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MUSLIM APOCALYPTIC WRITERS INDICATE FUTURE STRIKES ON NEW YORK AND VATICAN
http://www.spiritdaily.com/muslimapocalyptic.htm ^ | 9/17/03 | spiritdaily.com

Posted on 09/17/2003 10:49:25 AM PDT by Polycarp

MUSLIM APOCALYPTIC WRITERS INDICATE FUTURE STRIKES ON NEW YORK AND VATICAN

Muslim apocalyptic writers indicate that the long-term targets of terrorism will continue to be Washington and New York -- along with the Vatican.

This is apparent from recent Islamic literature that focuses on what many Muslims believe is a coming anti-christ-like figure called the Dajjal, who will supposedly spring up from the U.S. and "Greater Israel," defined by many Muslims as worldwide Jewish influence propelled by the United States. They see endless mishaps for America and its largest city, from nuclear war to natural calamities by which -- in the words of one of the writers, Muhammad `Isa Da'ud -- "the sea will swallow up New York."

"There can be no doubt of the profound hostility entertained by Muslim apocalyptic writers towards the United States, and their intense desire to humiliate it and see it destroyed forever," notes David Cook of the University of Chicago.

In chilling references that predate September 11, Muslim philosophers -- including at least one said to have influenced Bin Laden -- have used terms like "partial strike" and link it to the war over Kuwait as well as the immorality they saw as flourishing in the West, especially under the Clinton Administration. In a bizarre rendering of symbols, Muslim apocalypticists have cited Jeremiah 50:2 and 51:44, where the figure of "Bel" (a Babylonian god) is "punished in Babylon." They connect "Bel" to "Bill" Clinton.

But it isn't just Bill Clinton; the venom is spread wide and far. According to one scenario set forth by Muslim apocalypticist Bashir Muhammad 'Abdallah, the first battle of the End Times was the Kuwait War of 1991, which he refers to as the Third World War as he links America to "the Masons and other secret Jewish organizations."

In Muslim apocalyptic literature, America is associated with "Ad," a city whose destruction is detailed in the Koran. Ad was an advanced civilization, according to Cook, who has studied the Muslim apocalyptic interpretations and quotes Abdallah as seeing Ad as a civilization that "could predict weather and possessed other advanced technology.

"They had advanced weaponry and organized sports and cultural events," Cook writes, summarizing the Muslim beliefs regarding the evil power they had to overthrow. "These, however, were merely for pleasure, not for the purpose of glorifying God. Their buildings were skyscrapers [speaking of their capital, Iram dhat al-`Imad], just as in New York."

Therefore, says Abdallah, "America deserves now, according to the sunna of God regarding the punishment of nations, a partial strike like that which caught Ad." In the matter of earthquakes or khasfs, says Cook, the Muslim apocalyptic writers believe America will be targeted "and specifically New York City, which is called the 'great Babylon.'"

But if such literature is predictive of where terrorists -- believing they are doing God's bidding -- may also strike, other cities may bear similar concerns. In future apocalyptic scenarios the writers see missiles destroying a total of "five American cities," says Cook.

Time and again, reference is made to the war with Iraq over Kuwait -- which ironically now figures so prominently into the current presidency of former President Bush's son. New York is focused upon by Muslim fanatics because "there are more Jews than in other places, and in it is their wealth, their banks, their political foundations which control the entire world, so there is no evil greater than in New York in any other place on the inhabited earth, and for this reason their portion of the punishment will be greater in measure and it will be a total uprooting," notes Cook in his splendid scholarship.

The destruction of New York and the U.S. by everything from war to earthquakes is accompanied by ominous Islamic prophetic interpretations that have the U.S. defeated in Jerusalem.

"After this," notes Cook, "the victorious Muslims will conquer Europe and destroy the 'idolatrous church in the Vatican.'

"This will lead to the brief reign of the Mahdi, which will be ended by the physical appearance of the Dajjal himself, who will gather another huge army to fight the Battle of Armageddon."

The "Mahdi" is a messianic figure whom some radicals now associate with Osama Bin Laden. According to Muslim writers, the Mahdi will proclaim himself in Mecca and move against Jordan, which will be ruled by a Jew.

"Then America will live through the worst disaster in its history," writes Muhammad 'Isa Da'ud. "This disaster will be the destruction of New York by a terrible flood after a terrifying series of explosions nearby makes the surrounding waters swallow it up as if it is an ant inside a terrifying star of heat and water."

In the perspective of these Muslim writers, "Florida also suffers nuclear explosions of unknown origin and this triggers even more explosions as the American nuclear arsenal in the area detonates."

After the disabling of the U.S., much of Europe will convert to Islam, in the view of modern Muslim prophetic writers, but there will be one stumbling block. "This ideal state of affairs is wrecked by the Vatican, since groups of saboteurs under Roman Catholic control are caught, and brought before the Mahdi," says Cook. "They confess who sent them to him personally and to representatives of the foreign countries. Then the Mahdi proclaims that his armies are moving to the Vatican and going to attack Rome."

It is a sobering warning on both short-term and long-term radical Muslim intentions. Let us make clear that this is not a view held by the majority of those who adhere to Islam. But it is prevalent in large circles that have spawned groups like Hamas and al-Qaeda. "Washington, the city of the American White House, where the policies of Satan are made, and the cursed Congress, whose decisions are led by the devil, and approved by the anti-christ -- fires swallow them up and they become past tense," writes the Muslim writer Da'ud.

Why the World Trade Center? Why the Pentagon? Besides the obvious nature of these symbols, they relate to the prophetic view of future events. "Bin Laden lives in a symbolic universe which reads apocalyptically," says another scholar, Richard Landes, director of the Center for Millennial Studies at Boston University.

"We need to consider both issues -- the motivations of Bin Laden and the Arab-Israeli conflict in light of Islamism and its apocalyptic world view. Bin Laden is a central player in a cosmic battle that pits the warriors for truth against the agents of Satan and evil in this world. For a good idea of what this vision consists of, see the web site named in honor of Abdullah Azzam, Bin Laden's (now dead) mentor and the founder of MAK, the predecessor to Al Qa'ida, especially the apocalyptic reading of the present world situation by a respected Saudi theologian, Sifr al-Hawali. He uses Daniel to prove that the second intifada began the 'Day of Rage of the Lord.' See also Islam, Qur'an and Qiyamah, by a moderate theologian who dislikes the fundamentalists, but nonetheless reads Sura 57 of the Koran as an apocalyptic prophecy fulfilled in the Trade Center bombing."

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To: Polycarp; Kenton; Bikers4Bush; Semper Paratus; MarMema; StriperSniper; dead; Alouette; ...
Heck, reading FR over some years I know this article misses a big one.

Type "romiyya" into a web search engine.
61 posted on 09/17/2003 1:47:34 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: NYer
I like the way you think. Does it come with craps tables?
62 posted on 09/17/2003 1:50:29 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: rintense; Polycarp; Canticle_of_Deborah
Just for starters:

Leading Sunni Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi and Other Sheikhs Herald the Coming Conquest of Rome

Your average Wahhabi-ish jihadist thinks Constantinople still hasn't been conquered.

63 posted on 09/17/2003 1:50:53 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Polycarp
RE: #63

It was posted on FR too. Here's the link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/801707/posts
64 posted on 09/17/2003 1:53:58 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Kenton
The Tinfoil Turbanators are at it again...
65 posted on 09/17/2003 2:03:40 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ain't Skeered...)
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To: Publius6961
They touch the vatican or let loose a WMD in the US and Mecca, Medina and every other muslim "holy" place will instantly become a permanent and radioactive "hole-y" place.

Perhaps, if Ronald Reagan were president. Although I respect and support him, George W. Bush is no Ronald Reagan.

Conclusion? This will never end until each and every copy of the satanist's book they call the Koran is destroyed, all their believers converted, and all the land they conquered by the sword given back to the rightful owners.

Something like this will take hundreds of years. A nuke on Mecca will start a wave of terror unlike the world has ever seen. Terror is all they know, for in their backword society they have no ability to reason, to cooperate, or to tolerate anything other than their false religion.

66 posted on 09/17/2003 2:10:18 PM PDT by SaveTheChief
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To: Shermy
The Crusades are not over.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana, The Life of Reason, Volume 1, 1905

67 posted on 09/17/2003 2:12:45 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: NYer; Salvation; Polycarp
"Are we not to fear, during this period, that the Mohammedans will come again, working out their sinister schemes against the Latin Church?"...Venerable Holzhauser

Then he goes on to say that after the coming world war that "the empire of the Mohammedans will be broken up."

"I saw the Church of St. Peter: it had been destroyed but for the Sanctuary and the main Altar."-Venerable Emmerich

"Mary will extend the riegn of Christ over the heathens and Mohammedans and it will be a time of great joy when Mary, as Mistress and Queen of Hearts, is enthroned."-Venerable Mary of Agreda

"She (Our Lady) will extend the Kingdom of Christ over the idolators and Moslems, and there will come a glorious era in which Mary will be the ruler and Queen of human hearts."-St. Louis De Montfort

They all say the same things, that there will be a falling away from Christianity, the Catholic Church will be infiltrated and full of corruption. Christians will be persecuted and a great war will break out in Europe, in which the Muslims and others will invade and almost conquer Europe.

But, a Frenchman, descendant of royal blood will ally himself with a 'strict' pope and fight against the invaders and finally destory and convert them.

They say there will be extraordinary disturbances in nature and a three days darkness.

After that will be a short time of peace and then the Antichrist will come.

Interesting stuff.

Even Belloc in one of his books mentions the Muslims rising to power again.

68 posted on 09/17/2003 2:12:49 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: itsahoot
Maybe a little comfort is in order

Thanks.

71 posted on 09/17/2003 2:42:03 PM PDT by Polycarp ("women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness" 1Tim2:15)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
But, a Frenchman, descendant of royal blood will ally himself with a 'strict' pope and fight against the invaders and finally destory and convert them.

So much for any credibility!

72 posted on 09/17/2003 2:51:43 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Liberal = Socialist = Communist)
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To: Polycarp
Muslim Radicals don't get it, they think if they blow something up they out of fear will get the world to convert, when in fact all they cause is themselves to become target #1.
73 posted on 09/17/2003 2:56:29 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: TexasRepublic
Yeah, I know, ain't that a kick in the pants? Frenchman.
74 posted on 09/17/2003 3:07:35 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: itsahoot
Eternal security bump.
75 posted on 09/17/2003 3:28:26 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (If you keep drawing a blank... you're probably using the wrong end of the pencil.)
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To: Polycarp
They don't monopolize stupidity yet, but the FTC should probably start monitoring the situation.
76 posted on 09/17/2003 3:34:08 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (There are two certainties. Death and Texas.)
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To: Bikers4Bush
"This has been a religious war from the outset. Anyone who still doesn't see that is blind."

Yes, I agree with you, absolutely. Of course, not all Muslims may be against us, or involved with the war, and in fact, I think many millions of Muslims around the globe are actually victims of the world wide Jihad that is being waged by radical Islam.

And those who would deny this are not only blind, but deaf too(not to mention dumb, sorry, couldn't resist that). For these people have made no secret of their plans. It is the same plan old Mo himself made way back in the Eighth century, World Domination, at any and all costs.

The Europeans, in particular, have been fools to let these people in. Here, in America, we are a society of immigrants, I understand why we have foreigners and Muslims here. I can even understand this about countries like Britain and France, who had colonies until late in the 20th century. But can anyone explain to me why there are Muslims in Scandanavia? I mean whole communities, not a person here or there. I can tell you why the Muslims are there, they are the advance troops of the Jihad. I can't tell you why the Scandos let them into their previously ENTIRELY homogeneous society.

Where on earth are the Muslims not waging war on the rest of us? ALL the rest of us, not just the Christians, Jews or even Westerners? Asia? India? Africa? The Pacific Islands? North America? Europe? The Middle East? About the only place I can think of not currently plagued by Muslim terror is South and Central America. And for them I can only imagine it is only a matter of time. But, hey, maybe Argentina's looking pretty good right now!

The first rule is: Know your enemy. We ignore his motivation and meta-plan at our own peril.

Does anyone really believe the Indo/Israeli friendship is about TRADE? The Hindus and the Jews are not unwilling to admit that the Muslims are killing them for religious reasons. We Western Christians, and atheists even, better wake up to this reality, in all its implications.
78 posted on 09/17/2003 4:02:16 PM PDT by jocon307 (my 2 cents, FWIW)
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To: Publius6961
So what are you going to say if some of these things do come true?
79 posted on 09/17/2003 4:29:54 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: FeliciaCat
**How does one become a "apocalyptic writer"???? **

Have you checked "Revelation" lately?
80 posted on 09/17/2003 4:31:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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