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University Begins Displaying American Flag in Classrooms
CNS News ^ | September 12, 2003 | ucfdeltagirl

Posted on 09/15/2003 8:14:12 PM PDT by ucfdeltagirl

(CNSNews.com) - The first American flag in a Florida state university classroom was unfurled at the University of Central Florida in Orlando on Friday afternoon as a result of an effort led by conservative students.

"This is a great day for UCF students," said Heather Smith, president of Rebuilding on a Conservative Kornerstone, or ROCK, a student-based group that has been working for months to have the flags placed in the school's classrooms.

Smith said it is national emblem of freedom and liberty. However, critics of the plan said the American flags would be used to show political support for President Bush and U.S. intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, issues that not all students agree on.

Several months ago, the school administration approved the group's request to hang flags in every classroom, and UCF officials even offered to provide the labor necessary to install them. However, ROCK was required to come up with the funds to buy the flags.

The organization asked the university's student government for about $3,000 to obtain 200 flags. On Aug. 28, the student leaders voted 20-13 to deny that request after some representatives said they wanted the university - not student fees - to pay for the purchase.

Debate on the issue lasted for more than two hours and was often contentious.

"I would consider this an invasion of what is supposed to be a bastion of critical thought, the university," said Robert Coffman, a junior majoring in English at the school. "What's the next proposal? Let's have President Bush's photo in every classroom?"

"The flag doesn't offend me personally," said UCF sophomore Matt De Vlieger, a native of Coral Springs, Fla. "The way it's being used does offend me."

"It's a shame that our extremist student government is so out of step with the average UCF student," said Thomas Dexter, vice president of ROCK, after the decision was made.

However, local radio talk show host Shannon Burke heard about the vote and decided to raise money for ROCK's effort during his morning program. Within an hour, Burke had gathered all the needed funds.

The biggest contribution to the project came from the state's Elks organization (the original founders of Flag Day), which donated more than $2,000. Also providing financial support were the local SunTrust Bank, people in the Orlando community and UCF alumni and students.

On Thursday, Sept. 4, the flags for every classroom were delivered to the UCF campus. "With the money that ROCK has raised privately," Smith said, "the flags will be installed this month."

Smith had worked closely with Adam Guillette, a University of Florida senior and chairman of the Freedom Foundation. Following their success at UCF, Smith and Guillette plan to help students at other colleges promote the idea on their campuses.

Still, the controversy over the project hasn't gone away. Some students gathered outside the UCF Student Union this past week to protest the effort, with some of the youths calling the American flag "fascist" and "offensive."

Nevertheless, Burke dismissed those who claim that the flags are being used in a partisan way. "The American flag transcends any political issue," he said.

See Earlier Story: Students Push for American Flags in College Classrooms (July 25, 2003)


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: americanflag; classrooms; flags; oldglory; rock; ucf
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To: ucfdeltagirl
Smith said it is national emblem of freedom and liberty. However, critics of the plan said the American flags would be used to show political support for President Bush and U.S. intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, issues that not all students agree on.

I guess they are happier looking at the flag when it represents higher taxes and more regulation?

Believe me... I wish Bush was a Conservative more than they fear he is an "extreme" Conservative!
21 posted on 09/15/2003 8:53:51 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: ucfdeltagirl
Pardon my parsing:

[However, critics of the plan said the American flags would be used to show political support for President Bush and U.S. intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, issues that not all students agree on.]

An astonishing example of shallow thingking, even for moronic leftist college students.

[The organization asked the university's student government for about $3,000 to obtain 200 flags.]

The funds should have come from the University. I hope their alumni withhold $300,000 in donations in honor of this outrage.

["The flag doesn't offend me personally," said UCF sophomore Matt De Vlieger, a native of Coral Springs, Fla.,,"]

That's mighty white of you, Matt the Micro-Cephalic.

[However, local radio talk show host Shannon Burke heard about the vote and decided to raise money for ROCK's effort during his morning program. Within an hour, Burke had gathered all the needed funds.}

What else can be said! LOL!

[On Thursday, Sept. 4, the flags for every classroom were delivered to the UCF campus. "With the money that ROCK has raised privately," Smith said, "the flags will be installed this month." ]

Go ROCK, their supporters, and similar college organizations throughout the country!

22 posted on 09/15/2003 8:54:47 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
On Thursday, Sept. 4, the flags for every classroom were delivered to the UCF campus. "With the money that ROCK has raised privately," Smith said, "the flags will be installed this month

How long before they are burnt and defaced?
23 posted on 09/15/2003 8:57:00 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Great news!
24 posted on 09/15/2003 8:58:30 PM PDT by lainde
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To: ucfdeltagirl
The ACLU will now demand its removal. The American flag is a hate symbol in their opinion. They will also demand the gay flag be hung in all classes also.
25 posted on 09/15/2003 8:58:47 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage
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To: ucfdeltagirl
Great work!
26 posted on 09/15/2003 9:06:33 PM PDT by Flora McDonald
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To: ucfdeltagirl
The local news tonight said ROCK was still raising funds to help other students at other campuses of students who have contacted them around the country. I went to their website http://www.ucfrock.org and donated a few bucks towards the flags, it's a good cause especially after all these kids went through to try to get them in at their university.

Good work, ROCK.
27 posted on 09/15/2003 9:42:00 PM PDT by commismasher
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28 posted on 09/15/2003 10:23:58 PM PDT by Hobsonphile (Art should celebrate God's creation. Writers should love humanity in all its forms.)
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To: ucfdeltagirl
IMO Federal funds should be withdrawn from any public school or university that doesn't have the US flag in it's classrooms.
29 posted on 09/15/2003 11:10:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Thane_Banquo
A big bump for your school, too!
30 posted on 09/15/2003 11:12:14 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Mo1
However, critics of the plan said the American flags would be used to show political support for President Bush and U.S. intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, issues that not all students agree on.

Now if this flag were the good ole' hammer and scickle or even the cresant and star then there would be no problem.

31 posted on 09/16/2003 12:17:33 AM PDT by fella
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To: Thane_Banquo
YAY!! GO USF!! I am thrilled that the school's Prez has a shred of common sense about him.

The American Flag cannot be allowed to "be co-opted" Classic!! I, for one, am offended by the rhetoric of the left. The flag does not stand for Pres. Bush, just like t didn't stand for X42. It represents that very same country that protects the free speech these folks enjoy so much. The sight of her should make them overjoyed that they don't live in a "real" fascist regime. The sight of the flag should instill gratitude for our Framers, our soldiers, and our families.

32 posted on 09/16/2003 4:49:18 AM PDT by PurVirgo (Never fault a pig for having a shorter neck than a girraffe)
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To: DoughtyOne
That made me remember something - aren't public schools like high schools and middle schools supposed to raise the flag? U.S. and state?

hehe - I remember when I was in school - in elementary and middle school, it was a huge honor to get picked for Flag Bearer that week.

In high school, the ROTC guys raised and lowered the flag daily. It would be awesome if the same happened in College, outside of military school.

33 posted on 09/16/2003 4:54:45 AM PDT by PurVirgo (Never fault a pig for having a shorter neck than a girraffe)
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To: PurVirgo
Um, It's UCF. USF is in Tampa. UCF is in Orlando.
34 posted on 09/16/2003 5:29:47 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: ucfdeltagirl; Sam's Army
Hurrah! Nice work UCFDeltaGirl.

I heard last week the Student Gov't voted against the funds ($3k). I am curious as to what other "causes" the have appropriated money. (Even the Engineering/Bidness block couldn't make it pass?)

At any rate - this is a big win for America!

35 posted on 09/16/2003 6:08:45 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: ucfdeltagirl
ucfdeltagirl,

I assume you wanted to avoid the discussion in the other board -- http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981190/posts -- so you started a new that would get you all the "ditto" answers you crave.

For anyone who wants a more thoughtful discussion of flags in classroom, see the link above.

Barry
36 posted on 09/16/2003 6:14:24 AM PDT by bmauer
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To: stainlessbanner
I know a couple of professors there in my old dept are probably having to drown their sorrows....
37 posted on 09/16/2003 7:20:02 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: Sam's Army
Which professors? What do you hope they will do? Quit? Would that make the university more American? More free? What do you gain by disrupting the atmosphere on campus?

38 posted on 09/16/2003 7:31:41 AM PDT by bmauer
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To: PurVirgo
I agree. Of course some of these universitites would probably opt for the old flag of the USSR.
39 posted on 09/16/2003 8:38:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: bmauer
Try decaf

Where did I say anything about disrupting campus? I could care less if they quit, stay, or get a burial plot there.

Touchy on this issue, maybe?

40 posted on 09/16/2003 9:36:52 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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