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To: buzzyboop
Miller is right on. Here we are just days away from the elections, McClintock is still at 15%, and his supporters are saying he still has a chance. A chance for what?
2 posted on 09/27/2003 11:29:57 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
A chance to screw conservative/Republicans of course.
12 posted on 09/27/2003 11:59:00 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: McGavin999
Arnold's poll had McClintock at 17% so McClintock
higher than that and certainly well higher than
15%.

The real story is if Cruz wins it will be because
of conservatives who wasted their votes
on Arnold.
21 posted on 09/28/2003 12:48:55 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: McGavin999
"A chance for what?"

The only chance he has is to be the spoiler. He should think this through very closely. If, on Oct. 8th, Cruz Bustamante is the governor of California, Tom McClintock will replace Gray Davis as the most hated man in the state.

As he is rather unpopular already, that may not bother him very much. Hence, the problem.

38 posted on 09/28/2003 1:56:13 AM PDT by jocon307 (Moving to New Zealand soon (apologies to F. Zappa))
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To: McGavin999
A chance for the position of

Chief Egotist sacrificing the group for simple bullheaded vanity and blindness.
81 posted on 09/28/2003 7:54:32 AM PDT by Quix (DEFEAT her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de MarxNOW)
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To: McGavin999
>>>>>Miller is right on. Here we are just days away from the elections, McClintock is still at 15%, and his supporters are saying he still has a chance. A chance for what?

A chance at puttin Cruz into office.

85 posted on 09/28/2003 9:10:26 AM PDT by Kath (Lubya Dubya)
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To: McGavin999
It is like the Alan Keyes supporters...look, if they wouldn't give up on Keyes in the primaries when Keyes was pulling one and two percent, they won't give up on McClintock when he's getting 15%.

Perhaps they think the 15% is the only group that really counts, but I suspect not. I suspect it's simply a "religious" thought process brought into the messy world of politics (not in the sense of any particular religion or belief system, but in the sense that they approach political matters with the same thought process they approach religious matters with). In a religious thought process, there is great glory and even greater victory (in a different realm) from going down to defeat, even unto death, with your "principles" 100% intact -- with absolutely no compromise whatsoever. Taking religious thought processes into politics means that you do not compromise one iota and if it so happens you go down in total flames, hopefully you can take everything down with you like Samson or like the Christians martyred in the Coliseum. Using that sort of thinking, there is virtue in the glorious defeat.

I think that is what we are seeing here, and it is pretty common the further out on the political bell curve you travel (Camejo and his supporters are no less "religious" in their thinking). The bible, for just one example, is chock full of encouragements for forgo compromise -- "if you are lukewarm, I will spit you out".

For me, I don't believe "religious thinking" works well in modern democratic politics, where security, caution and the middle road dominate the selection of governmental leaders. The one who seems most secure, the one who will not change things too drastically, will most often be the one selected by the mass of voters. There is security in sameness, so if you are running "to change" things, to get the votes you need you will need to convince people that yes, you will change this or that, but you won't change everything, you won't be drastic in your prescriptions for change. People don't like to have to deal with new realities, they are comfortable operating in the familiar.

And anyway, most of the McClintock voters who will change will do so without any proding from McClintock himself. Those that are in tune to the election and who think more politically than religiously will move over on their own. As for those who think more religiously, there is nothing in heaven or hell that would make them change anyway.

87 posted on 09/28/2003 9:16:16 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: McGavin999
A chance for what?

They have chance to feel good, really good, about themselves. There are standing up for their "principles." It used to be that ultra conservatives were for "doing good." The modern, New Age, Ultra Conservatives are all about "feeling good." They are the 21st century Hippies.

184 posted on 09/28/2003 7:37:58 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Anyone who accepts the LA Times as the truth has no business calling anyone a RINO.)
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