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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: floriduh voter
Is there a special election TODAY in Pinellas?
2,721 posted on 09/10/2003 7:57:19 AM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
Well, since he works for Charlie Crist, even within those boundaries, he and Crist could have discussed this case legally. They're both good men. Crist, future Governor of Florida. Just wait and see. I'll use my Crist sign from 2002.
2,722 posted on 09/10/2003 8:00:03 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter
I wondered if he might be serving in some official capacity from the Attorney General's office, not for Charlie Crist, politician.

WORMS, did someone say WORMS??! That's all we're finding in this dirt.
2,723 posted on 09/10/2003 8:00:22 AM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
No elections as far as I know. Judge Greer is set for tomorrow's hearing to set the date. Demonstrators will be there too.

I wonder if world net daily has this up yet. They're working on an update. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/

2,724 posted on 09/10/2003 8:02:20 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: syriacus
MICHAEL SCHIAVO "Wants no more delays."

FELOS: "Desperation in this case."

Who's calling the kettle black? per wfla radio 970

2,725 posted on 09/10/2003 8:04:04 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: windchime
This thread could easily be called "AH HA!" or "EUREKA!".
2,726 posted on 09/10/2003 8:06:20 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: windchime
http://www.naplesnews.com/03/07/florida/d943339a.htm

Special election set for seat of Rep. Carassas, who resigned

Friday, July 18, 2003

Associated Press

TALLAHASSEE — A special election was called by Gov. Jeb Bush on Wednesday to fill the House seat left vacant when John Carassas, R-Belleair, resigned to head Attorney General Charlie Crist's Tampa office.

Carassas resigned in late June.

Bush said the special primary election for House District 54 would be held Sept. 9, with a special general election to be held Oct. 7.

The districts runs from Clearwater Beach to St. Pete Beach along the Pinellas County coastline.

Carassas, a former city attorney in Clearwater, was first elected to the House in 2000, Carassas was most notable in the Legislature as an ardent supporter of the state's open records laws, voting against nearly every attempt to close off records to public inspection.
2,727 posted on 09/10/2003 8:08:26 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: floriduh voter
I'm WAY WRONG. Today is the 10th! This has TOTALLY absorbed my mind. St. Pete Times has no report on an election.

2,728 posted on 09/10/2003 8:09:11 AM PDT by windchime
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To: windchime
Well, I did tell Carassas' staffer that Florida's exit protocols violated the constitution and the ADA. Whether he's working with the Fla. AG or not, Crist has a Civil Rights Dept. established as part of his department. They do not take ADA or Civil Rights matters lightly.

Crist is a renaissance republican. Crist won because he has wide appeal and he's got a next-door neighbor quality about him. Carassas is the same way. Both are from Tampa Bay and Go Bucs!

2,729 posted on 09/10/2003 8:11:19 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter
'Feet swift to run to evil' ...

MICHAEL SCHIAVO "Wants no more delays."

FELOS: "Desperation in this case."

When men are doing evil, they want it done and out of view as quickly as possible. Deep in his heart, Schiavo knows he's murdering an innocent human being, but the darkness covering his soul urges him to be swift and sure. Felos, on the other hand, is consciously seeking to be a purveyor of killing, for his own empowerment as an advocate of 'mercy killing'.

As with all my posts, this is my own opinion ... before someone assumes chastisement is called to protect FR.

2,730 posted on 09/10/2003 8:11:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
Aahhh! Thank you. Special PRIMARY election 9/9 and GENERAL special election 10/7.

It still doesn't state in what capacity he's working in Crist's office. Hmmm. I can't find anything on Assistant Attorney General.
2,731 posted on 09/10/2003 8:12:53 AM PDT by windchime
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To: iowamomforfreedom
If Carassas is a champion of "open records", it would stick in his craw (sp) that a Judge talked to him about his angst over Gov. Bush.

Why is this matter turning into an episode of Dallas? This could so be a movie but I'm slightly off topic.

2,732 posted on 09/10/2003 8:13:46 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: syriacus
Unreal. Just when I think I can't hear any more outrageous details.
2,733 posted on 09/10/2003 8:14:54 AM PDT by agrace
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To: iowamomforfreedom
Well, it appears he's in my district and he's still on the job. No wonder they listened to me. I have no idea who's campaigning to fill his seat. They aren't running a very good campaign if they aren't doing ads yet.
2,734 posted on 09/10/2003 8:16:47 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: windchime
Remember myflorida.com? That's the best place to check on the Fla. AG and their Tampa Office. Maybe the Tampa Office is a new branch?
2,735 posted on 09/10/2003 8:18:39 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: Theodore R.
Pride?

2,736 posted on 09/10/2003 8:20:25 AM PDT by agrace
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To: MHGinTN
"'Feet swift to run to evil' ..."


And, to paraphrase, Governor Bush's letter asked Judge Greer to pursue the more prudent course of an objective GAL, rather than the irreversible nutritional withdrawal.

Time and scrutiny are not Schiavo's friends, IMO.

2,737 posted on 09/10/2003 8:21:36 AM PDT by windchime
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To: MHGinTN
the darkness covering his soul urges him to be swift and sure.

Shakespeare put it this way: "If it were done, then twert well it were done quickly!"
2,738 posted on 09/10/2003 8:23:10 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: floriduh voter
I did take time to watch the BUCs. Jurevicious was awesome!
2,739 posted on 09/10/2003 8:24:46 AM PDT by windchime
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To: floriduh voter
You do know that Crist was decisively defeated in a Senate race by popular Sen. Robert Graham, D-FL, now one of the liberals seeking the Democrat presidential nomination.
2,740 posted on 09/10/2003 8:25:43 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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