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1 posted on 08/31/2003 9:20:31 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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general interest ping

long article but interesting
2 posted on 08/31/2003 9:26:18 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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Very interesting, thanks for posting this. It's about time someone wrote this book.
3 posted on 08/31/2003 9:31:45 AM PDT by jocon307
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4 posted on 08/31/2003 9:32:18 AM PDT by riri
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Shaw admits to a nagging fear of being "lynched in his hometown": Berkeley

What's amazing is nowhere does he mention creating a new government program or raising taxes. He must live in Berkeley because as a psychiatrist that's where his customers are.

5 posted on 08/31/2003 9:33:39 AM PDT by Reeses
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6 posted on 08/31/2003 9:34:39 AM PDT by Fraulein (TCB)
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Shaw's book, "The Epidemic: The Rot of American Culture, Absentee and Permissive Parenting, and the Resultant Plague of Joyless, Selfish Children,"

Wow. I may have to buy this book.

7 posted on 08/31/2003 9:38:17 AM PDT by independentmind
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Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.

10 posted on 08/31/2003 9:41:02 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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Bump for later.

Looks very interesting

11 posted on 08/31/2003 9:41:26 AM PDT by don-o
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Can you go to stores, restaurants or libraries without seeing these joyless children screaming, throwing food or pulling packages or books off shelves?

I see this almost everytime I go shopping or to certain restaurants; usually, the parents' solution is to buy the child something.

12 posted on 08/31/2003 9:43:14 AM PDT by independentmind
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My son was in daycare and then private school all his life. He was well-behaved and a good student in prvate school. He now has a good job and a wife who he met in private school.

At this late date, though, he complains about not having spent enough time with me as a child. His private school did have a lot of hoemwork, so a lot of our time together was spent working on that rather than fun activities.

Although he didn't act out after the terrible twos, I wonder now if my own boredom with the public schools as a child caused me to want something for him that he didn't really want. He is very athletic, and maybe he would have been happier with more sports and a shallower education. His sporting events away from school created transportation problems, so that if I was tied up he had to take a cab. In public school, he could have just got on the after-school bus like the band members and athletes did when I was a kid. Also in retrospect, he might have preferred the larger crowds n public school. I just assumed that, like me, he would tire of waiting for the slower students to keep up.

I think is a strange outcome of wanting something for your child that you wanted for yourself. He definitely was a privileged child, bu still he wanted more.

13 posted on 08/31/2003 9:44:49 AM PDT by angry elephant
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My son was in daycare and then private school all his life. He was well-behaved and a good student in prvate school. He now has a good job and a wife who he met in private school.

At this late date, though, he complains about not having spent enough time with me as a child. His private school did have a lot of hoemwork, so a lot of our time together was spent working on that rather than fun activities.

Although he didn't act out after the terrible twos, I wonder now if my own boredom with the public schools as a child caused me to want something for him that he didn't really want. He is very athletic, and maybe he would have been happier with more sports and a shallower education. His sporting events away from school created transportation problems, so that if I was tied up he had to take a cab. In public school, he could have just got on the after-school bus like the band members and athletes did when I was a kid. Also in retrospect, he might have preferred the larger crowds n public school. I just assumed that, like me, he would tire of waiting for the slower students to keep up.

I think is a strange outcome of wanting something for your child that you wanted for yourself. He definitely was a privileged child, bu still he wanted more.

14 posted on 08/31/2003 9:44:57 AM PDT by angry elephant
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BUMP
15 posted on 08/31/2003 9:51:27 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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Great article - worth the long read. How many of us know children like he describes? Can think of 8-9 myself which is sad.
16 posted on 08/31/2003 9:56:08 AM PDT by Gerish
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17 posted on 08/31/2003 10:00:58 AM PDT by Johnbalaya
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"Palatable labels ranging from "high-energy" to "hyperactive" to "temperamental" to "oppositional" are bandied about like personality traits that must be tolerated."

Ummm..."personality traits" such as those mentioned were NOT tolerated when I grew up! After a nasty bout of 'oppositional' or 'temperamental', I found myself wanting to just stand up rather than sit...for about a week, usually. My mama's 'medicine' was stout stuff.
20 posted on 08/31/2003 10:20:52 AM PDT by Maria S ("..I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end" Uday H.)
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BUMP!

22 posted on 08/31/2003 10:38:17 AM PDT by stands2reason
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This guy has alot of nerve!!
What gives him the right to dictate how parents should raise their kids?
He's just damn lucky I agree with him.
I often wonder about the root cause of all these teenagers being into pain (X-treme sports, jackass, etc.) I think it is a cry out to their parents who are too busy for them.
There are alot of things my kids want...but nothing that they need.
25 posted on 08/31/2003 11:22:39 AM PDT by baltodog (As for me, I gonna' be a pimp!)
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From that sleep-deprived decision in the wee hours that it's easier to let a toddler come into bed with you than not,

For an alternative (which we did) check out

Co-Sleeping Another Way to Promote Infant Health

28 posted on 08/31/2003 11:41:00 AM PDT by don-o
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Thanks for bringing this terrific book to my attention. I'm saving it for when my daughter decides to start a family of her own. I cannot go in public without witnessing these out-of-control kids and their complacent parents that he describes. I was traveling last week, for example, and as i was waiting in the airport gate area, a woman with 2 kids (about 6 and 8) was totally ignoring the fact that her kids were running all around, screaming, throwing things. When she finally looked up, it was only to pat them on the heads like they were terribly clever. I was seriously ready to go over to her and tell her that she was raising rude children who had no consideration for others. That's just one example of the stuff i see every day. Something's terribly wrong with many of today's parents.
29 posted on 08/31/2003 11:43:29 AM PDT by MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
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Teachers everywhere report that children are arriving ill-equipped to engage in school because they lack focus, purpose, connection, an ability to fit into a rules system and a desire to learn.

After a summer running a tutoring program for 25 kids I can definitely attest to this.

30 posted on 08/31/2003 11:48:01 AM PDT by mafree
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