Schwarzenegger brands Prop. 54backers as "right-wing crazies"

California Political News and Views | September 8, 2003 | Stephen Frank

[sruleoflaw]

I post this information with the following comments.

As Republicans and conservatives activists, we know that Mr. Schwarzenegger has refused to sign a no tax hike pledge, refused to take a position on California's Family Leave Act (a major job-killer), supports homosexual domestic partners (opposed by 61% of Californians), supports gay adoption, supports abortion, has said that Proposition 187 is history and that he doesn't mind illegal aliens staying here, and in an unbelievably inept statement, said he will ask the Democrat Legislature to repeal the law giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens (as if the Democrats John Burton and Herb Wesson will give him his request). There is only one way to stop drivers licenses for illegals -- the McClintock-California Republican Assembly referendum effort. AND NOW, AS THE TOPPER, Mr. Schwarzenegger has opposed Proposition 54 AND CALLED THE SUPPORTERS OF THIS MEASURE (WHICH INCLUDES THE CALIFORNIA REPUBLICAN PARTY) 'RIGHT-WING CRAZIES'.

I have one or two questions for Mr. Schwarzenegger's followers. Do you support Proposition 54? Does Proposition 54? Do you accept Arnold's name-calling toward me, you and others? Is Arnold's name-calling indicative of what he feels toward conservatives.

Mr. McClintock has offered to debate Mr. Schwarzenegger -- ONE ON ONE, MAN TO MAN. Let them debate...and then we'll choose a course of action.

California Political News and Views September 8, 2003 Published by Stephen Frank

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MAJOR STORY--ARNOLD CALLS SUPPORTERS OF PROP 54, TO END RACIAL PROFILING, "Right Wing Crazies".

Dear Political Activist:

Conservative elected officials, many of them, have endorsed Arnold. His reply to them? He calls them "right wing crazies". Why, because they oppose racial profiling and believe all people should be treated equally.

Arnold has come out against Prop. 54, which has been endorsed by the California Republican Party. Yet, Arnold calls supporters of the measure, including the California Republican Party, "right wing crazies." Also calling supporters of Prop. 54 (which ends racial profiling) "right wing crazies" are Cruz Bustamante and Gray Davis.

Why does Arnold have to name call? Is this how he is going to unify the Republican Party by name calling? Shame on him. He needs to apologize to everyone of his endorsers and the CRP for another example of outrageous conduct.

Here is the original of the story:

"Yesterday, a member of our staff attended an event at which Arnold Schwarzenegger was in attendance. Here is the exchange that took place:

Justin: "So I know you haven't made a decision on Prop 54--"

[I was going to go further and attempt to make our case when he cut me off right there.]

Arnold: "No, I have made a decision. I'm against it. It looks good on the surface, but when you study it you see its true intentions. It was a no-brainer, once I looked at all the reading and all the materials. I do a lot of work with after school programs, a lot of these kids are minorities, and we need to know how they're doing and bring them up to the starting line. It was a no-brainer. And if the right-wing crazies have a problem with that, so be it."

We are absolutely convinced of the fact that because Justin is black, Arnold presumed that he is one of those liberal "minorities" who wanted to hear that kind of patronizing message."

http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/03_09_07_corner-archive.asp#013121 ARNOLD & PROP. 54 [John J. Miller] Yesterday I named three things Arnold S. could to do to appeal to conservatives. I neglected to mention a fourth: Endorse Proposition 54, Ward Connerly's latest initiative, which would ban the state from collecting information about the race and ethnicity of its citizens. For a couple of weeks, AS has said he's studying Prop. 54 and would announce his decision before Election Day. Last night, however, Connerly emailed to say AS has come out against Prop. 54. The candidate also added this little flourish: "And if the right-wing crazies have a problem with that, so be it." It is becoming increasingly clear that there is no conservative case to be made for Schwartzenegger. The man has given us "right-wing crazies" almost nothing except the hope that he might win. Friends, this is the definition of a Pyrrhic victory.

Arnold should have read this before he spoke: 10 REASONS TO SUPPORT PROPOSITION 54 Prop 54 will bar the state and all local California governments from collecting racial data in the areas of public education, employment, contracting and most other government operations. Reasonable exemptions exist for medical research subjects and patients, data collection required by federal law or for federal funds, certain activities of law enforcement and the Dept. of Fair Housing and Employment. The state legislature, by a two-thirds vote and with the governor's approval, can vote to exempt any other reasonable area. This initiative builds on Proposition 209 by eliminating race classifications in those areas where preferences are outlawed.

Race has become less and less a factor in determining the fates and fortunes of Americans. For that reason, the state should get out of the racial classification business and end the invidious practice of dividing by race. Racial classifications originate in the 17th-century slavery system and should be torn down, not propped up by government sanction. Furthermore, the classifications are unscientific and arbitrary: How much black blood makes a person black? Who counts as Hispanic? To what race do multiracial people belong?

By pitting racial groups against one another, racial classifications foster more resentment and disharmony, not less. America will never get over its race problem as long as some insist on obsessively focusing on skin color as a defining characteristic. The historic Civil Rights Movement was not waged for an America where the government required every citizen to present his or her race as a prerequisite for any government transaction. It was waged for an America where the government treated all citizens equally before the law. John F. Kennedy once said, "Race has no place in American life or law".Prop 54 will lead to that world where government disregards race.

Our government serves as a model of justice and equality for all citizens. If we truly want a color-blind society to happen someday, the first, measured step towards that goal is to establish a color-blind government. As the most diverse state in the Union, California has the most to gain from ending racial classifications. Whatever group may be up today could be down tomorrow; every Californian will be better off being treated equally under the law.

With California's state budget as much as $38 billion in the hole, our state needs to save every dollar it can. A great place to start will be the elimination of the reams of paperwork used to track race data, the numberless computer programs engineered to tabulate it, and the wasted time of countless employees entering the useless data into the system. As more Americans marry across lines of race,more children of multiracial descent are born. California, as the most diverse state, has more multiracial people than any other. These people don't fit into any one box. Why should the government require them to deny their full heritage by checking a box?

As long as we are trapped in the mindset that the only way to get past race is to obsessively track and tabulate it, we will never get past it. The only way to reach a color-blind society is to actually start behaving like we have one. It will not magically come about on its own. *********************************************************************************** FROM THE POLITICAL FRONT:

Arnold has shown himself not ready for prime time in this campaign, but maybe by October 7 he will be ready. A few examples:

1. He claims that in January, as Governor, he will "rescind" SB60 allowing illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses. His staff should have told him that Governors don't rescind laws--they veto them, they create initiatives, they speak out against them, but Governors can't rescind laws.

2. He will "audit every agency of government. He will "open the books". Actually, it is the job of the Controller to audit the books, and he can at any moment, without warning. The Governor can issue an audit demand and get it.

But, what do audits determine? They find waste and corruption. An audit does not tell if a program is good or bad, or if needed. Is he saying that the money problem of the state is waste and corruption, $38 billion dollars worth? Let him tell us, before we vote, what he will cut, or at least which programs are on the table.

3. The only "debate" he is willing to participate in is where he gets the questions five days in advance. In Hollywood, that is called "a script". (stolen from Jay Leno)

***************************************************** Let us remember, the first goal is to Recall Gray Davis. This is becoming a problem. Look at this:

Davis Ouster May Not Be A Sure Thing http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E1865%257E1616811,00.html

The gubernatorial recall races hit their mud-slinging midpoint this weekend amid a surprising and perhaps decisive twist -- signs a growing number of voters miss the "good old days" of just being unhappy with Gov. Gray Davis. Front-running replacement candidates Cruz Bustamante and Arnold Schwarzenegger have swiftly fallen into such a swamp of criticism and uncertainties that Davis' ouster no longer appears inevitable, say many Democrats and independent analysts. *************************************************************** POLL FOR THE WEEK:

The Bush Administration is asking the United Nations to get involved in the Iraq situation. Do you support or oppose the UN's involvement at this time?

Please vote yes or no and send your response and reasons to: stephenfrank@sbcglobal.net

Fun Comments from a friend. If someone from Arnold's camp would like to submit a Dr. Seuss, happy to reprint it.

From Sylvia Sullivan. 8/29/03, of San Diego County:

With Apologies to Dr. Seuss

Will you for Arnold vote?

I will not for Arnold vote! Not in a boat, not by a goat

Not with the fans he boasts Not by the money he gloats

By right stand, I am No matter dire predictions I'll stand by my convictions!

Arnold will not get my vote

Not on a float, not with a dope Not on a whim, not in a gym!

Not with a goose, not on the booze I will not be loose, with the Gov. I choose!

By Tom I stand, I am He has the right plan The man we love, to be our next Gov.!

[BunnySlippers]

There is a quote from Arnold but not in the context quoted here:

http://www.nbc4.tv/politics/2438432/detail.html

"Even within the Republican base, if you are talking about a closed Republican primary... they are no more than 20 to 25 percent of the registered Republicans. There is a perception out there that all registered Republicans are right wing crazies -- that, in fact, is not true."

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks for that quote and BTW, it is the perception. In fact, after being on here the last few weeks and seeing what I have been seeing, I would go along with that perception!

[BunnySlippers]

The quote was clearly out of context. It's disgusting what some people will do to smear Arnold's name.

[A Broken Glass Republican]

To these clowns it's obviously about losing a SURE WIN...AGAIN!

We would have been better off if this recall would have never garnered the needed votes to become reality.

What REALLY pi$$es me off is the simple fact that these people seem to not care about the 2004 Presidential election and, as much as it pains me to say it (Unlike many of them who seem to have NO problem calling us "Liberals" and other unseemly names), they are siding with the liberals in our war on terrorism by ensuring a Republican is not the Govenor of California.

Disgusting.

[A Broken Glass Republican]

Just look at the way many of them are screeching like liberals with the "HE'S A RACIST" smear.

And they call US the "RINOs"????????

[Itzlzha]

I've given up too. I never use this term, but the blind devotion is almst Hitleresque. If you read this thread, they acually use the term, LOVE when referring to McClintock. I'm suspect of any politician who puts his own ego in front of the good of the Party.

Which "party" are you referring to? Stalin's? Mao? the Nazi party?

When is the "Party" more important than the PEOPLE and PRINCIPLES the "Party" was FOUNDED ON?

Conservatives have taken it in the A$$ for the "Party"...they vote for the RINOs in the NorthEast! They vote for the RINOs in "flyover" country! They vote for the RINOs in the WEST!

But when it comes to the RINO lovers voting for a "Conservative"...they STAY HOME, or worse...vote for the DEMONRAT!

For all who would attack Conservatives supporting McClintock, you all forget something...

IMPOTUS-x42 got the FBI files on a LOT (+700!!!) prominent Republicans...how many of them are supporting AhNuld? Did those files "dissappear" with the end o' Klintler? Or is the blackmail still going on!

Let's try a game here...let's pretend AhNuld gets hit with a REALLY bad scandal in the next week...will the AhNuld supporters vote for McClintock if AhNuld pulls out?

If AhNuld doesn't pull out, and he's damaged goods by said "scandal"... should he "for the good of the Party"?

And save your sanctimoneous explations...blah blah blah..."There are none so blind as those who cannot see."

As you are proving on a daily basis!

Let's try this again....which of AhNuld SchwartzenKennedy's positions reflect the Conservative base's values (or YOURS for that matter?)? And, do you agree with his Socialist plans?

Or is all lost on you kool-aide drinkers, and the "Win" is more important than fighting for your beliefs? Selling out what you hold dear is more important/easier than fighting for what's right?

I never thought I'd be glad for Ronald Reagan having Altzheimer's...but it has spared him from seeing all he fought for flushed by CINOs/RINOs/and Country Clubbers!

Hurry....vote for AhNuld SchwartzenKennedy...it's almost tee-time!

[onyx]

You're in New Hampshire! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Move on Hildy, responding to this person is a waste of time!

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Another post by a McClintock supporter being an

Gee, this is the third McClintock supporter who has started a post and specifically mentioned me as an insult. Oh well, at least it isn't a post about me being an inspiration for child rape. That was a real winner.

The desperation to make sure Bustamante wins this race is so thick you can cut it with a chainsaw.

Some folks have class and some forget about the cl.

[PhiKapMom]

It sure was out of context and doesn't say a whole lot about the people doing the smearing. This is a DemocRAT tactic which seems to have become the tactic of McClintock's people on here!

Disgusting!

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

At 5:15am this morning, I specifically asked you not to post to me. You got the message but yet insist on conducting yourself like a spoiled child.

I will ask you again, since you decided to start an entire thread to insult me.... Please do not post to me or make any nasty comments about me and I will do the same.

[onyx]

Rick Roberts, who gave McNader a whole hour on his program yesterday morning, has just said that he believes McClintock will drop either this weekend or mid-week next week, UNLESS his poll number jump dramatically.

Rick in San Diego, like John and Ken in LA, is calling for McClintock to drop. Amen to that, but Uberroth must also drop, and he must drop immediately.

Rick is urging everyone to hold on to the absentee ballots --- to not waste their vote on McClintock --- to give him time to drop by mid-week next week.

We shall see if Rick is right in thinking that McClintock will put Bustamonte's defeat in front of his own ambitions.

[PhiKapMom]

Give it a rest! Tired of the hits against good, honest Republicans.

What's wrong with you people attacking the "Country Club Republicans" -- Republicans believe in working hard for their success. Does that somehow bother you?

Should all Republicans turn in their Country Club memberships? Some like to play golf from time to time or that is a no-no too in your world if you play on a Country Club course!

[Joe Hadenuf]

You ought to post this on every Cal election thread.......

[B Knotts]

Is there any conservative cause you would support?

Prop. 54 is so obviously the right thing to do, I cannot fathom how anyone, even a liberal, could oppose it.

[onyx]

Good post! The attacks are venomous and unwarranted, and in your case, not even a courtesy ping! Outrageous.

[B Knotts]

I've given up too. I never use this term, but the blind devotion is almst Hitleresque.

When I began to read your comment, I honestly thought you were attacking Schwarzenegger supporters. Then, I looked down and saw your name, and only then realized you were attacking McClintock supporters.

[novacation]

"I'm suspect of any politician who puts his own ego in front of the good of the party". ?????? The Republican party is getting hard to tell from the democrats.Fur zie party and damn what it use to stand for!

[Sabertooth]

Arnold: "No, I have made a decision. I'm against it. It looks good on the surface, but when you study it you see its true intentions. It was a no-brainer, once I looked at all the reading and all the materials. I do a lot of work with after school programs, a lot of these kids are minorities, and we need to know how they're doing and bring them up to the starting line. It was a no-brainer. And if the right-wing crazies have a problem with that, so be it."

Sounds like a man who thinks he doesn't need my vote. So be it.

Gotta love those "no-brainers."

[alwaysconservative]

Now we know where some of those Indian gaming and Dem contributions are going, don't we? It sickens me to think of the smug look on Davis' face as he beats the recall or Governor Bustamante's belly jiggling as he sweats through back room deals to rob citizens of legal rights. All accomplished with the assistance of an incredibly vocal minority with an agenda, or the accompices of the Dems. Sheesh!

[montag813]

Prop. 54 is so obviously the right thing to do, I cannot fathom how anyone, even a liberal, could oppose it.

Who is opposing it? I think it is a fine idea. I just don't consider it particularly significant, and see it as an exercise in vanity for Ward Connerly. Certainly it should not be used as a litmus test for Schwazenegger, who supported Prop 187.