into the Law School.

44 posted on 09/29/2003 11:35:33 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: 11th_VA; A. Pole
Maybe if the word "trust" were replaced with the word "outsourcing":


45 posted on 09/29/2003 11:36:42 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: 11th_VA
But he also noted that offshore development could have positive effects, such as driving prices down and productivity gains.

Yeah, I'm sure we've all noticed how much cheaper everything has become since all this offshoring got started.

46 posted on 09/29/2003 11:37:10 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: 11th_VA
". . . This country is making productivity gains only because of the technology we've been able to implement, and all of a sudden, we are abandoning those employees, and it's bothersome," said Friedman.

And I'm sure he's losing a lot of sleep over it. Bothersome indeed. Very unseemly.

47 posted on 09/29/2003 11:39:25 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: Orangedog
Or be a TV evangelist.
48 posted on 09/29/2003 11:40:44 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Question_Assumptions
That the world will let us pay for those goods and services without actually producing anything in return will be the really amazing part of the whole process.

I'm sure they'll be delighted to do exactly that. Just like the Chinese will provide the U.S. military with all the JDAM guidance system assemblies we offshored to them this year.

49 posted on 09/29/2003 11:43:59 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: B Knotts
Hire them to do what????! Cut the grass at the corporate headquarters?

Do they cut grass in India?

50 posted on 09/29/2003 11:46:06 PM PDT by Pure Country
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To: Texas_Dawg
Does it really matter? Republicrats...Democruns....it is all the same now. Bush is a spender with no real reforms in taxation or regulation. The Democrats are spenders with no ideas about reform in taxation or regulation.
51 posted on 09/30/2003 3:28:30 AM PDT by cp124 (The Great Wall Mart)
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To: cp124
Does it really matter? Republicrats...Democruns....it is all the same now. Bush is a spender with no real reforms in taxation or regulation. The Democrats are spenders with no ideas about reform in taxation or regulation.

Some of us live in the real world (not Never Never Land where you reside) where the difference in a Democratic President and Republican President is the difference in more 9/11s or none. A group of so-called "conservatives" got mad at Bush, Sr. and voted Bill Clinton into office instead, and we got 9/11.

52 posted on 09/30/2003 4:16:21 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Paleos and Naderites: anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-Bush. And the difference in these 2 is what??)
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To: Texas_Dawg
So, with the pubbies we still lose our country and means of support, but at least we escape with our lives.
53 posted on 09/30/2003 4:37:37 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: 11th_VA
"Bush administration has no plans to block offshore outsourcing"

I.e., "Bush has no plans to get re-elected"

54 posted on 09/30/2003 5:01:35 AM PDT by waterstraat
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To: 11th_VA
The Bush administration sees good and bad in the recent trend toward offshore outsourcing,

Good - More campaign dollars

Bad - More jobs lost
55 posted on 09/30/2003 5:03:35 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (The next time I vote, I'm demanding a receipt! (you should too!))
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To: Ed_in_NJ
So, with the pubbies we still lose our country and means of support, but at least we escape with our lives.

Better than any alternative you've offered.

56 posted on 09/30/2003 5:16:42 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Paleos and Naderites: anti-war, anti-capitalism, anti-Bush. And the difference in these 2 is what??)
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To: 11th_VA
"The answer to economic challenges is growth and innovation," said Chris Israel, a deputy assistant secretary at the U.S. Department of Commerce, speaking at an Information Technology Association of America (ITAA) panel on IT services outsourcing in New York. He cited the administration's support for increased investment in research and development, education and expanded trade authority for the president as part of its efforts to improve growth.

I got excited when I read the first part of the paragraph, but the last part indicates that growth should result from government programs. I was worried about his job in the Bush administration until I finished the whole statement.

57 posted on 09/30/2003 5:31:01 AM PDT by Moonman62
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To: Orangedog
Yeah, that's a good way to encourage kids to study math and science in college.

The article indicates that the Bush administration wants to spend heavily on education. You mean that isn't the problem?

58 posted on 09/30/2003 5:32:58 AM PDT by Moonman62
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To: Euro-American Scum
Yeah, I'm sure we've all noticed how much cheaper everything has become since all this offshoring got started.

Prices are going up because the Bush administration is doing its best to devalue the dollar.

59 posted on 09/30/2003 5:35:32 AM PDT by Moonman62
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To: Moonman62
The article indicates that the Bush administration wants to spend heavily on education. You mean that isn't the problem?

The more money that is spent on education, the kids become less educated. Public "Education" spending is just a jobs program. The Americans that do go to college are not studying advanced math and science, mostly because the tech jobs are leaving the country. So instead they are studying law, sociology and business management.

60 posted on 09/30/2003 5:49:32 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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