The President’s Re-election Prospects Have Nearly Disappeared

Varied Internet sources, via Google ^ | 9/25/03 | Coop

[Coop]

Why?

-We’re engaged in a long-term war against an enigmatic enemy, with no end in sight

-American military members are suffering and dying at the hands of terrorists on foreign soil

-The media makes a concerted effort to only portray the President in a negative light

-The President’s job approval numbers are well under 60%, with just over a year left until the election

-The President scores well under 50% on polls asking if he should be re-elected

-The economy is struggling to emerge from a recent recession

-Defense spending is way up

-Budget deficits are a serious concern

-National unemployment is over 6%

-The Democrats have assembled a formidable, diverse group of contenders that criticize the President constantly, including one quote: "If [our soldiers] were sent there to fight, they are too few. If they were sent there to die, they are too many."

[Coop]

GWB spends his time slapping the base

Yeah, the same group of you keep chirping this over and over, and then I see polls showing Dubya with support from Pubbies and/or conservatives in the high 80s. [yawn]

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

George Bush is not Ronald Reagan

Thanks for clearing that up...

[TopQuark]

Why hold him to a higher standard than a professional newspaper columnist or editorial board? Sorry, the journalists do typically provide some named sources. They also attempt at some form of integration (as opposed to compilation), and finding and stating the point.

How often do you see footnotes in the op ed pieces of the WSJ? As you can see, that's not what I asked.

Heck, some of these facts he cites are so widely known that you probably wouldn't have to footnote them in an academic paper... You would.

In fact, I was only 12 in 1983 and I remembered all but one of them first-hand. I did not, althought I am older. In fact, I make an effort to excise trivia from my mind.

While I agree with the general point of your remarks, I still think that stating the point of a piece of writing, even in private, is a rather mild and minimal requirement.

Thanks for explaining to me the point of the thread.

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

many people here on FR state they'd not vote for Bush.

Like many Freepers I am considering voting for the candidate who will take the most votes away from Bush, thereby electing a liberal demoncRAT.

As conservatives this is what we must do... help elect liberals.

[jmaroneps37]

To anybody who says W will not kick huge ash next year, I say: 1) If the economy is so bad, why have the rats stopped crying about it? Answer its not that bad, the unemployment number will lose it's power because the a larger number of unemployed than ever before, are openng their own small businesses. Its called the kitchen table business index.
2) Why is lil wessie so "popular"? Because he represents security. W wins hands down on security. This country simply will not hand responsibility for our very survival to a rat. Period case closed. None of them can make a dent here.
3) By May 1, 2004 when we reach the one year anniversary of the end of fighting in Iraq, and I do mean the end of fighting, the one year report will be so filled with great, not good but; great news that not only will it put all of this horse shiite from the rats to rest but; it will severely and permenently damage the lemming's willingness to believe the rat media. When the lemmings get a chance to peek under the rug and see how much they have been lied to by the rat media, it will be very hard to get them to swallow their lies about the rat candidate and lies about W.
4) The crazies in the rat party are down a bit now but; they will be back. how-odd? dean has not lost a single supporter because he is the champion of the hate America, hate Bush movement. lil wessie is in the race because the clinocchios told him to get in to split the non crazy rat primary vote. This will give them what they want: how-odd wins the nod and loses 46 states, then the beast comes in to "save us all" in '08.
5) Money money money. You will see stories from now on about rat plans to spend zillions to beat W win back the Senate and win back the House. Ha ha ha ha ha, when the dust clears after next Nov. the rats will be saying the same things that they have been saying for ten years " we need to do a better job of getting our message out and; "I pledge to you that the fight for Congress 2006 starts here and now!!!" Lots of crying and cheering rats will then leave their counting rooms and go home, tails between their legs.

[TopQuark]

And the point of the post is...

[Arrowhead1952]

Taht all depends on which poll you look at for numbers. Here is one that was posted today:

Posted by NYC Republican
On 09/25/2003 7:24 AM PDT

Bush 48% Dean 35%

Bush 52% Lieberman 35%

Bush 45% Clark 38%

Every pollster asks different questions and the people answering may may not express their actual intent.

[NEWwoman]

Does anyone recall how the President did in his 1984 re-election bid?

I recall President Reagan won in a landslide - 49 out of 50 states.

BTW, if Bush is really doing that badly, you can bet Hillary would be overtly in the race.

[johnny7]

No president has been defeated with a job approval above 50%.

It's early yet. The American electorate is dumber than its ever been. It took years before the Democrats and media turned sour on Vietnam. In Iraq they were against it from day one. Kennedy verbally spits on Bush and hardly anyone complains that it's baseless and reeks of sedition. While President Bush is totally deserving of re-election and will get the thinking mans vote in 2004, that alone does not mean he will win.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Ooops, I guess I misread.

[petercooper]

Exactly! W's approval rating is at what 50%? What % of the U.S. is made up of dopes and morons? 50%? There really should be restrictions on who should be able to vote. Maybe people who have paid taxes in the last 5 years... or people with an IQ above 12... or people who can answer 10 easy history questions...

[Coop]

Thanks for explaining to me the point of the thread.

I'm still very sorry that you've been struggling, but I'm glad someone was able to assist you. The point of the thread was quite clear to most, fortunately. I had no intention of unambiguously stating it anywhere, much less early on. To put it up front, as you requested, would really have been rather silly. Kinda like putting the last chapter of your mystery novel up front, to appease the critic who doesn't feel like reading (which may also involve some thinking) the whole thing.

Tell you what. You admit that your real problem with this thread is that I ruined your "dance on Dubya's political grave" and I'll make an effort to run any future draft threads by you for approval. Deal?

[Coop]

Approval ratings often do not equate to votes on Election Day.

[Orbiting_Rosie's_Head]

I see polls showing Dubya with support from Pubbies and/or conservatives in the high 80s

Sources? Even if it's true, he'll need more than that to win. He should be more concerned with having 95% support among the base than he is with winning the Mexican vote.

[roses of sharon]

Yes, I have noticed the "True American Conservative Patriots" on FR are so principled they are supporting:

Kyoto
International Criminal Court
World Bank
Higher taxes
abortion without parental consent
gay civil rights
The "New Amercian Patriotism, the UN"

[dalebert]

Just what pubbie president had to deal with world war III and a Democrat party that would rather see the country go down in flames than support the USA? Dems are fighting hard to make us reach 3rd world nation status.

[KC_for_Freedom]

This will give them what they want: how-odd wins the nod and loses 46 states, then the beast comes in to "save us all" in '08.

You (jmaroneps) have decoded it. Coop, you see the scene in the sunshine, but not in the shadows. In the shadows, the party dumped all the anti bush media recently to see how far they could move Bush's numbers. If they had moved them enough, the beast would have jumped into the race. (I guess its still up in the air, to see how vulnerable Bush is to this doom and gloom reporting.)

But the election is a year away, a year of a growing economy will reach the level where all economists say that the Bush program is working. (And people will be going back to work.) The war will be in a different place, with troops having homecomings, Iraq on the way to a constitution, and some closure on the missing chemical weapons.(They will be found and displayed on TV, even CNN will have to cover it.)

"Some may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one." The Bush team is smart enough to pull this off, and the American public is still worried about terrorists, they are going to be able to strike again, and people trust Bush more than an unnamed democratic candidate.

[TopQuark]

I don't hold discussions with immature children and paranoid adults, and you belong to one of these categories.

Have a good day.

[Orbiting_Rosie's_Head]

As conservatives this is what we must do... help elect liberals

I helped elect GWB and a Republican congress and what do I get for my troubles? Ted Kennedy as the author of the education bill, huge government bloat in every department, little old white WWII veterans being shaken down at the airport, increases in left-wing control of federally-funded universities, PC talk of "Islam is a Religion of Peace", pandering to Illegals, insulting dictates from Vincente Fox, pandering to CAIR. The list goes on and on.

Has GWB done anything right? You bet. income Tax reductions, Taliban ass-kicking, the war in Iraq. I'm just asking that my principles be acknowledged and that my vote should not be taken for granted by anyone just because they have an (R) by their name.

[Constitutional Patriot]

Hmmmm...Amazing how all this transpired over the past couple weeks....

I am sure that W's numbers are down a bit from the time he swept Saddam away, but I am also sure that a lot of these negative polls are the work of the left wing machine.

The left is desperate and it is becoming more obvious with every passing day.