Posted on 09/24/2003 8:21:32 AM PDT by xzins
In January of this year, 2003, a bill was introduced both in the U.S. Senate and the House of Representatives which would re-institute the military draft. This bill would not only allow the government to draft our sons however (as bad as that is itself), but it would also allow the government to draft our daughters into the military for two years. Recently, I was listening to a Christian radio talk show discussing this bill. The question laid out to the Christian men was - what do you think about the government wanting to draft your daughters into the military for two years? I was appalled and amazed by the responses I heard. All of the callers except one thought it would be just fine for the government to take their daughters for two years. A few of the common responses given for such thinking were - “We live in different times now” and “The women wanted this equality, so it’s only fair” and “With all the government does for us, we should be willing to let them (our daughters) give two years of their life for them.” As I listened to caller after caller, Christian man after Christian man, declare how willing they were to give up their daughters to the government for two years, I realized how far gone we are as a nation. When Christian men can speak this way about their daughters they have lost a godly affection for their daughters. When you hear this kind of perverse talk, American men have forgotten their God-given function as fathers. What has made American men this way? Why do they no longer have a godly affection for their daughters? Why don’t they know how to function as fathers? There are two main causes. Number One: American men no longer have a godly affection for their daughters and have forgotten their roles as father because the way that Americans raise their children causes an unnatural separation between parent and child. This is seen from an early age. Many men have their wives return to work after their maternal leave time expires after giving birth to their child. So the child is taken away from the parents and goes to daycare. When the child turns four or five, they are off to the government school. Again, the child is separated from the parents, and this continues to adulthood. Most men send their children away from them at church too. They don’t act as priests in their homes and instruct their children in the faith, rather they dump them off on the church with it’s host of kiddy programs to supposedly do the job. This bill would allow the government to draft our daughters into the military for two years. When the child gets older, most men allow their daughters to date. They send them away with a young man alone, rather than establishing some form of godly courtship, hence denying their role as protector. Finally, most men want their daughters out of the house once they turn eighteen. Most do so by sending their daughters away to the university. This is how most American men raise their children and rule their homes. This is how most Christian men raise their children and rule their homes. My point is that this causes an unnatural separation between parent and child. Because of the separation which has been occurring since a young age and throughout the child’s life, it is easy for a man to say - “With all the government does for us, of course I’m willing to let them have my daughter for two years.” It’s easy because he’s already been separated from her all his life! Number Two: American men no longer have a godly affection for their daughters and have forgotten their roles as father because the State has become father. Men are to be providers, protectors, and priests to their homes. Most men no longer know or exercise these roles as father because the State has assumed the role of father. Herbert Schlossberg, in his book Idols for Destruction, best defines my assertion here. Schlossberg states: Rulers have ever been tempted to play the role of father to their people. The father is the symbol not only of authority but also of provision. “Our Father who art in heaven...Give us this day our daily bread” (Mt.6:9,11). Looking to the State for sustenance is a cultic act [an act of worship]; we learn to expect food from parents, and when we regard the State as the source of physical provision we render to it the obeisance of idolatry. The crowds who had fed on the multiplied loaves and fishes were ready to receive Christ as their ruler, not because of who He was but because of the provision. John Howard Yoder has rightly interpreted that scene: “The distribution of the bread moved the crowd to acclaim Jesus as the new Moses, the provider, the Welfare King whom they had been waiting for.” This statement by Schlossberg encapsulates what I mean when I say the State has become father. Men no longer know what it means to be men or fathers anymore because the State has become father. They’re still dependent little boys who’ve never grown up. All is taken care of for them. They’ve never learned what responsibility means because the State takes care of every desire, whim and need. Men have a duty as fathers to be providers, protectors, and priests to their homes, The draft is the ultimate expression and evidence that the State has assumed the role of father. and the State wants to take that out of men’s hands and assume the roles of father. Schlossberg goes on to state: The tyrant Diocletian, Emperor of Rome, in 301 A.D., declared the State to be “the watchful parents of the whole human race.” The State wanting to take our daughters away and draft them into the military is the ultimate expression and evidence that the State believes it is father, and has assumed the role of father. When Christian men allow the State to get away with this, they have abrogated their God-given duty and roles as fathers.
The paternal State not only feeds its children, but nurtures, educates, comforts, and disciplines them, providing all they need for their security. Once we sink to that level, as C.S. Lewis says, there is no point in telling state officials to mind their own business. “Our lives are their business.” The paternalism of the State is that of a bad parent who wants his children dependent on him forever. That is an evil impulse. The good parent prepares his children for independence, trains them to make responsible decisions, knows that he harms them by not helping them to break loose. The paternal State thrives on dependency. When the dependents free themselves, it loses power. It is, therefore, parasitic on the very persons whom it turns into parasites. Thus, the State and its dependents march symbiotically to destruction.
If the nation needs my sons service; I expect them to step up; but, when the day comes that they begin to draft my daughters - I will question the soil I live on and those who run our government.
Not my or anyone elses daughter...fighting wars has always been and will always be the primary responsibility of men.
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I haven't read all of the replies, so I don't know if this has been said ...
The key words seem to be (IMHO) "man" and "godly".
Male does not necesarily mean man and without a Godly perspective, it's impossible to be a man as God would have us to be.
I know there are guys that are 6'4", 280 and all that, but that doesn't make a man.
I believe ... based on scripture ... that women are to be modest in dress and that our society is doing everything to strip our women and sluttify them. Even "Christian" "men" allow their wives and daughters to dress in a provocative manner.
I think the first influence is generally the first input, and that would be through the 'eye-gate'/
So, men 'see' all around them, women that do not match up to a modest picture.
If the picture is not modest ... then they, the women, must also not be modest.
If the women are'nt modest, then they must be more than an ideal 'feminine' and that allows a 'man' to allow his daughter to be in the military instead of demanding she become a wife and mother, perpetrating a "Christian" oicture for others ... male and female ... to emulate.
Presumably he'd do the same as I would, tell the draft board to go to hell and ask where me and my son-in-laws can go to get our M16 re-issued.
You know there'd be mass-shit flying IF a draft starts..poeple will be in the streets, and you know the first thing they'll say is that the twins should go also..
Ignoring the fact that God's law is not enforceable by the civil authorities of these United States, under what principle or scripture do you dispute my reference to Ezekiel? Do you think God gives women a moral "get out of jail free" card? If you'd like to dispute my hermeneutics, you'll have to do better than throwing a tantrum.
One thing I can assure you of...since my sign-up date, you are the first to ever impugn my language skills, so you'll forgive me if chalk that criticism up to more puffery on your part.
Cry me a river...
Even the director of the Selective Service has acknowledged that women will most likely need to be drafted in the medical area, as there simply are not enough male medical workers should a dire situation (like weapons of mass destruction being unleashed) to undertake the challenge.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/11/12/184604.shtml
"A health-care draft is not a new concept to the U.S. military, said SSS Director of Public and Congressional Affairs Lew Brodsky.
"There used to be a doctors' draft in this country from 1950 to 1973, but it was limited to a handful of doctors only and specific kinds of doctors before you had the kind of specialties that we have today," said Brodsky.
The issue of a health-care draft was also raised and discussed by members of Congress in the late 1980s. Brodsky said the Senate Armed Services Committee was concerned about the possibility of a military conflict that involved weapons of mass destruction and incurred heavy casualties.
Brodsky said Congress argued that in a modern war the "military medical capability might not be sufficient to handle that crisis. It might be understaffed and might need more people quickly.
"Looking at the numbers of medical personnel required, the time frames and the kinds of skills required – it would have to include women," said Brodsky.
Ditto other professions and areas of expertise. No one wants the dire circumstances that would activate a draft to occur, however, if they did, we would be unwise to no use ALL the talent available to both stop our enemies and survive on the homefront. Lots of people would pitch in and help, no doubt, but a draft would organize people much faster to enabling us to deal more effectively with emergencies on a larger scale.
No matter what, she gets the house, all property, the children.
And even before the trial she automatically gets a restraining order.
If I was a young man I would only go to prostitutes.
They can only screw you one time.
I don't wonder at it! I just consider that putting women into close contact with men in military service (as is done now by the volunteer army) isn't good for either the men, the women, and most important, the military mission. If women are in the military, either drafted or voluntarily, they should have separate training and living quarters, like they used to. Also, if women want to be just like men, then logically they should be drafted if men are. One of the problems that you are alluding to is that women on the one hand want to be treated just like men (or better, practically like getting "reparations" or something!) but on the other hand sue for "reckless eyeballing", have special treatment legally, etc. It's a schizophrenic situation because WOMEN AND MEN REALLY ARE DIFFERENT! And have different things they are good at. Such as: men make rotten mothers and baby caretakers! The whole situation is so FUBAR I don't know what can help it.
The only solution I can think of about feminists is to shove their brand of equality (or lack there of) right back down their throats until they choke on it. That is why I say draft the feminists and only the feminists. But not all women.
Your scam is singularly unconvincing.
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