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Freepers call to action re. Terri Schindler-Schiavo. Make a complaint against Judge Greer:
Various ^ | August 28, 2003

Posted on 08/28/2003 5:20:42 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

Freepers, we may be able to help Terri:


I made some phone calls today and have the ULTIMATE PHONE CALL for registering a Complaint against Judge Greer. I can't reveal my sources but this is the phone number for a few pay grades above J. Greer.

Call the: Judicial Qualifications Commission at

#1-850-488-1581. I am complaining to them tomorrow that J. Greer isn't God, that he's been in the husband's corner since Day One, he doesn't care a wit about Terri's parents or her husband's attempt at medical neglect, and I'd like to know if Greer can be recalled or impeached.

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

Oh, and ping everybody you can think of.

72 posted on 08/27/2003 5:06 PM EDT by floriduh voter


From summer:

"..do a separate thread asking people to call this phone number FV provided. This could get a guardian appointed if the judge is tossed off the case for BIAS."


Background:

8 Jeb Bush intervenes for Schindler-Schiavo -   WND | 8/26

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has asked a judge to delay setting a date for removal of a feeding tube sustaining the life of a brain-disabled woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In a letter, Bush asked Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer yesterday to keep her alive until a court-appointed guardian can "independently investigate the circumstances of this case and provide the court with an unbiased view that considers the best interests of Mrs. Schiavo."


8 From JEB to FR: Full text of Gov Bush's letter to Judge Greer re: Terri Schiavo. Email from Gov Bush to summer, for FR | 8/27

 ----- Original Message -----
From: [Governor Bush's office]
To: [summer's email]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:06 AM
Subject: Letter regarding Terri Schiavo

> August 26, 2003

> The Honorable George W. Greer
> Judge, Sixth Judicial Circuit
> 315 Court Street, Room 484
> Clearwater, Florida 33756

Dear Judge Greer:

> I appreciate the challenging legal and ethical issues before you in the case > of Terri Schiavo. As I have expressed over the course of the past several > weeks, our system of government has committed these decisions to the > judicial branch, and we must respect that process. Consistent with this > principle, I normally would not address a letter to a judge in a pending > legal proceeding. However, my office has received over 27,000 emails > reflecting understandable concern for the well being of Terri Schiavo. > Given that there is no procedural avenue available for these views to be > expressed to you in the normal course of the proceedings, I feel compelled > to write in the hopes that you will give serious consideration to > re-appointment of a guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo before permitting the > removal of her feeding tube or other actions calculated to end her life.

> This case represents the disturbing result of a severe family disagreement > in extremely trying circumstances. Emotions are high, accusations abound, > and at the heart of this public and private maelstrom is a young woman > incapable of speaking for herself.

> I am disturbed by new rumors about the guardian's actions related to the > current care of Mrs. Schiavo. It has come to my attention that Mrs. Schiavo > has contracted a life threatening illness, and that she may be denied > appropriate treatment. If true, this indicates a decision by her caregivers > to initiate an "exit protocol" that may include withholding treatment from > Mrs. Schiavo until her death, which would render this Court's ultimate > decision moot. While the issue of Mrs. Schiavo's care is still before the > Court, I urge you to ensure that no act of omission or commission be allowed > to adversely affect Mrs. Schiavo's health before the September 11th hearing > you have set. No one involved should be permitted to circumvent due process > or the Court's authority in order to achieve personal objectives in this > case.

> Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members, I respectfully ask that you re-appoint a > qualified guardian ad litem to independently investigate the circumstances > of this case, and provide the Court an unbiased view that considers only the > best interests of Mrs. Schiavo.

> It is a fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right > to life, both of which are co-equal in our Constitution. To err on one side > is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the > debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no > remediation. I respectfully ask that you give Mrs. Schiavo's family the > opportunity to present any new evidence as to her wishes. Evidence as to > her wishes should be reweighed as often as necessary to take into account > the effect of any new evidence, that is, to determine whether "clear and > convincing evidence" still exists that Mrs. Schiavo would now choose > withdrawal of life-prolonging procedures. While this process may delay the > surrogate's exercise of Mrs. Schiavo's privacy rights, it is necessary to > avoid denying her right to life. I urge you to err on the side of > conservative judgment to ensure that all facts can be uncovered and > considered before her life is terminated.

> I appreciate your compassion for Mrs. Schiavo's plight, and that of the > family members locked in dispute in these tragic circumstances. In light of > the ongoing contention related to so many issues in this case, I hope you > will consider appointing a guardian ad litem to ensure that the ultimate > decision is based on facts presented clearly, unclouded and uncolored by > personal interests of litigants.

> Sincerely,

> Jeb Bush

> cc: Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
> George J. Felos, Esq.


(WND article excerpts, cont.:) "On Friday, the Florida Supreme Court refused to intervene in the case, clearing the way for a Sept. 11 hearing in which Greer would set a date for removal of the feeding tube.

Terri's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler of Gulf Port, Fla., have been locked in a decade-long legal battle with their son-in-law over the care and custody of their daughter, who suffered massive brain damage when she collapsed at her home 13 years ago under unexplained circumstances at the age of 26.

***The bitter dispute over Terri's lack of care became a major euthanasia battle five years ago when her husband Michael Schiavo petitioned the court for permission to have her feeding tube removed, claiming she is in a persistent vegetative state and would not want to be kept alive "artificially." The Schindlers and a number of doctors and therapists believe she could be rehabilitated, but the courts have consistently sided with Schiavo and his lawyer, right-to-die advocate George Felos.

~~~~

The article is on CNSNews.com.

Florida Judge Rejects Governor's Bid to Help Terri Schiavo
By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
August 27, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Florida Circuit Judge George Greer Tuesday rejected a plea from Governor Jeb Bush to appoint a guardian ad litem to represent the best interests of Terri Schindler Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Bush had intervened Monday after receiving 27,000 email messages asking for his help on Terri's behalf.

"I read [Gov. Bush's letter] because it came from the governor and I respect his position," Greer told the Tampa Tribune. "Beyond that, it is going in the file."

As CNSNews.com previously reported, Bush wrote Greer Monday asking him not to remove the disabled woman's feeding tube until a new guardian ad litem could "independently investigate" her condition. In the letter, Bush referenced the "fine balance between Mrs. Schiavo's right to privacy and her right to life," which Bush noted are co-equal under the Constitution.

"To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes and to continue the debate," Bush wrote. "To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation."

But Greer told the Associated Press that he no longer has a choice in the matter.

"Frankly, I think I'm operating under a mandate from the 2nd District Court of Appeals," Greer said, "and frankly I don't think I can stray from that mandate."

In that same interview, however, the judge contradicted his own assessment of the limitation on his authority by stating that he was "not inclined" to appoint a guardian ad litem.

Michael Schiavo called Gov. Bush's intervention on behalf of Terri "crazy."

"The governor has deliberately twisted the facts in this case in an apparent effort to kowtow to his right-to-life political supporters," Schiavo told Tampa Tribune reporter David Sommer. "This has nothing to do with him. He should stay out of it."

Schiavo - who, for five years, has been seeking judicial approval to end his wife's life by denying her nutrition and hydration - also accused Terri's parents of manipulating their Catholic faith to keep their daughter alive.

"I believe in God and so did (?) Terri," Schiavo said, speaking of his still living wife in the past tense, "but they are out to push it on people... suddenly they are on a religious kick."

Judge refuses motion for hearing to set 'death date'

Greer also denied a motion Tuesday to hold an immediate hearing to set a date for the removal of Terri's nutrition and hydration tube. The hearing will be held, as previously announced, on Sept. 11. At that hearing, Greer will also rule on whether Schiavo may legally prohibit Terri's priest from visiting her.

Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, had also petitioned the court Monday to prohibit doctors from caring for Terri's current fever, labored breathing, vomiting, diarrhea and a "substantial infection."

"Given the imminence of the ward's death, further treatment (other than comfort care) for the ward's infection and other medical problems is unnecessary, unwarranted, inappropriate and futile," Felos said in an emergency motion, adding that Terri, "should be put back in hospice and receive comfort care and die in a peaceful setting."

Greer denied that motion, as well.

55 posted on 08/27/2003 5:29 PM EDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)


Michael Schiavo is using "privacy" as an excuse for denying Terri every contact from the outside world, even flowers. "One sign of the case's nastiness is the Schindlers' complaint that Schiavo limits their visits with their daughter. They also say he has refused to allow doctors to examine her, refused her antibiotics and needed dental work, refused to replace a broken wheelchair so she could be taken outdoors and refused the delivery of flowers from a friend to her room on her birthday."

"Her teeth are fine; she doesn't eat," Michael Schiavo said. "Why take her to a gynecologist? She was supposed to die months ago. I don't want her room filled with flowers from strangers or right-to-life activists. Even though she is vegetative she has a right to privacy."

17 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by I still care

***

I thought Gov Bush very eloquently made his case here, in this part:

To err on one side is to prolong her existence, perhaps against her wishes, and continue the debate. To err on the other is an irrevocable act that affords no remediation.

18 posted on 08/27/2003 10:14 AM EDT by summer


***

..this judge is going to look really bad if this part is ignored by the judge:

Even discounting these rumors, there are a number of factual disputes > regarding Mrs. Schiavo's medical condition, past and current care and > therapy, and her prognosis. Given the contradictory positions of her > guardian and other family members

21 posted on 08/27/2003 10:17 AM EDT by summer

***

HE SHOULD HAVE OR COULD HAVE HONORED GOV. BUSH'S REQUEST TO ASSIGN A GUARDIAN AD LITEM to represent Terri's interest instead of once again, taking the side of the husband. Judge Greer is from the Sixth Circuit Court, Pinellas County.

That is one thing that floors me .. This Judge should have long ago appointed an independent Guardian Ad Litem and not left her husband as her sole guardian .. especially since there are questions about her husband with abuse and the fractured bones that were reveled in xrays of Terry.

Everything I have read .. this Judge seems hell bent on having her killed

73 posted on 08/28/2003 2:45 AM EDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)

***

I know that Mr. Schiavo has tried to ban Terri's mother and family and priest from seeing her.

But, I don't know how a court could prevent doctors from ordering therapy, speach therapy (which is often actually swallowing therapy) and most especially oral nutrition.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)

***

Judge Greer has been with the husband since day one. A guardian ad litem would have been fair for Terri and her parents. Her parents love her but they are treated as the enemy. I'm ashamed this is happening in Pinellas County.

31 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Judge Greer will not appoint a guardian ad litem. I have phone numbers from the phone book for the Clearwater Courthouse and all the guardianship phone numbers. He husband held a presser today and was very flippant about Jeb's letter and called the emailers a "bunch of right to lifers."

Hubby is looking a little nervous but with a pal like Judge Greer who is no Judge Moore, Terri has until the September 11 hearing to decide the date her starvation begins.

Here are the phone numbers: courthouse - 727-464-3000, guardianship numbers: 727-582-7563, 727-582-7771, and 727-464-8700. We can at least call as friends of Terri and voice our concerns.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 7:34 PM EDT by floriduh voter


Freepers, please call the Juducial Qualification Commission regarding Judge Greer:  1-850-488-1581.

***

Contact friends, thank those have been fighting on Terri's behalf, including Glenn Beck, Lars Larson, CNS News.com, WND, and Bill O'Reilly.

*** Terri Schindler Schiavo's website - background and news updates: www.terrisfight.org ***

8 Terri Schiavo's website Media Contacts

Governor Jeb Bush (R)
Office of The Governor
Florida Capitol Building, PL-05
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001
(850) 488-7146
(850) 488-4441
jeb.bush@myflorida.com

The Honorable(?) George W. Greer
6th Judicial Circuit
315 Court Street, Room 484
Clearwater, FL 33756
(727) 464-3933
ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

Attorney General Charlie Crist
Office of Attorney General
State of Florida
The Capitol
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
(850) 487-1963
Fax: (850) 487-2564
ag@oag.state.fl.us



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To: sfRummygirl
I went to the freerepublic.com and logged in but didn't see this as a topic anymore. is Terri still on the topics or activism list here or is it under more...

Wish it was at the top.
1,841 posted on 09/06/2003 2:32:02 PM PDT by pc93 (Murder of Terri Schindler by Michael Schiavo to be sanctioned by Jeb Bush, FL, Fed courts?)
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To: sfRummygirl
I thought of doing that! Wonder if it would be against the law to write "SAVE TERRI--FREE REPUBLIC.COM" on all mail?
1,842 posted on 09/06/2003 2:32:58 PM PDT by trustandobey (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS)
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To: pc93
I e-mailed JR to ask if Terri could be moved to the front page. If we are going to do the Jello thing, it would be good free advertising for FR and of great benefit to put Terri on the front page!
1,843 posted on 09/06/2003 2:34:50 PM PDT by trustandobey (ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS)
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To: trustandobey
If someone from FR would like to put a link to www.terrisfight.org on the front page, visit http://www.terrisfight.org./linktous.html to get the code.

Might make it easier. Thanks.

-PH-
1,844 posted on 09/06/2003 2:56:23 PM PDT by phenn
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To: syriacus; kimmie7
And, former senator Donald C. Sullivan is an MD, can't remember if he is an orthopaedic surgeon or a neurologist. It always come back to the co-mingling of medicine and government.

I am starting to think that the Florida Statutes Exit Protocol as it stands now, that Michael Schiavo is relying upon, was written into law in the Lawton Chiles Administration.

I've been running errands today but there should be a way to determine when the current exit protocols became law, who wrote the bill and WHO LOBBIED THEM. They are responsible for the unfortunate, tragic situation that Terri is in today.

I faxed Jeb that since the Judge won't budge (lol), he should take this back to the legislature post haste.

Another FREEP IDEA that worked during Jeb's campaign. Go to Staples or Office Depot and buy the transparent badges with paper to write on. Write HELP TERRI and then, give her web site. I'm not sure of the name. terrisfight.org. I don't know if that's correct or not.

Kimmie, please freepmail me about Jello at your earliest.

1,845 posted on 09/06/2003 3:25:31 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: sfRummygirl
I'm getting tired....

You've done a great job.

1,846 posted on 09/06/2003 3:27:44 PM PDT by syriacus (Why does Schumer think it's okay for HIM to put duty to God first, but it's not okay for others?)
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To: kimmie7; All
Bump to #1753 for contact numbers. Lurkers, please join Terri's Ping list. See my tag line. Thanks.

I had some good luck today. I dropped into my favorite antique store. It was their anniversary, I signed up for their drawing (& pigged out - free buffet) and when I got home, there was a message on my machine "that I won the $25.00 gift certificate!"

I thought some good news was in order.

1,847 posted on 09/06/2003 3:30:12 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
Congratulations!!!

The good news is helpful.

1,848 posted on 09/06/2003 3:37:02 PM PDT by syriacus (Why does Schumer think it's okay for HIM to put duty to God first, but it's not okay for others?)
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To: pc93
I have alerted the great city of Las Vegas. That call will initiate emails to the great state of Tennessee. This is how we must network with non-freeper friends. We need to email our friends and family wherever they are, in addition to the bureaucrats and media.

Terri's fight is the biggest crossover of our time. Felos spins that there is "a group".

What has really happened is that individuals have decided on their own to help Terri. I am a group of one doing what I can.

We must stay the course and we need everyone's help.

1,849 posted on 09/06/2003 3:40:47 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: pc93
If you visit Melone's page at http://www.sptimes.com, there's a story where she was OUTRAGED when a pig was killed "on air" for a shock jock. She finished that column spouting about community standards and was upset that a pig was killed.

But, Jeb needs to mind his own business? Uh, I thought the Governor was the Governor of all the people, including TERRI.

1,850 posted on 09/06/2003 3:44:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
You have freepmail.
1,851 posted on 09/06/2003 3:48:45 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: phenn; All
I am not singling you out but the admin mod deleted a post above one of yours. PEOPLE, let's remember to phrase our opinions as opinions and if you find something on the internet pertinent to Terri's case, give attribution.

REMEMBER LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS. We want to help Terri but not violate FR's policies.

Most posts have been backed up by facts and everyone deserves a round of applause for staying on message. Congratulations!

1,852 posted on 09/06/2003 3:51:38 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: syriacus
This is SICK.

This "right-to-die" advocate lives or practices in Dunedin.

Q: Is tube-delivered food really classified as a drug?

Google cache for the article: The Right to Die? by Constance Snow

Greed for money and power is the most common and obvious 'materialistic' sin. What does not appear to be so prominent but much more insidious is our attachment to the ultimate of tangible connections, our physical bodies. We hold on so tight, we even keep the unconscious body alive.

[snip] Is the tube-delivered food - a chemical classified as a drug by the FDA - that is being dripped into Richard's body, 'food for thought'?

[My note: is she trying to encourage the ill and the elderly to die, so that she and her friends can handle their wills and estates...Who's the real greedy party here? ]

Constance Snow is writing a book How To Bring A Lawsuit With Love. She is a LMT, reiki master, spiritual counselor, certified Louise Hay teacher and lawyer. Dunedin, FL

What a Felos-like title for her book! Is she a friend of Felos? (I'm not asking anyone to check this out....just making a mental note.)
1,853 posted on 09/06/2003 3:54:40 PM PDT by syriacus (Why does Schumer think it's okay for HIM to put duty to God first, but it's not okay for others?)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
May I help you connect a few dots re: scientology? Judge Greer was on the MacPherson case. Before he was a Judge, he was a County Commissioner.

Hubby's attorney, George Felos, was a STATE ATTORNEY in Pinellas County & on the Hospice Board before Michael hired him to start Terri's exit protocol. Michael has hit a few snags along the way.

And last but not least, Judge Greer also sat on Hospice's Board in the past.

Finally, Felos does breathing exercises every a.m. and yoga. Scientology are real big on breathing exercises, tried to get my brother to try them - he almost passed out and said "gotta go." This is also probably on line under their other name which is more palatable the science of "dianetics".

1,854 posted on 09/06/2003 3:56:15 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: Theodore R.
I've emailed a group of Terri supporters to find out about rallys. The web site gives "days" but no "dates". Kinda hard to show up when you don't know the date. If they email me back, I'll ping kimmie7 to ping the list.
1,855 posted on 09/06/2003 4:01:11 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: sfRummygirl
I'm back. I had to win a door prize at an antique store, to to a thrift store and go to K Mart to get some paint and munchies for the Terri-Thon.

I think we should go to office stores and buy the transparent badges and put HELP TERRI and her official web site underneath. When we do go out to run errands, cashiers will ask, what's that for?

How do you think Jeb got re-elected? FV made real nice badges for one thing. I handed them out at rallys. They were masterpieces.

Thanks for your pings. Saturdays are kind of slow at Free Republic but maybe we can get to 2000 by Sunday morn.

1,856 posted on 09/06/2003 4:07:35 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: floriduh voter
the admin mod deleted a post.

It was an obscene post. It was so swiftly removed that I was in the middle of trying to figure out how to report it, and it was already gone. Great work on the part of the AM.

I think the pictures were pretty "bad." (Luckily my vision is not the greatest.)

1,857 posted on 09/06/2003 4:10:00 PM PDT by syriacus (Why does Schumer think it's okay for HIM to put duty to God first, but it's not okay for others?)
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To: syriacus
That's the 2nd obscene post I've missed here to date. I'll assume that's a good thing.
1,858 posted on 09/06/2003 4:27:15 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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To: syriacus
Another one? Geez.
1,859 posted on 09/06/2003 4:33:55 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: syriacus
How to Bring Love to a Lawsuit or Killing With Kindness. By the way, I did email John Kasich. Let's see if he has the guts to bring Terri up on his Heartland show on Fox tonight. I'm betting he won't touch it.

TUNE IN TO THE HEARTLAND TONIGHT ON FOX NEWS to see if Kasich cares.

1,860 posted on 09/06/2003 4:41:30 PM PDT by floriduh voter (TO JOIN TERRI PING LIST CONTACT kimmie7)
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