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Confessions of a Terrorist (al-Qaeda leader's explosive allegations)
Time Magazine ^ | September 8 issue | JOHANNA MCGEARY

Posted on 08/31/2003 11:14:47 AM PDT by veronica

Author Gerald Posner claims an al-Qaeda leader made explosive allegations while under interrogation

By March 2002, the terrorist called Abu Zubaydah was one of the most wanted men on earth. A leading member of Osama bin Laden's brain trust, he is thought to have been in operational control of al-Qaeda's millennium bomb plots as well as the attack on the U.S.S. Cole in October 2000. After the spectacular success of the airliner assaults on the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001, he continued to devise terrorist plans.

Seventeen months ago, the U.S. finally grabbed Zubaydah in Pakistan and has kept him locked up in a secret location ever since. His name has probably faded from most memories. It's about to get back in the news. A new book by Gerald Posner says Zubaydah has made startling revelations about secret connections linking Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and bin Laden.

Details of that terrorism triangle form the explosive final chapter in Posner's examination of who did what wrong before Sept. 11. Most of his new book, Why America Slept (Random House), is a lean, lucid retelling of how the CIA, FBI and U.S. leaders missed a decade's worth of clues and opportunities that if heeded, Posner argues, might have forestalled the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Posner is an old hand at revisiting conspiracy theories. He wrote controversial assessments dismissing those surrounding the J.F.K. and Martin Luther King Jr. assassinations. And the Berkeley-educated lawyer is adept at marshaling an unwieldy mass of information—most of his sources are other books and news stories—into a pattern made tidy and linear by hindsight. His indictment of U.S. intelligence and law-enforcement agencies covers well-trodden ground, though sometimes the might-have-beens and could-have-seens are stretched thin. The stuff that is going to spark hot debate is Chapter 19, an account—based on Zubaydah's claims as told to Posner by "two government sources" who are unnamed but "in a position to know"—of what two countries allied to the U.S. did to build up al-Qaeda and what they knew before that September day.

Zubaydah's capture and interrogation, told in a gripping narrative that reads like a techno-thriller, did not just take down one of al-Qaeda's most wanted operatives but also unexpectedly provided what one U.S. investigator told Posner was "the Rosetta stone of 9/11 ... the details of what (Zubaydah) claimed was his 'work' for senior Saudi and Pakistani officials." The tale begins at 2 a.m. on March 28, 2002, when U.S. surveillance pinpointed Zubaydah in a two-story safe house in Pakistan. Commandos rousted out 62 suspects, one of whom was seriously wounded while trying to flee. A Pakistani intelligence officer and hastily made voiceprints quickly identified the injured man as Zubaydah.

Posner elaborates in startling detail how U.S. interrogators used drugs—an unnamed "quick-on, quick-off" painkiller and Sodium Pentothal, the old movie truth serum—in a chemical version of reward and punishment to make Zubaydah talk. When questioning stalled, according to Posner, cia men flew Zubaydah to an Afghan complex fitted out as a fake Saudi jail chamber, where "two Arab-Americans, now with Special Forces," pretending to be Saudi inquisitors, used drugs and threats to scare him into more confessions.

Yet when Zubaydah was confronted by the false Saudis, writes Posner, "his reaction was not fear, but utter relief." Happy to see them, he reeled off telephone numbers for a senior member of the royal family who would, said Zubaydah, "tell you what to do." The man at the other end would be Prince Ahmed bin Salman bin Abdul Aziz, a Westernized nephew of King Fahd's and a publisher better known as a racehorse owner. His horse War Emblem won the Kentucky Derby in 2002. To the amazement of the U.S., the numbers proved valid. When the fake inquisitors accused Zubaydah of lying, he responded with a 10-minute monologue laying out the Saudi-Pakistani-bin Laden triangle.

Zubaydah, writes Posner, said the Saudi connection ran through Prince Turki al-Faisal bin Abdul Aziz, the kingdom's longtime intelligence chief. Zubaydah said bin Laden "personally" told him of a 1991 meeting at which Turki agreed to let bin Laden leave Saudi Arabia and to provide him with secret funds as long as al-Qaeda refrained from promoting jihad in the kingdom. The Pakistani contact, high-ranking air force officer Mushaf Ali Mir, entered the equation, Zubaydah said, at a 1996 meeting in Pakistan also attended by Zubaydah. Bin Laden struck a deal with Mir, then in the military but tied closely to Islamists in Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (isi), to get protection, arms and supplies for al-Qaeda. Zubaydah told interrogators bin Laden said the arrangement was "blessed by the Saudis."

Zubaydah said he attended a third meeting in Kandahar in 1998 with Turki, senior isi agents and Taliban officials. There Turki promised, writes Posner, that "more Saudi aid would flow to the Taliban, and the Saudis would never ask for bin Laden's extradition, so long as al-Qaeda kept its long-standing promise to direct fundamentalism away from the kingdom." In Posner's stark judgment, the Saudis "effectively had (bin Laden) on their payroll since the start of the decade." Zubaydah told the interrogators that the Saudis regularly sent the funds through three royal-prince intermediaries he named.

The last eight paragraphs of the book set up a final startling development. Those three Saudi princes all perished within days of one another. On July 22, 2002, Prince Ahmed was felled by a heart attack at age 43. One day later Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki al-Saud, 41, was killed in what was called a high-speed car accident. The last member of the trio, Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud al-Kabir, officially "died of thirst" while traveling east of Riyadh one week later. And seven months after that, Mushaf Ali Mir, by then Pakistan's Air Marshal, perished in a plane crash in clear weather over the unruly North-West Frontier province, along with his wife and closest confidants.

Without charging any skulduggery (Posner told TIME they "may in fact be coincidences"), the author notes that these deaths occurred after cia officials passed along Zubaydah's accusations to Riyadh and Islamabad. Washington, reports Posner, was shocked when Zubaydah claimed that "9/11 changed nothing" about the clandestine marriage of terrorism and Saudi and Pakistani interests, "because both Prince Ahmed and Mir knew that an attack was scheduled for American soil on that day." They couldn't stop it or warn the U.S. in advance, Zubaydah said, because they didn't know what or where the attack would be. And they couldn't turn on bin Laden afterward because he could expose their prior knowledge. Both capitals swiftly assured Washington that "they had thoroughly investigated the claims and they were false and malicious." The Bush Administration, writes Posner, decided that "creating an international incident and straining relations with those regional allies when they were critical to the war in Afghanistan and the buildup for possible war with Iraq, was out of the question."

The book seems certain to kick up a political and diplomatic firestorm. The first question everyone will ask is, Is it true? And many will wonder if these matters were addressed in the 28 pages censored from Washington's official report on 9/11. It has long been suggested that Saudi Arabia probably had some kind of secret arrangement to stave off fundamentalists within the kingdom. But this appears to be the first description of a repeated, explicit quid pro quo between bin Laden and a Saudi official. Posner told TIME he got the details of Zubaydah's interrogation and revelations from a U.S. official outside the cia at a "very senior Executive Branch level" whose name we would probably know if he told it to us. He did not. The second source, Posner said, was from the cia, and he gave what Posner viewed as general confirmation of the story but did not repeat the details. There are top Bush Administration officials who have long taken a hostile view of Saudi behavior regarding terrorism and might want to leak Zubaydah's claims. Prince Turki, now Saudi Arabia's ambassador to Britain, did not respond to Posner's letters and faxes.

There's another unanswered question. If Turki and Mir were cutting deals with bin Laden, were they acting at the behest of their governments or on their own? Posner avoids any direct statement, but the book implies that they were doing official, if covert, business. In the past, Turki has admitted—to TIME in November 2001, among others—attending meetings in '96 and '98 but insisted they were efforts to persuade Sudan and Afghanistan to hand over bin Laden. The case against Pakistan is cloudier. It is well known that Islamist elements in the isi were assisting the Taliban under the government of Nawaz Sharif. But even if Mir dealt with bin Laden, he could have been operating outside official channels.

Finally, the details of Zubaydah's drug-induced confessions might bring on charges that the U.S. is using torture on terrorism suspects. According to Posner, the Administration decided shortly after 9/11 to permit the use of Sodium Pentothal on prisoners. The Administration, he writes, "privately believes that the Supreme Court has implicitly approved using such drugs in matters where public safety is at risk," citing a 1963 opinion.

For those who still wonder how the attacks two years ago could have happened, Posner's book provides a tidy set of answers. But it opens up more troubling questions about crucial U.S. allies that someone will now have to address.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2ndanniversary; alqaeda; bookreview; geraldposner; pakistan; saudiarabia; usscole; whyamericaslept; zubaydah
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1 posted on 08/31/2003 11:14:47 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
bump.
2 posted on 08/31/2003 11:20:32 AM PDT by milestogo
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To: veronica; Shermy; Dog; Angelus Errare
Yes, but were these sheikhs and the Pakistani general killed to stop the trail from going to higherups?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/973524/posts
3 posted on 08/31/2003 11:25:22 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: dennisw; SJackson; yoe; yonif; Brian Allen; backhoe; Catspaw; Alouette; JohnHuang2; dighton
FYI.
4 posted on 08/31/2003 11:34:16 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.majorityleader.gov/news.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=123)
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To: veronica
If the stuff in the book is true, there is a diplomatic $hitstorm going on right now that we know nothing about.
5 posted on 08/31/2003 12:29:06 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: veronica
The Administration, he writes, "privately believes that the Supreme Court has implicitly approved using such drugs in matters where public safety is at risk," citing a 1963 opinion.

The SCOTUS doesn't rule this nation. If they don't approve, (in the words of the father in Legends of the Fall ...) "Screw 'um" ... saving American lives can take extra-ordinary means with non-citizens, IMHO.

6 posted on 08/31/2003 12:30:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Shermy
I don't trust Posner, see what you think. This is what we've been saying... its weird, though, to see it laid out in black and white.
7 posted on 08/31/2003 1:35:45 PM PDT by marron
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To: veronica
Interesting.

It seems our "friends" the Saudis and Pakistanis are up their necks in blood,... ours!

8 posted on 08/31/2003 1:43:06 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: marron
Most of this stuff has been know on this site for years. We've all known that there was a split withing the Al Saud family and there is an ongoing battle between the good guys and the bad guys for the control of the country.

When the two princes died so close to each other, everyone here speculated that the reason was because they were somehow mixed up with financing terrorists.

Remember that the ruling family is over 6,000 strong, it's not like it's 3 brothers.

We're all going to have to be patient a little longer to see what's going to play out. It's going to be very interesting.

9 posted on 08/31/2003 1:52:14 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: veronica
Despite my reservations about Posner, the story has the ring of truth to me.

I arrived at essentially the same conclusions based on what was already known, and what he says simply fits in with what is previously known.

The Saudis have been funding insurgencies all across Asia and the Balkans, everywhere there is an opportunity, but most especially in Central Asia, Indonesia, India, the Philippines. All of these insurgencies were Saudi funded, all of them occurred in parallel with heavy Wahab missionary activity also Saudi funded, and all of them linked up and received training at Bin Ladin's training camps. If all of the Saudi backed insurgencies are trained by Bin Ladin, it is reasonable to call him a Saudi agent.

Once you see him as a Saudi agent, it becomes much easier to understand why we didn't insist on his arrest in the nineties. We took a few half-hearted slaps at him in order to redirect his attacks away from us, while defending his operations in Chechnya, and assisting Saudi goals in the Balkans. Other Saudi wars which we could not support, the wars in the Philippines or India for example, we simply turned a blind eye.

It was not until the early days of the Bush administration that we began to shift our support away from the Chechens as Bush redefined our relationship with Russia, and implicitly, with the Saudis. Post 9/11 we actively began to hunt down and attack all of these Saudi operations, fighting them directly in Yemen and the Philippines, training and assisting local forces to go and get them all across the 'Stans, attacking and destroying the Taliban, and so on. If you understand that these operations were Saudi operations, then our attacks on them were in effect a declaration of war on Saudi Arabia, but of a very special kind, in which we kill their killers while continuing to swear our undying friendship with the Princes who gave the orders.

Posner's book was not written in a vacuum, this is I don't doubt written with government sponsorship to begin the final shift in public attitudes toward the Saudis. We have been ramping up the pressure on the Sauds, and they have responded by employing PR firms to spread the word that they are in this with us, that they are just as much victims as are we. Meanwhile, the funding and the Wahab rabble-rousing continues unabated. It will not stop until the Sauds are convinced that they are themselves personally in danger of extinction at our hands, and for some who believe their own sermons it will not stop even then. We will not be finished until we have cleaned out the snakepit in Riyadh.
10 posted on 08/31/2003 2:15:57 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
We will not be finished until we have cleaned out the snakepit in Riyadh.

Agreed, however this has been know BUT not professed for some time now.

11 posted on 08/31/2003 2:25:33 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: marron
I find the deaths most indicative of the seriousness of the charges posed by this author. It seems that death is the final cover-up for the most heinouse actions and targeted investigations. Ala Jim McDougal ( Whitewater ) and Vince Foster ( WACO ), McVey (shutting down the tremendous material support of foreign terrorist activity involved in the Okla bombing) and on and on. And according to Posner, here the principle Saudi and Pakistani Laden/Saudi links have perished.

Most interesting.

12 posted on 08/31/2003 2:30:14 PM PDT by Republic
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To: veronica
The week before 9/11, there was a huge amount of stock option activity (thread) in certain companies that were to have been affected by 9/11.

After October, the story went into the memory hole

It is my belief that the money trail lead to people who, for political reasons, could not be touched

13 posted on 08/31/2003 2:34:33 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === needs a job at the moment)
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To: milestogo
See, conspiracy theories can be right...

The absolute best part about this is that it is published in TIME Magazine rather than some obscure right-wing journal. It will get lots of attention from the mainstream papers and probably nightly news shows -- especially Fox News, heh heh. The Saudis are not loved by ABCNNBCBS news people. And the Dems will try to blame the Bush coziness with the Saudis, but most of this happened on Clinton's watch. Bush can truthfully claim that we are taking care of the problem.

I can hardly wait to see that smooth snake-in-the-grass Saudi al-Zubeir try to wriggle out of this on Russert's show in the near future!
14 posted on 08/31/2003 2:47:26 PM PDT by RandyRep
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To: veronica
btttt
15 posted on 08/31/2003 2:52:56 PM PDT by ellery
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To: veronica; #1CTYankee; .303 Brit; Agamemnon; AGBRUHN; always vigilant; Anarchist; Andonius_99; ...
must read bump
16 posted on 08/31/2003 7:28:11 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: veronica; #1CTYankee; .303 Brit; Agamemnon; AGBRUHN; always vigilant; Anarchist; Andonius_99; ...
must read bump
17 posted on 08/31/2003 7:30:02 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: veronica
While the dems will try to blame the Bush admin - I can see where the choice of not causing an international incident at the time was perhaps prudent. And .. in the long run - since the attack in Saudi Arabia, the Saudi's have begun to actively participate in the anti-terrorism campaign.
18 posted on 08/31/2003 7:34:10 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: veronica
Sodium Pentothal ?

That would only be part of what I would inject them with.
LSD-25 would spice up the mix nicely along with the proper
set and setting. Hehe.

Whoa, the little men in pointy hats and the WALLS.... Wayayayaya!
19 posted on 08/31/2003 8:32:45 PM PDT by tet68
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To: RaceBannon
Looks interesting. Thanks for the ping!
20 posted on 08/31/2003 10:12:28 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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