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TOM MCCLINTOCK DAILY EDITION - 8/27/2003(CA GOVERNOR'S RACE)
Rabid Republican

Posted on 08/27/2003 7:07:17 AM PDT by Rabid Dog

Please post local, regional, national news and views on Tom McClintock. Please, no RINO Rants, Naysayer Negativity and/or inane comments. This thread is for the conservatives who support Tom McClintock and/or those who are interested in learning more about him and his campaign.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 26kdollarwelfaretom; mcclintock
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To: pogo101
get lost...we have enough Aunold "plants" invading this thread already with their "innocent" questions...just to bait us into some kind of flame war...we're here to stay informed...you're here to incite a riot! You have a computer...use it if you sincerely want to find out answers to your questions. But don't come on here with your "know it all" and "it can't be done" and "he can't win" and expect anyone to believe you are anything but an Aunold fan club member!!!
41 posted on 08/27/2003 10:16:20 AM PDT by kellynla (USMC SEMPER FI! VOTE4MCCLINTOCK...or pay the con$equence$! http://www.tommcclintock.com)
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To: pogo101
tough talk while hiding behind a computer...your profanity has me shaking in my boots ROFLMO...I knew I would get to the truth about what you are all about...you just convicted yourself, "expert!" BTW, have a little more respect...that's "Marine" with a capital M!
42 posted on 08/27/2003 10:23:31 AM PDT by kellynla (USMC SEMPER FI! VOTE4MCCLINTOCK...or pay the con$equence$! http://www.tommcclintock.com)
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To: pogo101
Unfortunately, most political debate takes place along a line that runs from far left to far right, where in reality it is better understood in two dimensions ( fiscal and social). There obviously are more dimensions, but adding them makes discussion much more complex.

In the fiscal dimension, McClintock is probably more small-government than Schwarzenegger. In the social dimension, however, their positions are reversed, and that's where elections are decided in California (ask Lundgren, Fong and others).

The real issue in this election is whether we get a big-fiscal-government Democrat (Bustamante) or a small-fiscal-government Republican (McClintock or Schwarzenegger). I'm for the latter. This is vital if we are to retain jobs and the people who create them. The Democrat strategy of driving out businesses and high income individuals may ensure them a permanent voting majority, but there will be no one left to pay for the benefits their constituents crave.

43 posted on 08/27/2003 10:25:08 AM PDT by owl
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To: kellynla
"plants" invading this thread already with their "innocent" questions...

Paranoid much?

just to bait us into some kind of flame war...

No, but you're doing a pretty good job of it yourself, sweets. What, no response to the "contrast" between your reaction to my 187 post and Rabid Republican's? Pretty interesting.

we're here to stay informed...

"We"? Judging from the fact that you're starting a flame war, and you're attacking anyone who isn't simply rah-rah and/or who asks neutral questions that you might find uncomfortable (or impossible) to answer. And, you immediately get personal and nasty.

you're here to incite a riot!

See above. You're the one pouncing hysterically on my bland, vanilla question, trying to start something. I won't start it, but just won't back away from it, especially from a swaggering goon like you -- in constrast to your chickening out yesterday (from answering my question about whom you'd vote for if McC dropped/endorsed).

tough talk while hiding behind a computer

Oh, are you calling me out? Can't compete with ideas?

...your profanity has me shaking in my boots ROFLMO

Really? What profanity is that, dear? "Capiche" is Italian for "[do you] comprehend."

...I knew I would get to the truth about what you are all about...you just convicted yourself, "expert!"

Oh? On what charge, officer?
44 posted on 08/27/2003 10:58:34 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: owl
Mostly I agree. But I believe a very charismatic conservative could win the state over immediately, without need for half measures. Barring that, I believe it will take time and patience.

If we get Bustamante, Gawd, I'm not sure I'm willing to stay in this state. All that'll be left here will be tourism and welfare-statism.
45 posted on 08/27/2003 11:05:20 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101
You really need to get a life...every day you come on this thread and ask your stupid questions that if you were series you could find out the answers on your own after all you are the "expert" who knows everything that can and cannot be done...you make inane comments...what part of "get lost" don't you understand...I don't have the time or the inclination to babysit you...
46 posted on 08/27/2003 11:07:32 AM PDT by kellynla (USMC SEMPER FI! VOTE4MCCLINTOCK...or pay the con$equence$! http://www.tommcclintock.com)
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To: kellynla
what part of "get lost" don't you understand

Kelly girl, this isn't your thread or anyone else's except Jim Robinson's. You are a bully. I will "get lost" the day that you "drop dead." Got it, sweetie? If you don't like it, why don't you "get lost" yourself?
47 posted on 08/27/2003 11:12:15 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101
"sweetie?" only my girlfriend calls me "sweetie"... any time you think you have the balls to insult me to me face you let me know. And I will be glad to meet you face to face. Now you've proved my point. You constantly come on this thread, make acccusations and bait me like I predicted you would. Your profanity, personal insults is disrespectful to me, to Tom McClintock and everyone who this thread is for. Your presence is no longer welcome here. Take your profanity, inane comments, naysaying elsewhere.
48 posted on 08/27/2003 11:21:52 AM PDT by kellynla (USMC SEMPER FI! VOTE4MCCLINTOCK...or pay the con$equence$! http://www.tommcclintock.com)
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To: pogo101
I just checked some of your other posts and there seems to be a pattern of baiting and then personal insults, baiting and personal insults. Most of the people that monitor this thread are pretty wise to your tactics. May account for why you are getting no traction.

I will still copy you on Tom reponse to the 187 question. I noticed you have raised your point on several other posts. Perhaps it can be put to bed shortly.

In the meantime, can you and kellynla please take your argument to the personal post level? It might not be as gratifying but would preserve the integrity of this thread.

Thank you both for respecting the "no rant" request.
49 posted on 08/27/2003 11:37:05 AM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: kellynla
"sweetie?" only my girlfriend calls me "sweetie"... any time you think you have the balls to insult me to me face you let me know.

Big words from a, uh, man, who started a war of words and lost. Now you are trying to escalate to an RL physical fight. And you say I need a life? Fact is, I do, and it just shows you have little to lose. You aren't worth a spot on my clothes.

And I will be glad to meet you face to face.

See above. Just because you don't succeed in pushing someone around with words, and find that you actually get pushed BACK somewhat, you think you can go HIT the person. Psychotic.

Now you've proved my point. You constantly come on this thread, make acccusations and bait me like I predicted you would.

No, Kelly. If anything, I'm baiting you BACK, after you start a fight.

Whether you happen to believe it or not, I came on this thread today to ask if anyone knew of something I didn't: whether any legal authority supports McClintock's position that he can, if elected, re-invigorate Prop 187. I'd love it if that were so, but I have no reason to believe so. (As to your notion that I'm "asking others to do my homework": no, I'm effectively asking for support for a claim the candidate made. It's McClintock's burden to prove what he says he can do, not mine to disprove it.)

You respond by calling names and worse. You're just a bully who's not used to someone standing up to you. Well, in my case, you'd better.

Your profanity,

What profanity?

personal insults

Oh, Kelly, did you EVER start it. I just allowed myself to lose a little bit of my temper in RESPONSE to worse from you.

is disrespectful to me

See immediately above. You got back a little of what you gave. True, I shouldn't stoop to your level with "sweets" and such, but it's pretty minimal compared to your bullying abuse.

to Tom McClintock and everyone who this thread is for.

You can't even speak for yourself, Kelly, so don't try to speak for others. You give supporters of McClintock a bad name, just as do some of the rah-rah Schwarzenegger folks who bash any conservative who asks a question about A.S.'s gun policy or the like.
50 posted on 08/27/2003 11:39:50 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Rabid Republican
I just checked some of your other posts and there seems to be a pattern of baiting and then personal insults, baiting and personal insults.

I'm sorry you see it that way. I've had run-ins with two of the folks who frequent this thread, but at least from my perspective it's always been my blood drawn first. True, thereafter I tend to give as good as I get, but I hardly think that sets me apart here.

Certainly in this morning's case I'm puzzled. I really want to know whether and how, as to Tom's position on Prop 187. Apparently, that's "baiting"? *sigh* Anyway, I doubt you have time, but if you care to, kindly private-message me with examples of what you consider "baiting and personal insults," and I'll take a look and re-examine my posting habits.
51 posted on 08/27/2003 11:44:14 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: kellynla; Rabid Republican
morning everyone.

keeeeelly, remember, don't feed the strays!
52 posted on 08/27/2003 11:49:05 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Proud card carrying member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy since 1984)
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To: pogo101
Knock off the profanity.
53 posted on 08/27/2003 11:52:48 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: All
Here's a link to a GREAT column from the Weekly Standard.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971485/posts

54 posted on 08/27/2003 11:56:50 AM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: jokar
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55 posted on 08/27/2003 12:28:26 PM PDT by kellynla (USMC SEMPER FI! VOTE4MCCLINTOCK...or pay the con$equence$! http://www.tommcclintock.com)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Now that's nice.
56 posted on 08/27/2003 2:00:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
No different that you repeated claiming I'm from DU "victim"
57 posted on 08/27/2003 2:01:34 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Now that's nice.

Ahh, I see you weren't being sarcastic. Well, I put in a request for more "positive" things.

58 posted on 08/27/2003 2:03:16 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: Rabid Republican; All
I would like to ask both McClintock supporters/defenders and Schwarzenegger supporter/defenders
to listen up for a momentPlease.

Schwarzenegger Camp - Supporters or Defenders

I would like to ask you all to join me in promising not to call  for the withdrawel of McClintok from the race before September 20th.

The call for McClintock to withdraw right now, or the tactic of calling him and his followers names for not doing so, is not productive and isn't good for the party.

I am going to knock it off.  You should do so also.

Please post comments and articles that support your candidate's beliefs, not your opponents faults.

McClintock Camp - Supporters or Defenders

I would like to ask you all to please post positive articles about your man's policies and leave the Schwarzenegger bashing to the Democrats.

Folks if both sides would post the positive things about their own candidate, people would be able to visit pro threads about each candidate and learn there.  Then they would make informed decisions on their own.

McClintock supporters should revel in the fact that their man will win out most often under that policy, baring any outside factors.
 

What is taking place on this forum right now is not productive for any of us.

Both Schwarzenegger and McClintock supporters have been doing the democrat's bidding by infighting.

I'm willing to admit I've been as or more guilty than anyone with regard to this subject.
 

Please!  Can we agree to end this?
 

I would rather support McClintock than defend Schwarzenegger.  Wouldn't you?
 
 

59 posted on 08/27/2003 2:15:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: starsandstrips; summer; Salvation; jam137; Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge; heleny; ...
An Important Ping - for both Tom and Arnie (and I guess Peter)

May your post receive One Thousand Bumps!
60 posted on 08/27/2003 2:18:54 PM PDT by Rabid Dog
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