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MECHA and LULAC
foxnews ^ | foxnews-Hannity and Colmes

Posted on 09/17/2003 12:48:11 PM PDT by pulaskibush

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

This is a partial transcript from Hannity & Colmes, September, 12 2003 that has been edited for clarity.

SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: California gubernatorial candidate Cruz Bustamante's past affiliation with a controversial group, MECHA (search), is drawing a lot of attention from his political opponents. Will his past involvement with this group destroy his chances at becoming governor?


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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: apologist; bustamente; english; foxnews; hannity; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; interview; kkk; lulac; mecha; racist
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My Comments:

Based on Brent's statements, we can therefore assume that any racist group that does carwashes and charities is no longer a racist group.

"you're getting your information from some very dubious sources and that's not their slogan. And that's not what their core mission is. "-Wilkes

If that is not their slogan and mission, what is? Why was it on their website before it was pulled. Did Hannity make it up?

Wilkes claims that US English, a group Arnold is a part of is a racist/anti-hispanic/anti-immigrant organization. Their chairman says otherwise and he's pretty convincing; he's a hispanic immigrant. Here's the link that Wilkes should have looked up: http://www.us-english.org/inc/about/chairman.asp

LULAC is suppossed to be a non-partisan organization. Most of its members are just hispanics who are going through school or want connections for jobs. Most are probably not into politics at all. It's leadership however, has become a puppet for the illegal immigrant agenda. LULAC's national statements include: Respect your Citizenship and preserve it, proud of your origin, Believe in God, love Humanity, and Always be honorable etc. Wlikes does not immulate any of this by supporting illegal immigration on all issues, making excuses for a racist group, and lying about it's goals.

The most important thing to remember: There are a lot of hispanics and other immigrants that are against illegal immigration. About 1/4 or so hispanics supported Prop 187. If the issue were publicly debated, that number would rise. Unfortunately, a debate forum for both sides to meet does not exist.

Feel free to make your own comments

1 posted on 09/17/2003 12:48:14 PM PDT by pulaskibush
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To: pulaskibush; 1tin_soldier; a-whole-nother-box-of-pandoras; Ahban; Arkansawyer; Arkinsaw; ...
Didn't see this posted
2 posted on 09/17/2003 12:49:35 PM PDT by pulaskibush
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To: pulaskibush
read later - INTSUM
3 posted on 09/17/2003 12:52:07 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: pulaskibush; gubamyster; DoctorZIn
another ping
4 posted on 09/17/2003 12:53:13 PM PDT by pulaskibush
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To: pulaskibush
I have a number of reference links here:

-Bustamante Busted? MEChA ties, and more.--

"Fundraisers like the Salvation Army" is a cunning spin, but these outfits are far more sinister and racist.

5 posted on 09/17/2003 12:54:24 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: pulaskibush; dennisw
The use of modifiers indicate the deception.

And that's not what their core mission is

Hannity should have asked, what are there other missions?

They focus on helping Hispanic students make it through college.

What are there other focuses?

And they really are an organization that helps promote pride in Hispanic culture and Hispanic history.

Acutally some kind of identity-confused secular American middle-class version of Mexican history. Regardless, why say "really"?

Over and over I've seen posts claiming their educational purposes. (So what, Hitler was pro-education too, for his perceived breed). Has anyone from Mecha ever declaimed the "For the Race everything..." slogan? I haven't seen it. Just diversions. A logical conclusion is they believe in it, still and for the future.

6 posted on 09/17/2003 1:06:10 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: pulaskibush
Personal Anecdote: As a clueless college student, I was friends with a young hispanic lady, and there was some mutual attraction for something more. Being good friends at the time, we decided to discuss it, get it out of the way.

Here's a paraphrasing of the conversation:

Her: "I really like you a lot, but you're an Anglo."

Me: "What?"

Her: "Anglo. Y'know, white."

Me: "Uhhh... Very astute. So?"

Her: "It wouldn't be right, we're not supposed to be together."

Me: "Why?"

Her: A Long and Rambling list of "reasons" that never made any real sense.

Me: Her racist attitude kinda killed my attraction for her.

I remember at one point asking her about MECHA, and she never truthfully explained what they were. As we were both engineering students, it occurred to me that they were an engineering society for hispanic students. Obviously, this was not the case...

This was circa 1989.
7 posted on 09/17/2003 1:12:50 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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ping
8 posted on 09/17/2003 1:50:22 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Shermy
Good catch on the use of modifiers. A common rhetorical device
9 posted on 09/17/2003 2:00:16 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: pulaskibush
Inherent hypocrisy in Wilke's statement:

It's OK for an admittedly racist organization like MEChA to exist, because their racism is...what? Stated, but not overtly practiced?

But it's Not OK for U.S. English to exist, even though they don't overtly or covertly espouse any thing to do with race, they merely assert that a single nation should have a single language.

Gee, must be hard walking around with that sort of internal contradiction. Probably make ya kinda neurotic. Almost like a guy with a last name of "Wilkes" fronting for a Hispano-Supremacist group. Must be Anglo-Saxon Speak for "Quisling"....

10 posted on 09/17/2003 2:14:44 PM PDT by Regulator (Cruz is a MexiNazi)
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Must be Anglo-Saxon Speak for "Quisling"....

That's precisely what slimy, self-loathing liberal dweeb Brent Wilkes is. A quisling. Probably a happy punk, too.

11 posted on 09/17/2003 2:29:17 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: pulaskibush
Didn't Bustamonte SWEAR AN OATH to uphold our government and not TO SUPPORT THE VIOLENT OVERTHROW OF CALIFORNIA?

Can a civic-minded Californian make a citizen's arrest to that effect?
12 posted on 09/17/2003 3:06:47 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Regulator
Almost like a guy with a last name of "Wilkes" fronting for a Hispano-Supremacist group. Must be Anglo-Saxon Speak for "Quisling"....

I bet Wilkes claims to be "Hispanic" just like that Martin Scheen, Bill Richardson, or V. Fox. They are nothing more than self-hating liberal, leftist of European origins. This whole idea of a hispanic race is just a scam and alot mis-informed people are falling it.

13 posted on 09/17/2003 3:10:45 PM PDT by Missouri (F-15's Made in Missouri)
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To: pulaskibush
If that is not their slogan and mission, what is? Why was it on their website before it was pulled.

The fact that they recently pulled that website reveals a lot in itself. MEChA was never a social club ---- they had plenty of those I'm sure. Plus Bustamante could have joined the Cesar Chavez grape and lettuce striking groups, the UFW union which was leftist but not promoting the over-throw of the USA government and not a racist hate group. Bustamante chose the radical racist group ---- just like a David Duke did. Only Bustamante doesn't want to be held accountable.

14 posted on 09/17/2003 3:41:17 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: pulaskibush
And I think anybody who's looked at his record has seen that he's very much the opposite of a racist. He's somebody who's been outgoing to all communities and very supportive of all races.

Hannity should have then asked why Bustamante so easily used the "n" word ---- and what anti-white words has he been known to use? The "g" word?

15 posted on 09/17/2003 3:43:42 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: pulaskibush
COLMES: Arnold has acknowledged he smoked dope, he had group sex, according to the "Oui" magazine article.

I do believe that having group sex is perfectly legal, but I guess Colmes mentioned it in order to try to make Arnold look bad in some people's eyes. Maybe Colmes is just jealous of Arnold because Colmes has never had group sex.

16 posted on 09/17/2003 4:51:51 PM PDT by usadave
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To: Missouri
I bet Wilkes claims to be "Hispanic"

Maybe his mom's mom came from Spain. Hell, even people in the English Court have Spanish bloodlines. The notion that it makes you some kind of "oppressed minority" is ludicrous. Were the Conquistadors an "oppressed minority"? Methinks they were the ones doing the "oppressing".

I always thought Spaniards were proud of their history. It's a bit pathetic to see them wrapping themselves in sackcloth and declaring themselves the poor victims of the gringos. Maybe not a "bit" pathetic. More like seriously pathetic, even contemptable.

17 posted on 09/17/2003 5:20:08 PM PDT by Regulator (Cruz is a MexiNazi)
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To: Regulator
The notion that it makes you some kind of "oppressed minority" is ludicrous.

You are exactly right. These people have no shame.

18 posted on 09/17/2003 5:39:25 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: gubamyster
Once more Shawn beams the light of truth and Allen Dumbs "just wants to get along," show his "tolerance," and "compassion!"

Alled Dumbs and Greta van Stupid need to go join their "fellow-travelers" on CNN.
19 posted on 09/17/2003 6:32:26 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: pulaskibush
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20 posted on 09/17/2003 11:10:30 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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