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Bully for our youngsters!
1 posted on 08/26/2003 12:06:50 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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Even though we know that the tests were "lowered" about six years ago, this is still better news than "scores are falling." Is it too early to say, "No Child Left Behind" is working???
2 posted on 08/26/2003 12:10:57 PM PDT by LS
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MATH SAT Scores Reach 36-Year High

Congrats Bush Administration!

3 posted on 08/26/2003 12:13:03 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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And Georgia once again is 50th on SAT scores!
4 posted on 08/26/2003 12:14:48 PM PDT by CFW
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Possible factors:
Rise of homeschooling?
More magnet schools?
Private school enrollment is up?
Greater direct parental involvement?
More Asian students?

Impossible factors:
Teacher unions.
Million Man Math.

6 posted on 08/26/2003 12:15:58 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer
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"The nonprofit College Board said 36 percent of those taking the test were minority students"

At least that's the box they checked! (Wink!)

7 posted on 08/26/2003 12:17:14 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This Islamo-fascism has been brought to you by Saudi Arabia!)
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Well I guess this is a real triumph for our public school systems. It must mean that a unionized government provided monopoly really is the best way to provide education to our children.

Yep, I'm sure that's it. Here it is finally....quantitative proof that socialism really does work and capitalism is just a troublesome phase we're all going through. I think after this it's time to admit that we were all wrong and the wild eyed marxists over at DU were right.

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Or they could have dumbed down the test and manipulated the statistics, but I'm sure that isn't what really happened.

8 posted on 08/26/2003 12:20:11 PM PDT by tcostell
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"MATH SAT Scores Reach 36-Year High

Tom Daschle: I am saddened. Deeply saddened.

13 posted on 08/26/2003 12:35:21 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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The higher math scores are probably legitimate. After all, math is math. But the higher verbal scores are due at least in part to the dumbing down of the questions. Year by year the SAT Board makes the questions easier to answer -- so higher scores mean the students are running in place, and will need remedial courses in college to learn what they should have learned in high school.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "In the Justices We Trust?" posted on FR, other publication to come.

15 posted on 08/26/2003 12:37:11 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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Yea calculatore will do that
18 posted on 08/26/2003 12:42:25 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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Before we all get too excited - consider that the scores are simply numbers that provide a pretty good ranking of those taking the test. These test scores get re-centered and are not compared to some gold standard. It would be interesting to see the tests from the 50's and 60's re-administered and scored using the old scoring system.

This sounds like a PR puff piece put out by ETS. They've had some very bad press recently and colleges and universities have been dropping it as a requirement. If you're sending out low scores you're going to be disliked. The higher the scores, the happier everyone will be.

19 posted on 08/26/2003 12:48:02 PM PDT by ladyjane
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Am i incorrect that the S.A.T. was made easier in the 1990's because of political pressure ?
20 posted on 08/26/2003 12:50:03 PM PDT by y2k_free_radical (ROTFLMAO)
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My cousin home schooled her two sons until she found a good private (Christain) school for them to attend. Her oldest just graduated in May. His ACT score was an overall 35 and he is a National Merit Scholarship Finalist. He was awarded a full academic scholarship to Auburn University where he entered in June. He is studying pre-med and plans to be a surgeon. And he is a wonderful young man, with his head on straight. My whole family loves him dearly!
21 posted on 08/26/2003 12:51:02 PM PDT by auboy
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Interesting....Are our schools beginning to turn it around?

A definite sign of hope.
26 posted on 08/26/2003 1:07:44 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (Nothing Is More Vile Than A Blowhard With Halitosis! - redruM)
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Talk about screwed up schools. My son scored 610 on the SAT's as a seventh grader which puts him performing at better than 77% of graduating seniors and he hasn't been taught yet most of the math that the exam covers.

The school he goes to moved him out of the advanced math class for 8th grade because he failed to complete his homework regularly last year. They reconsidered when I asked them the effect on the self esteem on the average students would be having him in the class skewing test grades.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 1:13:46 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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said Tuesday that this year's high school graduates had an average cumulative score of 1,026 points on the SAT, up six points from 2002

In addition to what the other posters said about the test being 'recentered' (read extra points given for simply breathing), and as we all know that the hard stuff like analogies and the antonym section have been removed, I have two things to say:

1. The scores have risen six measly points and we're excited?

2. A score of 1026 out of a possible 1600 figures out to approximately 63%. When I was in school that was a D-.

29 posted on 08/26/2003 1:19:17 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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mo probably they dumbed down the tests
30 posted on 08/26/2003 1:29:43 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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Translation - they've succeeded in lowering the standard enough now to show an unimpressive 6 point increase.

Blah, blah, non-Asian minorities, blah, blah. Whoa, back up, what about the non-Asian minorities? Could it be that the Asian minority is skewing the study's stats so they are taken out of the mix?
33 posted on 08/26/2003 1:43:09 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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I grant you that if this would have happened during the KKKlinton years, A(SS) P(rick) headlines would have been....MATH SAT Scores Reach 36-Year High under Clinton!! I pray this gaint news rag will sink like the NYSlimes!!
34 posted on 08/26/2003 1:43:45 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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SPOTREP
38 posted on 08/26/2003 2:03:15 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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BULLSHIT. This is due to re-centering.
63 posted on 08/26/2003 5:03:40 PM PDT by Libertarian4Bush ((west philly 750 math in the HAY-ouse))
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