[buzzyboop]

Sorry all you John Wayne (McLintock, McClintock, whatever) supporters.. If BustaMove wins this, it will be because of you folks. You will get what you deserve.

[McGavin999]

Miller is right on. Here we are just days away from the elections, McClintock is still at 15%, and his supporters are saying he still has a chance. A chance for what?

[FairOpinion]

ping

[b9]

After months of these threads, I see too
much intelligence to believe there won't be
a high standard of Republican pride come
election day.

Schwarzenegger is a good man, and will make
an effective governor, no matter what picture the DNC tries to paint.

[Kay Soze]

"Tom McClintock. Good man, but can’t win. And the sane people in California can’t afford to not win this time. McClintock can fall on his sword and enter the pantheon of selfless lore, or hang in there and become a pariah in the arid desert of post-nuclear Bustamanteville."

Too funny!

What I have noticed here though is the very people claiming Ahnold a RINO view 'W" as a "true conservative"!

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[Republic_of_Secession.]

I agree. Though I think that the numbers will likely move in favour of Swarzenegger simply because many of McClintock's supporters will not want to be responsible for cating a vote which essentially elects Bustamente. I think a lot of McClintock's supporters are going to end up making an agonizing choice at the ballot box.

[Republic_of_Secession.]

I agree. Though I think that the numbers will likely move in favour of Swarzenegger simply because many of McClintock's supporters will not want to be responsible for cating a vote which essentially elects Bustamente. I think a lot of McClintock's supporters are going to end up making an agonizing choice at the ballot box.

[Reagan Man]

>>>If BustaMove wins this, it will be because of you folks.

Totally disagree. If recall wins and then Bustamonte wins, it will be Arnie's fault, not McClintock's.

Arnie has had ample time and $14,000,000 to prepare a political campaign plan that would have appealed to the conservative Republicans of California. Arnie needed to prove he was a fiscal conservative, but to date that hasn't been achieved. Arnie hasn't convinced McClintock's supporters, those traditional conservatives and loyal Republicans, that he cares about their concerns on the issues of principle and conviction that matter to them.

While Arnie can't win merely by appealing to conservatives, he also can't win unless he does appeal to conservatives. The fault lies with Arnie.

[Rockitz]

As another poster indicated on another thread this morning, if the DNC's last ditch dirt bomb sticks to Arnold within a few days of the election, we may be glad Tom's still in the race. Place your bets- I'll guarantee there's a final shot fired at Arnold with significantly more sting than the Oui article or the allegations of marital infidelity have had.

[GreatOne]

Arnold gets my vote because he will be a huge benefit to Bush in 2004, assuming they campaign together (which I do). Arnold will draw a lot of his independent supporters to Bush, and will be able to raise a lot of money through huge fundraisers. Arnold's fame will be huge for people to look at the Republican party in California who otherwise might not.

If a primary were involved, I'd support McClintock. But there's not. Republicans need a victory in California badly, even in a liberal one; winning is all that should count now with the recent disasters for state-wide campaigns.

I think that Arnold will win in part due to the same thing that helped Jesse Venture win in Minnesota - the number of independents, unregistered, and first-time voters who'll vote for Arnold because of his movie career, and who are not counted anywhere by any pollsters. Ventura was in third place by pollsters going into the election because of this.

[nickcarraway]

Won't it be Schwarzenegger's fault? Every other person who runs for office is responsible for winning the votes necessary. Schwarzenegger is no better than President Bush or anyone else. We have elections not coronations. If Schwarzenegger wants to be governor, he should do what it take to win.

[Bonaparte]

"If BustaMove wins this, it will be because of you folks."

The question I can't seem to get an answer to: If McClintock withdrew (he won't, but if he did) and then an "October surprise" made Arnold electorally radioactive, who would then be "responsible" for "electing" Bustamante?

[Brian Allen]

[You are] << Sorry all you John Wayne (McLintock, McClintock, whatever) supporters .. If BustaMove wins this, it will be because of you folks. You will get what you deserve. >>

And those of US who are REPUBLICANS will suffer.

[For the short time it takes US to pack and leave the state in the state your Bustemantal-boosting insanity will have caused]

[wolficatZ]

The video is definitely a "keeper"

http://66.230.216.3/092603/views_miller_092603_300.wmv

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Bump!

[Godebert]

"Sorry all you John Wayne (McLintock, McClintock, whatever) supporters.. If BustaMove wins this, it will be because of you folks. You will get what you deserve."

The DNC putting Arnold in the Kalifornia recall race was brilliant. That little (r) before his name has made you and your ilk all giddy. No buzzyboop....if Arnold wins, YOU will get what you deserve.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's views in his own words:

Pro Gun Control

• "I'm for gun control. I'm a peace-loving guy." (Time magazine cover story, Aug 18, 2003) When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger admitted that he is for gun control. He said he supported both the Brady Bill and the ban on so-called "assault weapons." He said, "Also I would like to close the loophole of the gun shows." When asked by the Sacramento Bee to detail his positions on gun issues (scroll down), Arnold stated that he supports legislation to ban .50-caliber rifles, force gun buyers to pass a state-defined test in order to purchase a handgun, and require load indicators or magazine safety disconnects on new semiauto handguns.
• Pro Abortion
  Schwarzenegger appeared on FoxNews' "Bill O'Reilly" program in May 2001 and said he disagreed with President Bush's pro-life position. "I'm for choice," Schwarzenegger said on the program. "The women should have the choice. The women should decide what they want to do with their bodies. I'm all for that." When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger admitted again that he is "pro-choice".
• Pro Gay Agenda
  From Cosmopolitan magazine, "I have no sexual standards in my head that say this is good or this is bad. Homosexual-that only means to me that he enjoys sex with a man and I enjoy sex with a woman. It's all legitimate to me." He also supports gay adoption, despite the fact that both conservative Republicans and moderate Democrats voted by a 61 percent margin for Proposition 22, the Defense of Marriage Initiative, which defined marriage as that between a man and a woman. (Newsmax, 28 July 2003)
  When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger admitted that he is for legalized "domestic partnerships" which would give gay couples the same benefits as marriage.
• Pro Big Government Programs
  Regarding the passage of Proposition 49, a big government social scheme providing funds for after school programs: "Every California child deserves access to a proven, quality, life-changing afterschool program, and now they will have it. My hope is that, as goes California, so goes the rest of our nation." When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger said that he believes that social programs should be focused on children. He said, "I think the important thing, again, is that we work on education and really make sure that the kids have the first run at our treasury."
  In the same interview with Hannity, Schwarzenegger said that he supports big government programs to buy back leases as a measure to protect the environment. He said, "I think that our state government and our federal government should negotiate to buy back the leases [from the oil companies.]"
  
• Pro Environmentalist Agenda
  When a reporter asked him in early August to detail his positions on the environment, he said "I will fight for the environment. Nothing to worry about."
  When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger said he did not support offshore oil drilling. He said, "No, absolutely not. I think that we should stop the oil drilling and I think that our state government and our federal government should negotiate to buy back the leases [from the oil companies.]"
  
• Pro Clinton/Anti Impeachment
  In 1999, Schwarzenegger told George magazine of his bitterness about the frenzy over Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton and the waste of time and energy it represented. "That was another thing I will never forgive the Republican Party for," he said. "I was ashamed to call myself a Republican during that period."
  
• Soft on Illegal Immigration
  In a radio interview with KABC radio host Larry Elder on August 27th, Schwarzenegger said that allowing illegal immigrants to stay in the United States is "the right thing to do." Last year, while campaigning for his Prop. 49 after-school programs initiative, Schwarzenegger...declared in answer to a question from the audience: "I would never stand in the way of any child going to school, whether he or she is here legally or illegally, it does not matter." (Sacramento Bee, 24 August)

No buzzyboop....if Arnold wins, YOU will get what you deserve.

[Katya]

Most of us who call themselves Libertarians, regularly pull the lever based on the lesser of two evils....we tend to be a pragmatic folk. Yet, those on the idealistic right are unwilling to fight the real war. All or nothing strategies offer a 50% chance of nothing.
Here in Maryland we finally elected a Republican for Governor...yup, he had to run towards the middle. Some states are Never going to see the light of a true right winger again, because of the shift in demographics. However, you can influence rightward thinking incrementally.

But I'm not holding my breath...idealists are always full of indignations.

[dalebert]

Go Arnold!!!!

[The Wizard]

Dennis is the man......Go Arnold....

[aruanan]

Schmooze is in more hip pockets than a watch on a chain.

"Schooze is in more hip pockets than the Artful Dodger on a good day" would have been more apropos since watches on chains aren't kept in hip pockets and don't have anything to do with thievery.