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First Iraqi Poll a Surprise: Most Support US (ignore the media)
American Enterprise Institute ^

Posted on 09/11/2003 9:18:46 AM PDT by GulliverSwift

Publication Date: September 10, 2003

America, some say, is hobbled in its policies toward Iraq by not knowing much about what Iraqis really think. Are they on the side of radical Islamists? What kind of government would they like? What is their attitude toward the U.S.? Do the Shiites hate us? Could Iraq become another Iran under the ayatollahs? Are the people in the Sunni triangle the real problem?

Up to now we've only been able to guess. We've relied on anecdotal temperature-takings of the Iraqi public, and have been at the mercy of images presented to us by the press. We all know that journalists have a bad-news bias: 10,000 schools being rehabbed isn't news; one school blowing up is a weeklong feeding frenzy. And some of us who have spent time recently in Iraq--I was an embedded reporter during the war--have been puzzled by the postwar news and media imagery, which is much more negative than what many individuals involved in reconstructing Iraq have been telling us.

Well, finally we have some evidence of where the truth may lie. Working with Zogby International survey researchers, The American Enterprise magazine has conducted the first scientific poll of the Iraqi public. Given the state of the country, this was not easy. Security problems delayed our intrepid fieldworkers several times. We labored at careful translations, regional samplings and survey methods to make sure our results would accurately reflect the views of Iraq's multifarious, long-suffering people. We consulted Eastern European pollsters about the best way to elicit honest answers from those conditioned to repress their true sentiments.

Conducted in August, our survey was necessarily limited in scope, but it reflects a nationally representative sample of Iraqi views, as captured in four disparate cities: Basra (Iraq's second largest, home to 1.7 million people, in the far south), Mosul (third largest, far north), Kirkuk (Kurdish-influenced oil city, fourth largest) and Ramadi (a resistance hotbed in the Sunni triangle). The results show that the Iraqi public is more sensible, stable and moderate than commonly portrayed, and that Iraq is not so fanatical, or resentful of the U.S., after all.

  • Iraqis are optimistic. Seven out of 10 say they expect their country and their personal lives will be better five years from now. On both fronts, 32 percent say things will become much better.
  • The toughest part of reconstructing their nation, Iraqis say by 3 to 1, will be politics, not economics. They are nervous about democracy. Asked which is closer to their own view--"Democracy can work well in Iraq," or "Democracy is a Western way of doing things"--five out of 10 said democracy is Western and won't work in Iraq. One in 10 wasn't sure. And four out of 10 said democracy can work in Iraq. There were interesting divergences. Sunnis were negative on democracy by more than 2 to 1; but, critically, the majority Shiites were as likely to say democracy would work for Iraqis as not. People age 18-29 are much more rosy about democracy than other Iraqis, and women are significantly more positive than men.
  • Asked to name one country they would most like Iraq to model its new government on from five possibilities--neighboring, Baathist Syria; neighbor and Islamic monarchy Saudi Arabia; neighbor and Islamist republic Iran; Arab lodestar Egypt; or the U.S.--the most popular model by far was the U.S. The U.S. was preferred as a model by 37 percent of Iraqis selecting from those five--more than Syria, Iran and Egypt put together. Saudi Arabia was in second place at 28 percent. Again, there were important demographic splits. Younger adults are especially favorable toward the U.S., and Shiites are more admiring than Sunnis. Interestingly, Iraqi Shiites, coreligionists with Iranians, do not admire Iran's Islamist government; the U.S. is six times as popular with them as a model for governance.
  • Our interviewers inquired whether Iraq should have an Islamic government, or instead let all people practice their own religion. Only 33 percent want an Islamic government; a solid 60 percent say no. A vital detail: Shiites (whom Western reporters frequently portray as self-flagellating maniacs) are least receptive to the idea of an Islamic government, saying no by 66 percent to 27 percent. It is only among the minority Sunnis that there is interest in a religious state, and they are split evenly on the question.
  • Perhaps the strongest indication that an Islamic government won't be part of Iraq's future: The nation is thoroughly secularized. We asked how often our respondents had attended the Friday prayer over the previous month. Fully 43 percent said "never." It's time to scratch "Khomeini II" from the list of morbid fears.
  • You can also cross out "Osama II": 57 percent of Iraqis with an opinion have an unfavorable view of Osama bin Laden, with 41 percent of those saying it is a very unfavorable view. (Women are especially down on him.) Except in the Sunni triangle (where the limited support that exists for bin Laden is heavily concentrated), negative views of the al Qaeda supremo are actually quite lopsided in all parts of the country. And those opinions were collected before Iraqi police announced it was al Qaeda members who killed worshipers with a truck bomb in Najaf.
  • And you can write off the possibility of a Baath revival. We asked "Should Baath Party leaders who committed crimes in the past be punished, or should past actions be put behind us?" A thoroughly unforgiving Iraqi public stated by 74 percent to 18 percent that Saddam's henchmen should be punished.

This new evidence on Iraqi opinion suggests the country is manageable. If the small number of militants conducting sabotage and murder inside the country can gradually be eliminated by American troops (this is already happening), then the mass of citizens living along the Tigris-Euphrates Valley are likely to make reasonably sensible use of their new freedom. "We will not forget it was the U.S. soldiers who liberated us from Saddam," said Abid Ali, an auto repair shop owner in Sadr City last month--and our research shows that he's not unrepresentative.

None of this is to suggest that the task ahead will be simple. Inchoate anxiety toward the U.S. showed up when we asked Iraqis if they thought the U.S. would help or hurt Iraq over a five-year period. By 50 percent to 36 percent they chose hurt over help. This is fairly understandable; Iraqis have just lived through a war in which Americans were (necessarily) flinging most of the ammunition. These experiences may explain why women (who are more antimilitary in all cultures) show up in our data as especially wary of the U.S. right now. War is never pleasant, though U.S. forces made heroic efforts to spare innocents in this one, as I illustrate with firsthand examples in my book about the battles.

Evidence of the comparative gentleness of this war can be seen in our poll. Less than 30 percent of our sample of Iraqis knew or heard of anyone killed in the spring fighting. Meanwhile, fully half knew some family member, neighbor or friend who had been killed by Iraqi security forces during the years Saddam held power.

Perhaps the ultimate indication of how comfortable Iraqis are with America's aims in their region came when we asked how long they would like to see American and British forces remain in their country: Six months? One year? Two years or more? Two thirds of those with an opinion urged that the coalition troops should stick around for at least another year.

We're making headway in a benighted part of the world. Hang in there, America.

Karl Zinsmeister is editor in chief of The American Enterprise magazine and holder of the J.B. Fuqua chair at the American Enterprise Institute.



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. Younger adults are especially favorable toward the U.S., and Shiites are more admiring than Sunnis. Interestingly, Iraqi Shiites, coreligionists with Iranians, do not admire Iran's Islamist government; the U.S. is six times as popular with them as a model for governance.

The media really p(*&es me off. They and the Demoncrats want Iraq to look as bad as possible, and they run the very real risk of pulling off a coup in America if they get away with this persistent, fabricated negativism.

If this poll were common knowledge, there's no way they nine dwarfs at the democrap debate could get away with what they said about Bush's handling of Iraq. But then again, who decides if something becomes common knowledge?

"How would you say things are going for the U.S. in its efforts to bring stability and order to Iraq? Would you say things are going very well, somewhat well, somewhat badly, or very badly?"

Very
Well
Somewhat
Well
Somewhat
Badly
Very
Badly
Don't
Know
% % % % %
8/26-28/03 5 46 31 16 2
8/11-12/03 6 47 28 13 6
7/03 6 54 25 11 4
5/03 11 61 19 5 4

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This poll from pollingreport.com shows a steady decline in public opinion about what's going on in Iraq. The media's working hard, and they're succeeding.


1 posted on 09/11/2003 9:18:47 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: GulliverSwift
Many of us here on FR have known for a while that the Iraqii's appreciate us being there thought emails from "the front lines". If we have known it so has the "elite media", they just refuse to publicize it. Maybe now it will get some traction.
2 posted on 09/11/2003 9:22:46 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: ladtx
"thought emails" should be "through emails"
3 posted on 09/11/2003 9:23:36 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: GulliverSwift; Grampa Dave
How come I haven't seen THIS before???
4 posted on 09/11/2003 9:25:22 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Rather than vote for either AS or CB, I'll vote NO on Recall and Yes on McClintock if I have to!!!)
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To: GulliverSwift
Thanks for the post. It confirms what most sane people think is going on in Iraq.
5 posted on 09/11/2003 9:25:49 AM PDT by TheDon (Tick, tock, tick, tock...the sound of the clock ticking down the time until Tom drops out.)
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To: ladtx
"We will not forget it was the U.S. soldiers who liberated us from Saddam," said Abid Ali, an auto repair shop owner in Sadr City last month--and our research shows that he's not unrepresentative.

Of course, when the media interviews someone, they don't care if it's representative of the populace or not. They try to find some idiot who says, "I hate America. Look what they have done. Under Saddam, I made a billion dinares a week. Now I have nothing. Death to America."

Of course, cynical Iraqis know that they can get on TV if they say outlandish things.

6 posted on 09/11/2003 9:26:13 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: SierraWasp
Take a wild guess. Something to do with ABCBSNBCNNMSNBC Washington Potty, New Dork Times, and the Associated P**ss.
7 posted on 09/11/2003 9:29:04 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: TheDon
bump. I'm gonna keep bumping this until everybody gets to see it.
8 posted on 09/11/2003 9:32:13 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: ladtx
Many of us here on FR have known for a while that the Iraqii's appreciate us being there thought emails from "the front lines".

Yup. I had a friend at the battle of Al-Nasiriyah. He said the Iraqis thought they were now the 51st state, and they were quite happy about it.

9 posted on 09/11/2003 9:32:45 AM PDT by jae471
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To: seamole
The tenth poll? How could the media keep ten polls secret? I've never heard of them.
11 posted on 09/11/2003 9:36:12 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: GulliverSwift
This report is being widely read. It was published in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal according to aei.org.
12 posted on 09/11/2003 9:37:07 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: GulliverSwift
Can you give me the url for this article.......

I think I'll send it to Drudge.

Thanks.
13 posted on 09/11/2003 9:38:24 AM PDT by bart99
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To: ZGuy
"That's just a right-wing editorial page. We're not going to print anything from there!"
14 posted on 09/11/2003 9:39:35 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: bart99
It's right there if you click on the link. He's been pretty liberal lately, I don't know if he wants to run it, he loves disasters. Oh well, he might have some conservativness in him still. He's been jumping on the Bush-bashing bandwagon as of late.
15 posted on 09/11/2003 9:42:23 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: ZGuy
But yeah, I missed the Wall Street Journal part. Hopefully the anti-Iraq obsession will die down now that Sept 11 anniversary has happened. Each summer the media gets on a role with the Bush bashing, and it picks up steam until the fall stories come out and change the subject.

Last year the media was obsessing about corporate corruption. I don't think they really cared, they just wanted Bush to look bad with Enron. That picked up steam, and the media were able to sway public opinion, but then the Washington sniper thing happened, as well as the annivesary of Sep. 11.

16 posted on 09/11/2003 9:46:55 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: 4papa1
ping
17 posted on 09/11/2003 9:48:03 AM PDT by tazman3
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To: GulliverSwift; DrDeb; ohioWfan; mtngrl@vrwc; MJY1288; mystery-ak; Miss Marple; Dog; ...
Ping Lists, anyone? Let's get this news spread across FR ... and, hopefully, eventually in the media. (I know .. I know ..... I'm being wildly optimistic about the media.)
18 posted on 09/11/2003 9:49:28 AM PDT by kayak (I support Billybob - www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: kayak
Is there an Iraq ping list?
19 posted on 09/11/2003 9:51:20 AM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: kayak
Mega ping comin' up ;-)
20 posted on 09/11/2003 9:52:41 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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