Posted on 08/23/2003 11:27:34 AM PDT by freedumb2003
I suppose I could be convinced that McClintock could be the frontrunner, if there was enough consistent neutral polling to that effect. However, as a longtime student of California politics and demographics, I just don't see McClintock winning. The winner in major California elections is determined by what one commentator called "the capricious million" some 35 years ago: the 'moderate' voters who are turned off by appeals they see as ideological and who want to vote for someone they can feel good about. As I read this race, Arnold is the only 'pubbie who won't give those middle voters agina, and therefore, I think he's gonna be the guy. If McClintock really wants influence, he should get together with, and behind, Arnold now, while he has something to bargain with, and make a deal for conservative influence.
Alas, that's pretty much were things stand. Let's all pray that The Terminator and The Tominator get together.
Thanks
And he won;t give anyone his agenda... other than what we can see and hear thru his cutesy soundbites and Prop 49 support and offering of bringing back businesses to support socialist programs.
Yup..Arnie IS the man ... NOT.
NOT SO! In the long run (through 11/04) we are much better off with Davis in place as governor. California, as a terrible example of ultra-left wing dem rule is an advantage in the 2004 national election. If Davis is replaced by an honest person, we don't have that contrast.
But, that is now out of our hands. Your analysis is sound. McClintock is doctrinally better, Arnold more likely to win. We will never convince the purists amongst us to support Arnold and so it is likely to Cruz will win. Not the worst thing that could happen so long as the brave Republicans in the legilature hold their ground.
And, we will have our chance should Nader be coaxed from protecting his considerable wealth to run and/or Sharpton, McKinney, Moseley-Braun, etc. have the bravery and guts to buck the dems' racial hatred and run a ticket.
Remember, in California a Conservative is anyone to the right of Karl Marx."
Guilty as charged. can't get Hyerbole past FR ("I happen to know this is the Lupin Express!")
But seriously, a middle-lefter in California is a right-winder in the California Political Calculus. My point is that we need someone who can just keep the ship leaning less left.
Perhaps I should have added this. You are right in one of two senses:
Not trying to get McClintock is the planted axiom within "Bustamonte can't be allowed to win."
I was just mentioning today that "We can't afford to have a deficit" was Republican dogma before Kemp-Roth, and the planted axiom within that was, "Democrats will always get the credit with the public for 'social spending' and Republicans will always get the blame for high taxes to pay for it." That is, the planted axiom within the "taxes must be raised to cover spending" decision is "Republicans never are in the majority."
Watch out, O'Reilly may demand that Fox News Channel sue you...
Yes, that is my anabshed position. And I think it is the position of all right thinking californians. But there is still the "let the ship sink with the Left at the Helm" argument. But I stand behind my analysis and conculsions.
Thanks for getting the joke. Note that I waited until after that smarmy Franken jerk (who might have been funny 20 years ago) paved the way for me to use the term. But "I'll buy that For a Dollar" is mine until the Groove Tube folks sign on.
I would add my own fear is Arnold is not a fiscal conservative ....anymore
Peoples politics change .....Reagan was a Liberal Dem at one time..... Goldwater near the end of his life started going left (people forget he did work with Norman Lears group People for the American Way)
Also note that both Reagan & Goldwater were pulled the other direction by there wives
Alot of people though McCain was the second coming of Reagan at one time ...... Ted Turner was consider a conservative once.... and CNN was also to when it first started ......
Jim Rob is an ex Dem... so are a lot of freppers ....... and in most case it takes a while for that person to realized and make the change
At the very least watch Arnolds moves ... and his backtracks... dont assume
Peoples politics change
True and a valid concern. But absent any actual facts that suggest Arnold would turn the worm and present the MECHA leanings of Cruz B. I would submit this is not a criterion that should be used to evaluate this election.
I noted above my wild-card analysis, but at the end of the day I wouldn't let too much speculation guide your vote (assuming you are a current Californian).
You are too smart to wave the anti-Hispanic flag.
I know as many hard-right Hispanics as I do hard-left Socialists.
Stay away from tripping the Latino alarm.
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