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Miguel Estrada withdraws nomination
FOXNEWS | 9/4/03

Posted on 09/04/2003 6:08:13 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo

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To: ken5050
I do so hope you are correct. We may find out sooner rather than later. Dubya's slated to speak from KC Missouri soon.
221 posted on 09/04/2003 9:30:07 AM PDT by MamaLucci ( Clinton met with Monica more than he did his CIA director.)
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To: MamaLucci
I have to go to a meeting..will check back later..If I'm right..I trust you'll expound my talents as a predictologist.....regards..
222 posted on 09/04/2003 9:31:55 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Thane_Banquo
Miguel Estrada articles posted on FR -- Nine pages!

Now take a good long look and see what the Republicans really did do and how they were blocked by the RATS!

And stop blaming the GOP!

223 posted on 09/04/2003 9:32:28 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: mhking
Look, I'm pretty ticked off, and you are, too.

I also agree with you about the fact that at some point, we DO have to stop caving, but tell me honestly, who do you think is in a better position to make that call as to where the line is drawn? Folks like us on an internet forum posting their opinions from places like Atlanta, hundreds or even thousands of miles from the action, OR the guy on scene - in this case, Senate Majority Leader Frist?

I believe I have no more business telling Frist where to draw the line on this issue than I do of telling Ned Yost how to handle in-game decisions for the Brewers against the Cubs this weekend in Milwaukee. That's how I see this. Frist ain't no slouch - he friggin' got us to this majority as head of the Senatorial Campaign Committee - or did you forget about that already? It's only been ten months since he pulled THAT one off - against the usual historical trends.
224 posted on 09/04/2003 9:37:57 AM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: ken5050
If your prediction is correct, I'll be shoutin' it from the rooftops! :)
225 posted on 09/04/2003 9:39:56 AM PDT by MamaLucci ( Clinton met with Monica more than he did his CIA director.)
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To: votelife
ah.
226 posted on 09/04/2003 10:14:22 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: ladtx
Really shows the clay feet of the Republicans, that they can be defeated by a fake filibuster.

What comes around, goes around. Payback will be hell for the Dems when it's there turn.

227 posted on 09/04/2003 10:14:38 AM PDT by m1-lightning (Do liberal judges really use a thesarus when refering to words in the Constitution?)
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To: mhking; MamaLucci
In my mind, President Bush has set the tone for the WoT, The war in Iraq, tax cuts, etc. Judicial nominations should not be any different. He actually took a very strong stand earlier this summer when he pledged to support Estrada til the end- and managed to make the Democrats look small too. Bush had every chance to use the kahunas we know he has to get this man on the bench. He didn't. And for that, I am sorry because we've lost a good conservative who could have done great things.

The other problem is this. If the Dems blocked Estrada, do you really think they'll go for anyone more conservative than Estrada? There's no way in hell, which means we have to once again play the game of picking a judge who's more liberal. In the end, we all lose- except for the Dems.

228 posted on 09/04/2003 10:20:41 AM PDT by rintense (I've had it with illegals and liberals. Get the hell out of my country.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
I still wait patiently for the "Bushbots" and the "Republicans can do no wrong, give them more time, blah blah blah" crowd will finally realize that there is no difference which party is in power. Were things all that different when Clintoon was in office? These politians rage at each other, but , under-the-table, they are winking and shaking hands. There is NO difference between the two, but they have their supporters SO SCARED of the other party that they know we will shrung and CONTINUE to vote for them. Lesser of two evils, you know. Maybe,...someday,...the Bushbots will see,......someday.
229 posted on 09/04/2003 10:23:49 AM PDT by Merdoug
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To: scottlang
Another Bush defeat, a conservative would have pushed harder. But Bush is not a conservative, he is a moderate.

Look at the whole picture. Moderates make up about 60% of the US population. If the Republicans can gain the majority in the Senate by claiming to be moderate and ad hoc vote for some meaningless liberal issues, they will have the power that James Madison once said would never happen.

A 2/3 control of the three branches of government by one political party would end the strife to acomplish their agenda. Though control of the states as well would definitely nail the coffin shut on the liberals, it's not needed when the courts can be controlled by the other two branches of federal government.

230 posted on 09/04/2003 10:30:26 AM PDT by m1-lightning (Do liberal judges really use a thesarus when refering to words in the Constitution?)
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To: mhking
I will be contacting you later on this matter I am speaking to other groups and we are trying to put a strong response together.
231 posted on 09/04/2003 10:35:20 AM PDT by Trueblackman (Frinking does a body good)
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To: mhking
Owen is ahead of Brown, I meant Brown will be the new target, particularly since she's appointed for the DC Court, which Estrada was, so there will be pressure to get someone confirmed here.
232 posted on 09/04/2003 10:42:21 AM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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To: PhiKapMom
A lengthy filibuster would not have changed one thing and would have polarized the Senate even more and important work would not be accomplished.

In my opinion, bogging the Senate down would be GREAT! I consider very little they do to be "important work".

233 posted on 09/04/2003 11:03:10 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: VRWC_minion
Since he's no longer a nominee, maybe Bush should recess-appoint him now! After all, whats' to lose?
234 posted on 09/04/2003 11:06:37 AM PDT by livius
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I hope Bush nominates a "stealth" conservative to the SCOTUS as a pay back, the mirror image of Souter.

The anti-Souter would have a moderate record on his current résumé, but once he gets to the SCOTUS, he will make Thomas look like a left-winger.

235 posted on 09/04/2003 11:13:01 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: ken5050
(((((crickets)))))
236 posted on 09/04/2003 11:15:00 AM PDT by MamaLucci ( Clinton met with Monica more than he did his CIA director.)
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To: unspun
Thanks for the ping, unspun. I sure hated hearing this news today! I wish the Hispanics would rise up and yell 'foul'!!

Maybe if the Repubs quit suffering from inertia, Bush can reappoint him!??

237 posted on 09/04/2003 12:00:06 PM PDT by potlatch (If you want breakfast in bed - - - sleep in the kitchen!)
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To: TomGuy
How long will Owens wait before withdrawing her nomination?

I see your point, but Owens is in a substantially different situation: she's already a judge. She doesn't have to trim down substantially what she does or says, as Estrada has had to do with his law business, while awaiting (and awaiting ... and awaiting) a floor vote.
238 posted on 09/04/2003 12:06:11 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: livius
Recess judicial appointees aren't paid anything. Estrada may have a mortgage and other bills to pay. Now, what about putting Bork in there? He's got money enough ... *L*
239 posted on 09/04/2003 12:07:28 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Thane_Banquo
"I feel symphathy for Miguel Estrada, but we feel we have no regrets about what we've done," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., a strong critic of the nomination. "If the Founding Fathers are looking down on us today, I am confident that they are proud of us for defending the Constitution as we have with this nomination."

240 posted on 09/04/2003 12:15:02 PM PDT by votelife (Free Bill Pryor)
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