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Barry Bonds Hospitalized
Yahoo! ^ | August 31, 2003 | Mel Reisner

Posted on 08/31/2003 8:20:05 PM PDT by mrobison

PHOENIX - Barry Bonds was hospitalized Sunday night because of exhaustion following his father's death.

Bonds was scratched from San Francisco's lineup just minutes before Sunday night's game against the Arizona Diamondbacks, one day after he left a game because of an accelerated heart rate.

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To: cinFLA
Just two weeks ago, ex-major leaguer Jose Canseco claimed that 85% of big-league stars use steroids. He plans to write a book about it and name some of the alleged guilty parties.

You're wasting your time with this data. These children don't want to have their bubble burst. They think that these freakish physiques in pro sports are obtained in the gym by hours of exercise. Steroid use in the NFL, MLs and even the NBA is incredible.

221 posted on 09/01/2003 9:12:40 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: cinFLA
Pretending what.

Pretending to have information about whether or not Bonds has used steroids.

If you're acknowledging you have no such information, this conversation is over, thanks for playing.

222 posted on 09/01/2003 9:13:01 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: bootless
"BluesDuke, is that you?"

Never had the pleasure.

I was in Nicaragua--Marvin Bernard's country!--when the Braves came to town and I saw the 2nd game of the series on the tube. That was the day after Bonds launched one into McCovey Cove to win game 1 in the 9th (and, I believe, the day before he launched another one into the Cove to win game 3 in the 10th).
223 posted on 09/01/2003 9:17:48 PM PDT by Sick of Lefties
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To: Sick of Lefties
For one brief moment, Pac Bell Park was the center of the universe. And, the funny thing is that it feels that way to Giants fans just about every time he steps to the plate.

Great post....and not just Giant fans feel that way. I started paying attention to Bonds several years ago, when his numbers started to accumulate. Now, I want to see the Giants succeed, just so the opportunities to watch Bonds play increase...as was the case with Jordan, and Elway. And Frankly, Bonds is more exciting than either.

224 posted on 09/01/2003 9:18:37 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: Mr. Mojo
Does Jesse have Parkison's? It looks like he shakes a little.

Jesse had some internal issues to deal with related to steroid use. I can't remember what they were, but he was forced into retirement from wrestling.

I'll see if I can find info.

225 posted on 09/01/2003 9:22:51 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Mr. Mojo
Jesse jumped back to the WWF during the war year of 1984 but plans to push him fell apart in September of that year when a blood clot in his lung hospitalized him. Ventura claimed it was from chemicals used in Vietnam (Agent Orange), although others claim it was due to Ventura's prolonged usage of anabolic steroids.

Ventura returned to the ring in late 1984 but his health was so bad that he could never be pushed. He had to take medication which caused his blood not to clot, and the blood thinners would make a ring cut, something required in main events, run without clotting which could be exceptionally dangerous. With his health failing, Jesse was put on the air as a color TV commentator after the WWF fired Angelo Mosca, Sr. for being inept.
226 posted on 09/01/2003 9:27:36 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: Dr. Frank
"It's worth adding that there are plenty of folks who don't like Jeff Kent."

I liked Jeff Kent for his hard-nosed attitude and big bat. I suppose that it's noble for a star athlete to refuse to accept that he's second fiddle, but it's also somewhat annoying. And, Jeff Kent, for all his batting prowess, was second fiddle on the Giants, just like Steve Young, for all his passing precision and running ability, was second fiddle on the 49ers while Joe Montana was there. It's a pity for Kent, but not for the Giants, that Bonds didn't get hurt and become expendable.

I guess his Waterloo in SF was when he mooned the crowd of reporters in the club house who'd asked him about his dugout fight with Bonds. It was over the top, even in San Francisco.

I wanted him to stay, just like I wanted Dusty and David Bell to stay. In retrospect, however, his departure has lifted a dark cloud from the team. I only regret that he didn't leave with a World Series Championship ring.

227 posted on 09/01/2003 9:41:19 PM PDT by Sick of Lefties
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To: Dolphy
"compassion shouldn't only be reserved for those who do it your way and to your standards."

Very well put, mind if I quote you on my bio page? ;-)

228 posted on 09/01/2003 9:43:09 PM PDT by KineticKitty (We support our troops...as long as what they say/do fits our preconceived notions?)
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To: cinFLA
You are very predictable.
229 posted on 09/01/2003 10:05:26 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: cinFLA
BB's father dies and some jerkoff uses Barry's grief to talk about alleged steroid use.

That's a complete jerkoff.

230 posted on 09/01/2003 10:34:09 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: cinFLA
ps,

Bite me

231 posted on 09/01/2003 10:37:39 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Mr. Mojo
You're welcome. KTVU showed the stats, which I'm trying to remember. I think the team is 13-15 without him, and 70-38 or something with him. There is no doubt that he drastically alters the game plan. Remember when Buck Showalter (then Diamondbacks manager) walked him with the bases loaded, rather than risk a slam? Turns out that tactic worked - that time.

What I've enjoyed seeing is Bonds stealing 2nd on occasion after yet ANOTHER four-finger at-bat. He doesn't steal a lot, but he steals smart.

And yes, it's the same old steroids lack of facts thing. My opinion? Show me some hard facts, not the opinion of some columnist or the word a a jailbird who will say just about anything to get his name in print.

232 posted on 09/01/2003 11:18:05 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: mrobison
Do you think this is drug related or just drugs?
233 posted on 09/01/2003 11:18:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: cinFLA
OK, thanks. I believe that the Players Association will eventually agree to the drug testing program - they will have to.

Which leads us to the general question of drug testing. I am fortunate enough to be self-employed. Well, I did it on purpose. Even though I work much longer hours than the average office worker, and have to MAKE myself take a day off when I've got pending projects, it's a choice I gladly made. For one thing, I do not, and will never, have employees. When I divide up the mail for the suckers ... other building tenants with employees, I see all the directives from the State of California, including drug testing.

I don't do drugs, unless you count Long Island Iced Teas as such. I will probably never have to be asked to partake in a blood test, unless I get ramp checked some time. But I have a distinct distaste for drug testing in professions where life and limb are not at risk. Bus drivers? Airline pilots? Air traffic controllers? Amtrak engineers? OK, go ahead. I don't want my jaunt on the Starlight Express come to grief because the engineer is toking.

But the guy in the mailroom? Sheesh. Remember when it seemed like a good idea to send the smokers outdoors? Not too long a path to the attempts to tax fast food, is it?

But that's a whole different discussion.

So, who knows why Barry Bonds isn't calling for steroid testing in the MLB? Maybe it's for reasons other than CYA. I don't dare speculate. Perhaps he has philosophical objections to drug testing.

BTW, there is a difference between the supplements that Mark McGwire took and steroids.

And steroids don't enable a batter, like Bonds, to drive a pitch up the middle off the pitchers whose SOLE JOB is to get Barry Bonds out. Mike Myers is about to lose his job if he keeps that up.
234 posted on 09/01/2003 11:28:09 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: cinFLA
But Sosa doesn't seem to have a problem with cork...
235 posted on 09/01/2003 11:29:03 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Dr. Frank
Jeff Kent wrote his ticket out of SF, which is too bad, because he's been my son's favorite player, just for his sheer grit.

I called in to Rob Brooks' show on KNBR, back when this article was coming out and Rob was doing late mornings. Seems that Mr. Reilly is under the impression that a clubhouse must resemble a elementary school level rec team, rather than a professional clubhouse. So, I called Rob, said so, and asked if in addition to them all going out together for dinner after the game, Reilly wanted them to hold hands and sing Kumbaya.

He agreed, and when he got Reilly on a phoner shortly after that, he asked him the Kumbaya question as well. (YES!) Reilly was not that convincing, and came across as bitter. Remember, the timing of the article was just as the Giants were traveling to NY to play the Yankees. National spotlight time. And it worked - we're still mentioning his name.

What burned up the call-in lines here was that Reilly was treating Bonds as if we had never heard that he was cool to the press. We knew that. We also know the members of the media that he respects and will respond to, because they respect him in turn and don't ask him stupid questions.

A sidenote, on his weekly show on KNBR a week later, Jeff Kent expressed his displeasure with the chop job that Reilly did with his part of the interview. Seems that the part where Kent respects Bonds, although they are not best friends and don't go to the soda shop together, was not given much, if any, emphasis.

And yes, Reilly came off as a total weenie in his interview. He was overmatched.
236 posted on 09/01/2003 11:38:24 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Sick of Lefties
And, he might again!

Yikes! He's a pretty good pinch hitter, esp. when he gets his "stank-eye" working. But in center? Yikes! I am very happy to see Grissom and Cruz patrolling center and right! Cruz is a treat to watch. But, to really make your knees turn to jelly, do you remember Johnny Disaster at short? I used to pray that they wouldn't hit it to him late in a tight game.

I was still in CT and a Mets fan when he played. (chortling at the name). But I WAS here for the 1987 playoffs in St. Louis. Two words: Candy Maldonado (which means "bad fielding in the playoffs"). I still hold a mild grudge against the Cards, which lightened up considerable when the Giants passed them in the NLDS last year.

237 posted on 09/01/2003 11:42:12 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Aw c'mon: Jose Canseco claiming something is NOT data. It's a claim.
238 posted on 09/01/2003 11:43:07 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Sick of Lefties
:-) The BluesDuke reference is a tip of the hat for some particularly insightful bit of baseball writing. His baseball analyses and tying history to present-day is unparalleled.

That Braves series - OMG. That was unearthly. And the whole team was lifted.
239 posted on 09/01/2003 11:45:34 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Sick of Lefties
I liked Jeff Kent for his hard-nosed attitude and big bat.

Me, too. His performance in Game 5 against the Angels was spectacular. He worked hard - he was not a natural at second, but he worked at it till he got some beautifully smooth transfer to Aurilia down.

I guess his Waterloo in SF was when he mooned the crowd of reporters in the club house who'd asked him about his dugout fight with Bonds. It was over the top, even in San Francisco.

Ouch. I hadn't heard about that.

I wanted him to stay, just like I wanted Dusty and David Bell to stay. In retrospect, however, his departure has lifted a dark cloud from the team. I only regret that he didn't leave with a World Series Championship ring.

Me, too. I was actually sorrier to see David Bell go than Dusty. It was especially poignant that he won the Willie Mac Award ... and then left. I loved watching him play.

240 posted on 09/01/2003 11:52:59 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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