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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

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HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: Polycarp
If you haven't done this yet, please do so now.
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Which?
4,021 posted on 09/15/2003 8:03:28 PM PDT by pc93 (Mandate 2nd District Court of Appeals can still be followed after Terri gets her rehabilitation)
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To: MarMema
Thanks for posting the poll, MarMema. My reaction was one of revulsion when I first saw the poll, too. My thinking was we could let the pro-euthanasia group run away with it or fight back.

I hope the feedback makes TBO decide to take the poll down so that we are not forced to view the online exhibition of the callousness and gullibility of humanity.
4,022 posted on 09/15/2003 8:04:22 PM PDT by windchime
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To: Theodore R.
I hope Greer's father had a more peaceful death than the one Greer plans for Terri.

It seems as if Greer's father was a native of PA (Arthur A. Greer, last residence Dunedin FL, born 2 Nov 1925, d.  9 Sep 2000, had lived in PA. ) I think this is the "Old Neighborhood" for the Greers...

Cochranton Borough was created by order of the Court of Quarter Sessions April 5, 1855, [snip]. The first election was held April 14, 1855, when James Greer was elected Burgess

4,023 posted on 09/15/2003 8:05:49 PM PDT by syriacus (Did Mike Schiavo buy mobiles to place over the crib of his baby? What did he buy for Terri?)
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To: syriacus
WOW! What an eye and mind you have, syriacus!!
4,024 posted on 09/15/2003 8:07:36 PM PDT by windchime
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4,025 posted on 09/15/2003 8:07:45 PM PDT by pc93 (Mandate 2nd District Court of Appeals can still be followed after Terri gets her rehabilitation)
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To: pc93
Whichever you asked me to ping my Catholic list to? I think the thread in general?
4,026 posted on 09/15/2003 8:09:04 PM PDT by Polycarp ("women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness" 1Tim2:15)
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Heavenly Father, we return to acknowledge that You are God ... that You are sovereign, and Your ways are unknowable. Such is this time, Lord, for I cannot see the way in which You would have us go, but may we rest content in the knowledge that You are at work in the life of Terri Schiavo. Give strength and courage to all who labor on her behalf ... give wisdom beyond measure to all those who speak on her behalf ... and give victory to all those who seek a continuation of her life.

Father, I would again ask that You would stay the hands of all those who would do her harm ... may they be caught in webs of their own making ... by Your grace, may they see the error of their ways, and repent.

Bless these dear FReepers who are using their talents of research and persuasion and networking and prayer and fasting and encouragement ... reward them in the knowledge that their work is noble and their cause is just ... and, Father, we so want Terri returned to those who love her, that she might be restored in some measure. May the earthly Judges become weary with our petitions, and grant our request, for it is in the precious name of Jesus, I pray, Amen ...

4,027 posted on 09/15/2003 8:10:09 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Polycarp
Whichever you asked me to ping my Catholic list to? I think the thread in general?
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Ah! Ok.. yes. Welcome!
4,028 posted on 09/15/2003 8:10:38 PM PDT by pc93 (Mandate 2nd District Court of Appeals can still be followed after Terri gets her rehabilitation)
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4,029 posted on 09/15/2003 8:12:16 PM PDT by pc93 (Mandate 2nd District Court of Appeals can still be followed after Terri gets her rehabilitation)
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To: Theodore R.
Florida's more concerned that the Bucs lost on Sunday. But, on line polls can be skewed. If we went there which we don't have time to do, the numbers would turn out differently.

Those who voted against Terri are just skimming headlines which are usually inaccurate.

4,030 posted on 09/15/2003 8:14:12 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: blueriver
".....on and on and on about the Peterson trial but not once mention a case where a murder is being planned. It all too pat. We are being led down a very very dark tunnel."


There might be media discussion after the deed is done to make it more palatable. Conditioning, you know.



4,031 posted on 09/15/2003 8:15:15 PM PDT by windchime
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To: Theodore R.
Pinellas was won by Al Gore in 2000. I think the GOP recovered with Jeb in 2002 but don't have any stats. Hillsborough is more Republican than Pinellas is nowadays.

Orlando is the center of the insurance business in Florida. Maybe some insurance people aren't so bad after all.

4,032 posted on 09/15/2003 8:18:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Theodore R.
Pinellas was won by Al Gore in 2000. I think the GOP recovered with Jeb in 2002 but don't have any stats. Hillsborough is more Republican than Pinellas is nowadays.

Orlando is the center of the insurance business in Florida. Maybe some insurance people aren't so bad after all.

4,033 posted on 09/15/2003 8:18:51 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: blueriver
".....after the deed is done..."

I did not intend to indicate resignation to the worst, but to state a time the media might be willing to discuss.
4,034 posted on 09/15/2003 8:20:38 PM PDT by windchime
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To: floriduh voter
I do not know what paper is in Orlando - but in Pinnellas most people read the St. Petersbugh Times. Which I believe is owned by the New York Times. This may help explain the bias in Pinnellas.
4,035 posted on 09/15/2003 8:25:29 PM PDT by blueriver
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To: blueriver
Greta would probably say that if the Republicans in FL want to starve Terri Schindler to death, then that's "states rights."

Of course, in most other situations, she would scorn "states rights" as racism, homophobia, sexism, etc.

And she comes from the hometown of Joe McCarthy. Yet she knows nothing about smear campaigns against the innocent.
4,036 posted on 09/15/2003 8:26:13 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: blueriver
Orlando Sun-Sentinel

The columnist Charley Reese used to be on the staff there. He is an iconoclast who first opposed the clintons, now opposes Bush II.
4,037 posted on 09/15/2003 8:26:59 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: blueriver
Does Pinellas Co. has a noticeable Russian-American population in that the city of St. Petersburg is named for the former Leningrad?
4,038 posted on 09/15/2003 8:28:07 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: windchime
This case is about to explode in our face. If Greer won't allow her to have even a week to relearn to swallow food and water, she will dehydrate. Of course, she may be unable to swallow even with months of efforts.

And, furthermore, even if she could swallow, she can't pick up the food or water to put it to her lips. And the Schiavo bodyguards won't allow her to be fed by hand.

This is a sick state of affairs. I will never hold FL in anything but scorn again.

I cannot imagine the hell the Schindlers have been through for so long. The powers that be in FL seem unconcerned about the turmoil caused to this family. How they must wish they had stayed in PA!
4,039 posted on 09/15/2003 8:31:08 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: blueriver
Orlando - Orlando Sentinel.
4,040 posted on 09/15/2003 8:33:39 PM PDT by pc93 (Mandate 2nd District Court of Appeals can still be followed after Terri gets her rehabilitation)
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