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The Truth About What's Happening In Iraq
boblonsberry.com ^ | 8/28/03 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 08/28/2003 6:23:09 AM PDT by shortstop

The war in Iraq isn’t being lost in Baghdad. It’s being lost in America.

In Iraq, it’s going quite well. In America, we’re too stupid to realize that.

So let me explain.

These idiots on the news who count each fatality from the announced end of major fighting are doing more to hurt the cause than all the suicide bombers in Baghdad. One uses explosives and the other uses lies.

The kind of lies that are told by diversion and distortion.

The simple fact is that of course we have sustained more casualties since the actual battle stopped. On the battlefield, they were on our turf. In Baghdad, we are on their turf.

We are a conventional military. Lots of tanks and troops and nobody can stand up to us. Rolling over the Iraqi military, we were in our element.

But in the chicken-crap terrorist world of shoot and run, the jihad boys are in their element.

When we were in a position of advantage our casualties were lower than they are when we are in a position of disadvantage.

So, naturally, we continue to take casualties.

Does that mean we’re losing?

Only if you need a blow dryer and a TelePrompTer to do your job.

I would point out that during the conquest of Iraq, we took over a nation, advanced hundreds of miles into enemy territory, toppled a military numbering in the hundreds of thousands, overthrew a government, took control of a good chunk of the world’s oil supply and put vast amounts of our power on the ground in somebody else’s country.

On the other hand, in their guerilla war, the jihad boys have accomplished not a freaking thing.

We still own the nation, we still own the oil, we’re still in charge, they’re still out of power, we still operate freely a long way from home.

They’re like a dog chasing a car. Lots of noise, plenty of bravado, not a damn bit of difference.

So the daily television score of who died when means nothing, except as a needless insult to the families of brave Americans 100 times more noble than the pretty boys on TV.

Here’s another lie: There is no link between Iraq and terrorism.

In fact, the war with Iraq is one of our most important tools in protecting America from terrorists.

Here’s how: Before we went into Iraq, the target of international Muslim terrorism was American civilians in the United States. Since we went into Iraq, the target of international Muslim terrorism has been American servicemen in Iraq.

Good.

More than good. Wonderful.

Thousands of these jihad boys, all coked up on their gutter religion, have streamed into Iraq to be martyrs against the infidels.

Good. The more the merrier.

On September 11 they attacked us where we were weak. Now we’ve tricked them into attacking us where we are strong.

The idiots.

Think about it. Their objective was to attack women and children, businesspeople and flight attendants, in our homeland.

So we changed the venue.

We started breaking the furniture in their neighborhood.

Now all the little Osamas are sneaking into Iraq to take on G.I. Joe.

You pick: Do you want them attacking unarmed citizens in America, or trained and equipped soldiers in Iraq?

Personally, I like our odds now a lot better.

Personally, I think it’s worthwhile and successful. In every battle there are casualties, even in a battle like this. That is to be accepted and understood.

Two facts that escape the self-appointed gods of the media.

Many have died and more will do the same. But each will have sacrificed to directly protect the United States of America and its people. There is a direct link between Iraq and terrorism against America.

The link: As long as we tie the savages up in Iraq, they won’t be coming after our families back home.

Score that a win.

And anybody who says different doesn’t know his head from a hole in the ground.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Lonsberry knocks another one out of the park.

Except that in the course of countering the lies, he's buying one of the bigger ones. The COMBAT deaths since the end of the war are considerably BELOW the deaths during the war. Those who are throwing around the phony statistics are adding the combat and non-combat deaths.

141 posted on 08/28/2003 11:53:57 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Coop
Did you read the article or not?

142 posted on 08/28/2003 11:55:55 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
What does 'I' have to do with the article of this thread?

Did you even read it?

143 posted on 08/28/2003 11:58:19 AM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: JohnGalt
I read it. My comments support it. You don't seem to comprehend it.
144 posted on 08/28/2003 12:00:01 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard
Names?

What are you talking about? The same incompetent idiots who allowed 9/11 to happen are still incharge. There were no resignation not one, proving that there is no honor in this government.

I mean how does someone like Condi Rice with the title National Security Advisor still have a job after 9/11? You'd think amongst these Republicans one would have the honor to simply resign just to maintain the image that these people consider it there job to protect us, not simply win elections.
145 posted on 08/28/2003 12:00:53 PM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: shortstop
DAMMMM That lonsberry nails it AGAIN

I listen to his radio show out of Rochester NY and he is excellent. (1180 AM radio 12-2 befor rush)
146 posted on 08/28/2003 12:01:58 PM PDT by Mr. K (mwk_14059 on yahoo IM - why dont we have a FR chat yet Jim? (i can give you the code))
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To: JohnGalt
The same incompetent idiots who allowed 9/11 to happen

Names? List of actions which demonstrate incompetence? You're making the accusations, you could at least be specific. Got anything more than hot air?

147 posted on 08/28/2003 12:04:19 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard
BTW, you didn't address the content of my post, which supports the author's thesis. Where would you rather fight? On you own turf, on on the enemy's?
148 posted on 08/28/2003 12:05:18 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: JohnGalt
#148's for you.
149 posted on 08/28/2003 12:06:13 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard
While we're doing patriotic poems, I call attenton to one of my favorites:

Barbara Frietchie , by John Greenleaf Whittier (1807-1892)

(The poem aptly captures the strength, spirit and heroism of American women
in the defense of our homeland and flag in an earlier era -- at about this time of year.)



Up from the meadows rich with corn,
Clear in the cool September morn,

The clustered spires of Frederick stand
Green-walled by the hills of Maryland.

Round about them orchards sweep,
Apple and peach tree fruited deep,

Fair as the garden of the Lord
To the eyes of the famished rebel horde,

On that pleasant morn of early fall
When Lee marched over the mountain wall;

Over the mountains winding down,
Horse and foot, into Frederick town.

Forty flags with their silver stars
Forty flag with their crimson bars,

Flapped in the morning wind; the sun
Of noon looked down, and saw not one.

Up rose old Barbara Frietchie then,
Bowed with her fourscore years and ten;

Bravest of all in Frederick town,
She took up the flag the men hauled down;

In her attic window the staff she set,
To show that one heart was loyal yet.

Up the street came the rebel tread,
Stonewall Jackson riding ahead.

Under his slouched hat left and right
He glanced; the old flag met his sight.

"Halt!" - the dust-brown ranks stood fast.
"Fire!" - out blazed the rifle-blast.

It shivered the window, pane and sash;
It rent the banner with seam and gash.

Quick, as it fell, from the broken staff
Dame Barbara snatched the silken scarf.

She leaned far out on the window-sill,
And shook it forth with a royal will.

"Shoot, if you must, this old gray head,
But spare your country's flag," she said.

A shade of sadness, a blush of shame,
Over the face of the leader came;

The nobler nature within him stirred
To life at that woman's deed and word;

"Who touches a hair of yon gray head
Dies like a dog! March on!" he said.

All day long through Frederick street
Sounded the tread of marching feet;

All day long that free flag tost
Over the heads of the rebel host.

Ever its torn folds rose and fell
On the loyal winds that loved it well;

And through the hill-gaps sunset light
Shone over it with a warm good-night.

Barbara Frietchie's work is o'er,
And the Rebel rides on his raids no more.

Honor to her! and let a tear
Fall, for her sake, on Stonewall's bier.

Over Barbara Frietchie's grave,
Flag of Freedom and Union, wave!

Peace and order and beauty draw
Round thy symbol of light and law;

And ever the stars above look down
On thy stars below in Frederick town!

150 posted on 08/28/2003 12:06:39 PM PDT by Emily Lattila
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To: ArrogantBustard
Do you work for the government or collect a government pension?

Amazing, you watch government incompetence in action on tv and yet you say the very people who'se jobe it is to prevent 9/11 are blameless? Nah, me thinks you collect a gubmint check.

George Tennet
Louis Freeh
Condi Rice
Sandy Berger
Head of the INS
Head of the FBI
Head of the FAA
Head of the SEC
Head of the DoD
Head of the NSA (that would be National Security Agency)

And that's just department heads. I'd like to have an investigation that generates the names of the actual paper shuffler who stamped Atta's papers and strip their pension and disgrace them thrice over what a decent whistle blower, Linda Tripp, received.
151 posted on 08/28/2003 12:11:58 PM PDT by JohnGalt (For Democracy, any man would give his only begotten son.)
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To: Coop
Coop, ur wasting bandwidth, Clintscum operates in a vacuum, (the space between his ears provides the vacuum) if he does attempt to answer, it will be an EMPTY ECHO… ECHO…echo… echo… tink echo… echo… echo… echo…
152 posted on 08/28/2003 12:16:18 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (8 years in Clintons Military, didn't accept affirmative action)
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To: JohnGalt
BTW, you didn't address the content of my post, which supports the author's thesis. Where would you rather fight? On you own turf, on on the enemy's?

On Sept. 11, 2001, I saw an attack on the USA. I did not see "government incompetence". I see from your list that you don't know the job of some of your names, nor the name of holder of some of your jobs, nor the specific actions they should have taken but did not. IOW, you're just knee-jerk reacting. That's more or less what I thought.

I'd like to have an investigation that generates the names of the actual paper shuffler who stamped Atta's papers and strip their pension and disgrace them thrice over
What law did this "paper-shuffler" violate? Please be specific.

153 posted on 08/28/2003 12:30:20 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: Peach
I know that stay-behinds on Guam fought for at least a year after the end of the war, in squad sized formations, ambushing unwary Americans. That's not widely known either.
154 posted on 08/28/2003 1:10:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks for the information. I'm probably working on an unconvincable Freeper, but never say Uncle!
155 posted on 08/28/2003 1:11:36 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: JohnGalt
Did you read the article or not?

Yep

156 posted on 08/28/2003 1:13:42 PM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: JohnGalt
I mean how does someone like Condi Rice with the title National Security Advisor still have a job after 9/11?

Sandy Berger was in charge during most of the 9/11 operational planning. He is no longer in that office.

157 posted on 08/28/2003 1:14:44 PM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Great post!
158 posted on 08/28/2003 1:57:09 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Jim Noble
The American people are not prepared to pay the price

Why do you say that?
159 posted on 08/29/2003 5:37:52 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: T Minus Four
Thanks for the ping. I don't always agree with Bob but his points were 'spot-on'.
160 posted on 08/29/2003 5:30:23 PM PDT by batter (Boycott "Made in China")
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