Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:

Various ^ | August 28, 2003

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:

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I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter

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From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."

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Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."

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8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.

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(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

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The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)

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Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

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I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer

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..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

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HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

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I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

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Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter

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Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter

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Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

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Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us

[MarMema]

Guess they like Thursday for more Americans to die, for some reason..

Jason

[floriduh voter]

FYI: World Net Daily's story on today's Terri's breaking news IS NOT UP YET. They're still working on it. Check back later tonight at worldnetdaily.com.

Now, I really must be going. Really.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Schiavo on now. Says her parents are stalling.

They are trying to buy time, he says.

My God, what the hell do you expect them to do? Can you believe his arrogance? I think all these people connected with killing Terri have some kind of mental problem, or something....

[floriduh voter]

bttt. I'll be back.

[syriacus]

he pretends to worship highly Paramahansa Yogananda who was on the path of the heart or love yet he and the man he represents wants to have Terri murdered and not only that by starvation and dehydration

Brings to mind the phrase, "I love her to death."

[TheSpottedOwl]

There is some sinister connection here between Schiavo-Felos-Greer-the Sheriff that we can't figure out YET.

Well forgive me for stepping on anyone's toes, but has anyone considered that these men could be part of a certain fraternal order...the one with the "degrees of membership"? They take an oath to help their brothers out, I believe under pain of death.

[windchime]

Kimmie, when you're getting band-aids, you might look for a donut-shaped something to sit on that would relieve pressure on the bite area. We humans spend so much time sitting, even when we're not at the pc, that it would be hard to keep pressure off the injury.

[iowamomforfreedom]

Thanks agrace. Just catching up now.

Re: the excessive Florida weather reporting -can't complain about our weather. Sunny and pleasant, and been that way for about a week and a half. Just got back from the park with my daughter.

Dualing motions. This is just plain nuts.

[syriacus]

they are trying to buy time, he says.

What's the huge rush for?

Could it possibly be a good indicator???

Is it an indication that some folks think she could become more alert with even a tiny little bit of help?

Do they think she has been getting better mentally, even though she is weakening physically?

[pc93]

oops this is the latest with sept 9. commentary. i'm looking for ammendations, suggestions, etc. any contributing info that would make an impact.

Please communicate with your representatives about
this case and share it with as many people as you
can and ask that they in turn do the same. This is
happening right now. The Federal Courts (up to
this time, Sept. 9) have not stepped up to their
duty, responsibility, etc. of stopping the madness
even after the Federal and Constitutional laws are
being broken. Judge Lazzara took no action on
Sept. 2 even after hearing all the facts:

Judge Richard Lazzara said that the papers
introduced by Terri's parents attorney's were
quickly put together and that he doesn't know if
he has jurisdiction (he is a Federal Judge and the
Federal/Constitutional laws are being broken and
he doesn't know if he has jurisdiction! I guess he
doesn't know the power of the Federal level nor
the sanctity of Terri's right to life and the laws
that criminal Michael Schiavo and George J. Felos
are breaking re: The Constitution and George W.
Bush's American Disabilities Act, etc.!
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/adahom1.htm)

This is how Lazzara shirked his responsibilities
and dismissed what came to light at the Sept. 2
Emergency Hearing. He now wants a reformulation
which can be heard in 10 or 12 days. Terri
continues to be held hostage by these cruel men.

This is what Lazzara wanted them to discuss: The
parties shall be prepared to address the
jurisdiction of this Court in terms of the
doctrine of state action, the doctrine of
Rooker-Feldman.1 and whether the various federal
statutes relied on by the Plaintiffs apply in
light of the allegations of the complaint.

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1 See District of Columbia Court of Appeals v.
Feldman, 103 S. Ct. 1303 (1983); Rooker v.
Fidelity Trust Co., 4 S. Ct. 149 (1923).

I am of the opinion that he had better start
caring about helping Terri by getting guardianship
back to Terri's parents and by getting Michael
Schiavo away from Terri for good (by restraining
order or putting him in the slammer) or he may be
guilty of a Federal crime.

The state and federal courts in concert with
Michael Schiavo and George J. Felos have been
playing with this Terri's life like a yo-yo. She
needs to live and get the rehabilitation she so
dearly deserves. Much of the money which was never
spent on this which was won from a malpractice
lawsuit in the amount of $1,200,000 dollars has
gone to pay for George J. Felos'Attorney Fees and
who knows what else, etc. to end her life. This is
fraud in that the monies were sworn (in court and
under oath) to be spent on Terri's rehabilitation.
This is a criminal offense on Michael Schiavo's
part. His non-party co-conspirator George J. Felos
has collected over $550,000 in fees in his quest
to kill Terri, the monies of which have come from
the funds supposed to be used for Terri's
rehabilitation.

Apparently the first video clip in the news clip
is of Terri now. She is even raising her body
forward. Terri is not comatose nor is she in a
permanent vegetative state. This is a lie. See for
yourself:

http://webpages.charter.net/honeygrl/terri_schindler.asf

In the news clip they state this is about getting
her medical records. This is far from just getting
her medical records, see entire text below.


Concerning Sept. 11 at the Courthouse in Clearwater

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Loc: CLEARWATER COURTHOUSE
315 Court Street
Clearwater, FL 33756

Demonstrators are welcome to convene at the
Clearwater Courthouse on Court Street and Fort
Harrison in Clearwater, FL. Thursday, September
11, 2003 is the scheduled hearing when Judge Greer
is expected to select a date for termination of
Terri's nutrition and hydration.

The front lawn of the courthouse sits directly on
Fort Harrison. There is a large sidewalk (public
property) directly in front.

Bring signs. You can purchase poster board, black
paint and a small brush for under $5.00 total.
There is also reinforced poster board that does
well in a breeze or rainy conditions for a dime or
so more.

If you plan on attending, the hearing begins at
10.00 am. People begin to arrive for work at the
complex by 8.30 am. Additionally, traffic along
Fort Harrison is good and steady from 7.30 until
about 9.30, so any time is appropriate.

Though a public sidewalk is considered
encroachment, it is in front of a courthouse and
the police station is a stone's toss away, so a
PEACEFUL assembly is the only appropriate course.

Dress comfortably and bring a bottle of water.
It's certain to be warm. Be prepared to speak to
the media and know that they will be swarming that
day. Explain to them why you got involved, what it
means to you, why it causes you worry. No need to
try and wrestle with the legal proceedings.

There is a lot of foot traffic in front of the
courthouse as well. If someone stops and asks what
all the fuss is about, take a bit of time to chat
them up about Terri. They will probably thank you
for it. Direct them to the web site, if you think
of it.

Above all, the more the merrier. Understanding
that people have jobs, obligations, families and
bills to pay... if you can make the time, you are
welcome and appreciated.

Note: Any actions to show solidarity are welcome
if you can't make it please get together with
others for any media or other actions, etc. if you
are compelled.

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Revised commentary of Sept. 9:

Judge George Greer hasn't even visited Terri. Why
does he want to let criminal Michael Schiavo and
George Felos ->(the attorney who plans to use
Terri and his helping her exit her body via 'exit
protocol' as his upcoming [not with our help, with
our help it won't see the light of day!] project
in his next "new age" (his idea of New Age is
certainly warped) book - he pretends to worship
highly Paramahansa Yogananda who was on the path
of the heart or love yet he and the man he
represents wants to have Terri murdered and not
only that by starvation and dehydration - their
so-called "death with dignity"!)<- get away with
murder? George Greer says he is following a
mandate from the 2nd district court of appeals and
that Jeb can basically go to hell (putting his
letter in the file). The hands of the 2nd District
Court of Appeals, George Greer, and the Florida
Supreme Court will have Terri's blood on their
hands if Jeb doesn't step in and do something. Jeb
himself will have her blood on his hands if he
doesn't:

a) initiate a criminal investigation of Michael
Schiavo and George J. Felos and maybe even Greer
himself if Greer doesn't consider all the facts
brought out in the Emergency Federal Court Hearing

b) step in and suspend George Greer (again
considering all of the evidence that has come to
light in the Emergency Federal Court Hearing which
occurred on Sept. 2) concerning Michael Schiavo
and his non-party co-conspirator George Felos'
fraud) for his impropriety, gross negligence, etc.
if he goes ahead and sets a date for removal of
her feeding tube on Sept. 11 [we have the
reference to the Florida State law that this is
covered under and he has the power to suspend
Judge George Greer:

112.52 Removal of a public official when a method
is not otherwise provided.--

(1) When a method for removal from office is not
otherwise provided by the State Constitution or by
law, the Governor may by executive order suspend
from office an elected or appointed public
official, by whatever title known, who is indicted
or informed against for commission of any felony,
or for any misdemeanor arising directly out of his
or her official conduct or duties, and may fill
the office by appointment for the period of
suspension, not to extend beyond the term.

(2) During the period of the suspension, the
public official shall not perform any official
act, duty, or function or receive any pay,
allowance, emolument, or privilege of office.

(3) If convicted, the public official may be
removed from office by executive order of the
Governor. For the purpose of this section, any
person who pleads guilty or nolo contendere or who
is found guilty shall be deemed to have been
convicted, notwithstanding the suspension of
sentence or the withholding of adjudication. (4)
If the public official is acquitted or found not
guilty, or the charges are otherwise dismissed,
the Governor shall by executive order revoke the
suspension; and the public official shall be
entitled to full back pay and such other
emoluments or allowances to which he or she would
have been entitled had he or she not been
suspended.

History.--s. 1, ch. 80-333; s. 720, ch. 95-147.]

c) call an emergency session in the legislature to
find a way to help Terri by creating a new law or
by amending the law regarding 'exit protocol' etc.

So get on your phones to your reps, to Jeb and to
Attorney General Charlie Crist, to President Bush
and Attorney General John Ashcroft (regarding the
federal crimes that have broken) to initiate a
criminal investigation and to stop this madness,
for them to give guardianship back to Terri's
parents where it belongs (they want to give her
the rehabilitation). Michael promised Terri's
rehabilitation but once he got the $1,200,000 he
suddenly remembered that Terri said she wouldn't
want to live by any "artificial" means. Not only
did he have no proof (only hearsay) but this
tactic was purely for him to be able to try to get
Terri starved to death. He refused to let her have
swallow tests, etc. or get any rehabilitation. He
didn't get her wheelchair repaired. He didn't take
her outside, etc. What kind of person would do
this? Only a person who has criminal intent on
murder. Now he is trying to get away with this
under the law and George Greer is happily playing
into his hand with the help of George J. Felos.
Terri is disabled and not in a "permanent
vegetative state" (PVS) nor is she in a coma. Any
judge in his right mind would be able to see past
the trickery of Michael Schiavo and George J.
Felos! Michael Schiavo and George J. Felos, etc.
need to pay dearly for their crimes. Terri needs
to live and as before stated get the
rehabilitation she so dearly needs. With your help
perhaps we can stop IMHO "these criminals" in
their tracks.

Latest: Motion to Disqualify Judge George Greer:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/Motion%20to%20Disqualify%20George%20Greer.txt

(Will he recuse himself? or will he continue with
the non-deserved death sentence and become an
accessory to murder?)

Below are just some of the mentioned contacts. You
can expand on this by contacting your friends,
reps, media, etc. as well. What is sought is a
geometrical response that will certainly help
Terri to live and get her rehabilitation, etc. and
under the guardianship of those who love her:
namely her parents. Also her brother and sister
love her very much and love her just as dearly as
her parents. Michael Schiavo on the other hand has
a child by another woman and another on the way!
Can anyone say conflict of interest!? and intent
to kill? He was in it for the money and he is
definitely trying to hide something! now that "the
money is gone." <- according to George J. Felos
(his IMHO good for nothing attorney).

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A criminal investigation needs to be conducted by
John Ashcroft. Please demand of President Bush to
initiate an investigation so that Mr. Ashcroft can
get involved:

President George W. Bush
c/o
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20500
Voice: (202)456-1111
Switchboard: (202)456-1414
Fax: (202)456-2461
TTY/TDD
Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121

Although you'll get an automated response, here
are the e-mails for GW and Cheney:

President George W. Bush:
president@whitehouse.gov

Vice President Richard Cheney:
vice.president@whitehouse.gov

Note: Since there is only one FAX number so far
known to our campaign, it's likely we will easily
jam it during the peak time. So if you cannot get
through this FAX line, an alternative way to send
our message to the President is EXPRESS MAIL - the
fast delivery service.

There are 4 major express mail systems in the U.S.:

1. Federal Express (http://www.fedex.com/), a
private company offering worldwide express mail
service. Its phone numbers and "drop off
locations" are listed in the white page of most
local phone book under the entry of "FEDERAL
EXPRESS" (see above URL first). It can also
pick up your outgoing mail at your door by
calling the service.

2. UPS (http://www.ups.com/) also offers next day
service and also next day early a.m. delivery
(as does Fed Ex). You can go to any Mailboxes,
Etc. store which are now named The UPS Store
(http://www.theupsstore.com/).

3. DHL express mail company, also a worldwide
service. But I can't find its info from my
local phone book.

4. Regular U.S. post offices also provide express
mail service - next day delivery. You can bring
your mail to your local post office or call for
a pickup at your door for $4 per pickup.
Letters submitted as express mail are
guaranteed to reach the destination the next
day.

Generally speaking Federal Express' service is
better than the Post Office, of course, at a
little higher price.


United States Attorney General John Ashcroft:
(AskDOJ@usdoj.gov)
Fax:202/514-1009

U.S. Senate:

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

A similar criminal investigation on the Florida
State level needs to be initiated by Jeb Bush:

(jeb@myflorida.com, jeb.bush@myflorida.com)

While more action should be taken besides the
on-line petition to Florida Governor Jeb Bush
please do use this as one means of acting:

On-line Petition: http://www.friendsofterri.org/pet.html

Jeb Bush, Governor
Voice: (850)488-4441
Voice: (850)488-7146
Fax: (850)487-0801
Executive Office of the Governor
400 S. Monroe Street
The Capitol
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0001

and his Attorney General
Charlie Crist (ag@oag.state.fl.us).
Office of Attorney General Charlie Crist
State of Florida
The Capitol PL-01
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
Main office telephone numbers
Voice: 850-414-3990
Fax: (850)487-2564


Please act now.

Juan Schoch
Concerned Florida Resident
United States Citizen

Refer to these links:

http://www.terrisfight.org
http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/FedCourtDktCaseNo8_03-cv-1860-T-26TGW.txt

[trustandobey]

Or could it be that we are making headway? He has got to be spending some pretty sleepless nites himself.

[Deo volente]

"Well forgive me for stepping on anyone's toes, but has anyone considered that these men could be part of a certain fraternal order...the one with the "degrees of membership"?"


The Masons, I presume?

That would be another angle to check out, but I don't know if they have public membership lists. I would think they don't, given the secrecy that pervades this organization.

Unfortunately, many of our government leaders are also members.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Is it an indication that some folks think she could become more alert with even a tiny little bit of help?

I think there is a very good chance that Terri will improve, I also think the reason she's hung in there for so long is that she has something important to say.

Michael Schiavo can't let that happen.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Yup. It's pretty difficult to get anyone to talk about them, mainly because there are so many members who hold very influencial positions. Cops, lawyers, politicians, businessmen...I can't remember what Michael Schiavo did for a living before choosing a "nursing career".

[trustandobey]

Wouldn't it be wonderful to hear just for an hour Terri's story? Lets all pray that it happens.

[syriacus]

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030909/APN/309090900

Lawyers in Schiavo case fighting for upper hand

By MITCH STACY
Associated Press Writer

TAMPA, Fla. --
With a judge poised to set a date for removal of a brain-damaged woman's feeding tube, both sides in the yearslong dispute are doing some last-minute legal maneuvering they hope will dictate Terri Schiavo's fate.
Circuit Judge George W. Greer is expected, during a hearing Thursday, to set a date for removal of the feeding tube that is keeping the 39-year-old woman alive.

On Tuesday, an attorney for Michael Schiavo, her husband and guardian, filed an emergency motion with the 2nd District Court of Appeal, hoping to trump 11th-hour legal maneuverings by her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, who are trying to stop the judge from giving the order that will let the tube be pulled.

Terri Schiavo was 26 in 1990 when she suddenly collapsed in her home after her heart stopped from what doctors believe was a potassium imbalance.
Doctors said the loss of oxygen to her brain left her in a state where she can breathe on her own but is reliant on a liquid nutritional supplement and water delivered through a tube. Doctors have said she would live just 10 to 14 days without it.

Michael Schiavo contends his wife had told him that she would never have wanted to be kept alive artificially.
The Schindlers believe their daughter communicates with them and can be rehabilitated, despite court-appointed doctors saying she will never recover from what they call a "persistent vegetative state."

Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, accused the Schindlers' attorneys of filing frivolous motions designed to delay ending Terri Schiavo's life. He's asking the appeals court, which already affirmed Michael Schiavo's right to remove the feeding tube, to step in and make sure it is carried out.

"As the Schindlers run out of legal options, their tactics have become more desperate," Felos said Tuesday. "It's an abuse of the legal system."

Felos' action follows a motion filed Friday
by a Schindler attorney, Pat Anderson, who asked Greer to take himself off the case. Anderson charged that Greer, based on statements she claims he has made to reporters and others, favors the other side and should step aside.

A Greer spokeswoman said Tuesday the judge was reviewing the motion and hasn't taken any action.
Felos said the case, which has been in the courts since 1998, would be further delayed if Greer stepped down. Anderson has been unsuccessful in previous efforts to get Greer removed from it.

In his emergency motion, Felos also asked the appeals court to strike down Anderson's motions and to carry out removal of life support even if Greer decides he must remove himself from the case.

"Unless this court swiftly and decisively acts to enforce this mandate, this case will descend further in chaos," the motion states.

A spokeswoman for the Schindlers, Pamela Hennessy, defended Anderson's actions.

"She is vigorously defending this young woman's life through every legal avenue she can," Hennessy said. "To call it frivolous and delaying is just silly. She's doing her job."

Hennessy said the case deserves another look because of evidence that recently come to light recently: Former caregivers of Terri Schiavo claimed that she has tried to communicate and that her husband has withheld therapy and proper medical treatment with hopes she would die, according to affidavits filed by Anderson

Last week, Anderson asked a federal judge to intervene, claiming that Michael Schiavo is violating his wife's civil rights. The judge refused to get involved but agreed to hear arguments on the issue again later.

[syriacus]

I can't remember what Michael Schiavo did for a living before choosing a "nursing career".

I think he was a restaurant manager.

[trustandobey]

Abuse of the legal system???

[Deo volente]

"Is it an indication that some folks think she could become more alert with even a tiny little bit of help? "


Schiavo, Felos, Greer, and company are trying their hardest to pretend she's a "vegetable", at the same time that Terri is showing the world the truth, that she is a courageous woman who is fighting for her life!

Anyone over the age of 2 can see this. It's right in front of their faces, and either they are in complete DENIAL of reality, or they understand all too well, and are committed to their evil course. I prefer to think that they are just insane, since I don't want to judge anyone's interior motives. That's beyond my knowledge.

[syriacus]

Michael Schiavo contends his wife had told him that she would never have wanted to be kept alive artificially.

And it could be that his words do not count legally, because of the Dead Man's Statute.

Since he might benefit financially, he is not allowed to testify about what Terri might have said.

One or two of his siblings have testified Terri would not want to live in these circumstances, but members of Terri's family (and a friend of hers?) have testified otherwise.

The judge should have disregarded any comments by Schiavo about what Terri said.