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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: dandelion
This is turning into a real successful freep. The free flow of ideas and sharing of information hopefully will benefit Terri. I can't believe all the brainiacs here at Free Republic. I am not worthy.
501 posted on 08/31/2003 8:22:52 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
You are instrumental to this effort - you have been a steadfast and inspirational friend in this fight. Thank you!!
502 posted on 08/31/2003 8:33:48 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: dandelion
Thanks. Guess I'm driving this bus. LOL
503 posted on 08/31/2003 8:35:39 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
yes, my dear you are. You've certainly inspired me. As have all the others here. Let's hope "they" are lurking. If they are -- here's a message:

WE WILL NOT BACK DOWN. Terri's life is precious to our Lord and to us and we will do everything within our power to help her. And DON'T underestimate our power. With God we can do anything. You may think getting Terri 'out of the way' will do it. Dead men tell no tales and all that, but Jeb Bush got 27,000 e-mails and we can only imagine the actual number of concerned people who WON'T GIVE UP. You can't get us all. And even if you could, God sees what you do. He knows your heart of hearts, and he still moves mountains.

504 posted on 08/31/2003 8:40:36 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: floriduh voter
"I have found Terri's threads to be flame-free. That's never happened to my recollection."

Oh, I agree with you, FV! After reading the complaint (post 464), I found that it confirms most of the information presented on the 'Terri' threads. Nothing here to flame.

Guess I was thinking more in terms of opposition research that might be in progress. LOL. For that matter, the complaint covered many of the issues FReepers have mentioned here.

Yes, I have the HHS phone number. I was in the process of reading the linked memo from HHS when I checked back to see what was going on.

Pray for Terri to survive until (at least) Tuesday. Don't you think that without the will to live she would have been gone years ago?
505 posted on 08/31/2003 8:41:31 PM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
Pray for Terri to survive until (at least) Tuesday. Don't you think that without the will to live she would have been gone years ago?

I rarely cry, but when I knelt at the altar today in church to pray for Terri I did. Boy, God's really hit a nerve in me with her story. He's really laid her all on my heart. Occasionally during the day I catch myself just crying out to him -- INTERVENE...INTERVENE...INTERVENE! Rarely do I get hit so hard by anything. I have the normal concerns and do have many burdens -- but boy, the Lord really smacked me in the face with this one.

506 posted on 08/31/2003 8:56:22 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: agrace
I opened it in a new browser, went and had dinner and just came back about 1 hour later. It's fine now, opened completely. Will leave open and read in the am, thanks again for the link.

Great! I'm glad it worked - there is some really interesting info in it.

507 posted on 08/31/2003 9:06:54 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: floriduh voter; Ragtime Cowgirl; summer
Bump!

Woo Hoo! Great job to you all!

I will be buring my fax and phone for this on Tuesday!

BUMP!!!

508 posted on 08/31/2003 9:12:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: kimmie7
I think the reason Terri has touched all our hearts is that we are able to empathize with the situation. The helplessness of Terri and her family is profoundly felt and the responsibility of trying to DO something is readily accepted.

Your care and concern for Terri are reflected in the work you've done on this thread, Kimmie. So much prayer and goodwill being sent in her direction is bound to have positive results!

Prayers for Terri and for you, too.
509 posted on 08/31/2003 9:19:34 PM PDT by windchime
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To: iowamomforfreedom
Thank you so much for providing the link to the complaint! Felos is a total loon!! I hope they strip him of his license! I am really praying about this hearing night and day. Also praying that Terri is strong enough to pull through this ordeal. She certainly has a strong will to live! God bless Terri and her family at this very critical juncture!

Also mentions that the guardian ad-litem, Pearse, was gotten rid of because Felos didn't like what he had to say in his affidavit!

That's right! Pearse said that Schiavo had a conflict of interest as Terri's guardian! (I believe at that point in time it was commonly known that Schiavo was already living with his "fiancee" who was already pregnant.) At least there was one honest lawyer. Too bad the judge was crooked!

510 posted on 08/31/2003 9:36:36 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: All
Boy, God's really hit a nerve in me with her story. He's really laid her all on my heart.

You've just said how I've been feeling about Terri, too! I'm so thankful that God has brought so many people together on behalf of Terri and her family. Someone mentioned in another post much earlier how our prayers are like incense raising up to the Lord. That is truly what this feels like to me, and I know God is watching and is smiling. But He wants us to keep going and not give up because this is just too important! Those of you who are doing all this wonderful investigating and petitioning,etc. are doing a GREAT job! My hat's off to you, 'cause you obviously have skills that I don't! God bless FReepers and God bless the Schindlers!

511 posted on 08/31/2003 9:57:07 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Ohioan from Florida
I've got goose bumps. If this many people on one website feel this way, imagine how many God's tapped on the shoulder around the world. Some people don't even know who or what they're praying for. They just know to pray. "AIN'T GOD GRAND!!!!
512 posted on 08/31/2003 10:07:46 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: kimmie7
He's the absolute BEST!
513 posted on 08/31/2003 10:23:39 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: kimmie7
BTW, I keep forgetting to ask you to put me on Terri's ping list. Thanks in advance!
514 posted on 08/31/2003 10:28:01 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Wellllllll........ I kinda figured you'd want on, so I put you on earlier this morning. ;-)
515 posted on 08/31/2003 10:32:25 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: RedRidingHood; yhwhsman; TheSpottedOwl; pc93; dandelion; GHCubana; iowamomforfreedom; Lovergirl; ...
See my post 493 in this thread....

I think this is rather telling and could be an indicator of some really low-life "right to die" type stuff going on at Suncoast.

Of 264 cases active in the Suncoast hospice over 210 days when Operation Restore Trust did their review, 176 were not eligible for hospice coverage and for 118 they were unable to conclusively determine their terminal illness. That's 44.69%!

Compare this to only 78 cases in San Diego in which 37 were ineligible and only 19 for which they were unable to determine terminal illness. 24%

Compare this also to Dallas with only 26 active cases in which 20 were not eligible, and only 2 for which "medical records... were insufficient to conclusively determine a life expectancy of 6 months or less, as required by Medicare. 7.69%

I have the .pdf files of each of the reports citing these numbers. I got them from the Health and Human Services Office of the Inspector General's website.

I'm telling you, something is really fishy at Suncoast.

516 posted on 08/31/2003 10:54:05 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I need more time, more coffee, and more bandwidth.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Too bad the judge was crooked!

This is what's so scary about this situation. There are so many looney lawyers out there, but I always felt that the judicial system would work. This has opened my eyes to what kind of nightmare can result from biased, crooked judges that abuse their power. I hope the Floridians get rid of this guy next year, but I shudder to think of how many more Judge Greers are out there.

517 posted on 08/31/2003 11:00:13 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: kimmie7
Nice work Kimmie7!

It would make me real happy to see Suncoast driven into the ground.
518 posted on 08/31/2003 11:06:45 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
I concur! Maybe it's just the hour getting to me, but...Kimmie for President...or Governor...or Judge...or...GO, KIMMIE, GO!!!!
519 posted on 08/31/2003 11:12:56 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Don Joe
I would prefer to believe pc93 is of good heart.

Nonetheless, because I and most are not psychic, it is better to work from known quantities than hope that an unknown quantity isn't a threat.

"...who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men" ( a theme from a East Coast mystery radio show "The Fat Man" I listened to as a child). On the internet this is sage advise.

520 posted on 08/31/2003 11:17:03 PM PDT by Robert Drobot
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