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Republicans First or Conservatives First?
Media Research Center ^ | August 19, 2003 | Brent Bozell

Posted on 08/22/2003 9:03:09 AM PDT by TBP

The Arnold Schwarzenegger candidacy may become a classic contest for activists to decide whether they are Republicans or conservatives first. Republicans are urging everyone to jump on the bandwagon, to "wake up and smell the Arnie," to take the pragmatic step that will guarantee the ouster of incompetent Gov. Gray Davis.

But what do conservatives gain for this leap of faith? This movie star’s campaign still is not presenting any concrete positions, conservative or liberal. He would like to be seen as a fiscal conservative, but Schwarzenegger has signed no anti-tax pledge nor offered any spending cuts or bureaucratic reforms. Instead, he has touted advisers like Warren Buffett, last hailed by Ted Koppel as "the sage of Omaha" for opposing the Bush tax cuts. Buffett’s also been a financial booster of Senators Chris Dodd, Russ Feingold, Tom Harkin, and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

On social issues, conservatives gain nothing by elevating a Gov. Schwarzenegger. He told Cosmopolitan magazine "I have no sexual standards in my head that say this is good or this is bad." It also doesn’t help that adviser Buffett has been a massive funder of Planned Parenthood, the Vatican-bashing front group calling itself "Catholics for a Free Choice," and a bevy of other radical abortion proponents.

Some suggest Schwarzenegger’s leftist social views are irrelevant because this race is based on economics. But does anyone doubt that the 2004 Republican convention in New York would be dominated by media heavies tripping over themselves to get the governor of the nation’s most populous state to denounce the GOP platform on social issues as "out of the mainstream"? He would probably become the keynote speaker, or be at least as prominent on the podium as Christopher Reeve was for the Democrats the last time around, dominating one of the convention nights.

Conservatives should already notice what is happening in California coverage. The press is using Arnold to marginalize the right. On CNN, reporter Dan Lothian observed that "while Schwarzenegger has been connected to some conservative themes, like eliminating the car tax and voting for the anti-illegal immigrant measure Prop 187, his support of gay rights, abortion rights, and some gun control, [is] turning off the far right."

Lothian kept pounding: "For now, many conservatives are embracing Bill Simon who had impressive numbers but lost to Gray Davis last year, and state Senator Tom McClintock....The big question: Does Schwarzenegger even need the far right to win?" Lothian turned to USC professor Martin Kaplan, who added: "To the degree that Arnold Schwarzenegger tries to appeal to that far right vote, he will alienate the very moderate Republicans, independents, and moderate Democrats that he needs to put together a coalition."

The brain trust at CNN would relgate the philosophy of Ronald Reagan, that same philosophy that triggered two landslide election victories, to the "far right."And they wonder why their network is tanking.

CNN doesn’t care that Lothian’s utterly conventional labeling is at odds with its own network polls, that shows that it is Schwarzenegger’s "if it feels good do it" liberal positions on abortion and homosexuality that are out of the majority, out of the mainstream, and therefore better defined as "far left" than conservatives are defined as "far right." Why do these liberal media outlets always locate "the center" of our political spectrum somewhere in Massachusetts?

Lothian even hinted at marginalizing that massive and very real majority of Californians, the 59 percent who voted for the "anti-illegal immigrant" Proposition 187 back in 1994. You will never see Democrats described on CNN as "pro-illegal immigrant." Other reporters have used the appellation "anti-immigration" for that vote. Too many reporters leave out the nuance that you can be for Prop. 187 and for legal immigration. You can love your immigrant neighbors, and still think it’s a bad idea to provide a five-star menu of taxpayer-funded social services to people who have no respect for our legal system.

If desiring a legal, measured system of immigration that doesn’t encourage law-breaking puts you on the "far right," then where on the ideological spectrum do we place the judges and radical advocates who got this majority vote crushed? Once again, the media have described a political battle as between the "far right" and the "public interest," as propagandistic as that sounds.

The politics of Schwarzenegger may remain a mystery, but the politics of the "objective" press never really change. Conservatives have much to lose from creating a Frankenstein monster they can’t control, not to mention how the definition of "Republican" or "conservative" might be warped beyond recognition. Californians should just say no to the Schwarzeneggernaut.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: brentbozell; california; conservatism; conservatives; election; gop; jellyfish; liberalism; mcclintock; media; partyloyalty; personalities; principles; priorities; republicans; schwarzenegger; simon
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To: pogo101
I know what it's original purpose was supposed to demonstrate.

What it more demonstrates that Republican Liberals do not help elect conservatives.

Thus, there's no reason for conservatives to vote for a Liberal from the strongest argument the RINOs have put forward.

You're right about the 9th Circus. Clinton and Carter did that...still...the judicial situation of California is in bad shape. It has too few conservatives.

It's still quite clear that Liberal Republicans don't appoint conservative judges.

Conservatism has suffered under Liberal Republicans more than it has under Liberal Democrats.
221 posted on 08/22/2003 11:43:42 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Protagoras
It makes one wonder...

Why would someone embarrass themself so as these people do?

He hasn't got as clue, that's obvious.

So he plays dumb as if that's going to get him anywhere.

Go figure.

222 posted on 08/22/2003 11:43:42 AM PDT by South40 (Get Right Or Get Left)
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To: TheAngryClam


Well that maybe true but the percentages supporting each candidate is from the "Likely Voter" group and not the others. Of course if you know something they don't maybe you should correct their information. But to say these polls are a bunch of nothing is to stick your head in the sand. They may not be accurate and probably aren't but they do give trends and tend to place the public's view of the candidates in some relationship.

Replacement Candidates
At this early stage, 32 percent of all likely voters have not decided which of the candidates they would choose to replace Governor Davis, and the percentage is about that high in all voter groups. Among those who have decided, more would vote for Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger (23%) and Democrat Cruz Bustamante (18%) than any of the other 135 candidates on the ballot. Bustamante is the clear favorite of Democratic voters (34%), and Schwarzenegger among GOP voters (38%). Voters who want Davis removed favor Schwarzenegger over Bustamante (35% to 7%), while those who want Davis to stay favor Bustamante over Schwarzenegger (38% to 5%). A somewhat higher percentage of Latino likely voters favor Bustamante to Schwarzenegger (27% to 19%). San Francisco Bay Area residents show the strongest preference for Bustamante over Schwarzenegger (27% to 15%), while Other Southern California residents show the strongest preference for Schwarzenegger over Bustamante (26% to 15%).

And from the beginning of the candidate questions:
[Responses recorded for questions 5 to 20 are from likely voters only. All other responses are from all adults.] is the most important issue facing people in California

The info I presented in the first post is from Question #7, from likely voters.

223 posted on 08/22/2003 11:43:46 AM PDT by deport
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To: Roscoe
Straight out of the DNC talking points playbook.

Kinda like your beloved gun registration laws.

224 posted on 08/22/2003 11:44:05 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: South40
So he plays dumb as if that's going to get him anywhere.

It's not an act. Actually, I think he needs medical attention. From people with white jackets.

225 posted on 08/22/2003 11:45:47 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
You don't get it do you.

Texas conservatives didn't deal with limp-wristed RINOs.
California conservatives, traditionally, have dealt with limp-wristed RINOs.

Now, if you want to join up with groups actually trying to advance conservatism in America, you'd be more likely to work with the Democratic Liberals, because Republican Liberals have caused more to damage conservative chances than the Democratic Liberals.
226 posted on 08/22/2003 11:46:27 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Protagoras
It's not an act. Actually, I think he needs medical attention. From people with white jackets.

No...I've seen this many times only usually it a liberal tactic.

They back themselves into a corner and when faced with admitting they are wrong they play dumb.

I frequent a national politics debate forum where all voices are welcome. Roscoe reminds me of the dims there.

Check it out when you get time.

227 posted on 08/22/2003 11:49:28 AM PDT by South40 (Get Right Or Get Left)
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To: TBP
Women and Children First!
229 posted on 08/22/2003 12:18:04 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (was that already posted?)
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To: jfritsch
Enjoy Cruz.
233 posted on 08/22/2003 12:25:21 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: TBP
Principle over party.

That will be the epitaph on the GOP grave in CA. Reaan was just as liberal as Arnie was on social issues. Worse comes to worse we can vote him out in 06.Simon and McClintock don't have the numbers to even beat Cruz. Wake up people !
234 posted on 08/22/2003 12:26:50 PM PDT by John Lenin (Imagine there's no liberals, it's easy if you try)
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To: Maelstrom
Lungren wasn't a conservative, that's for sure.
235 posted on 08/22/2003 12:27:09 PM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: Texas_Dawg
I'd rather take a real socialist Democrat over a RINO Republican who'll screw you in the end.
236 posted on 08/22/2003 12:28:19 PM PDT by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: Texas_Dawg
There you go again.

RINOs promising to give CA Cruz because they can't get conservative support for Arnold.

RINOs...NEVER EVER EVER EVER support conservatism.

We need to do away with them.
237 posted on 08/22/2003 12:30:10 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Maelstrom
RINOs promising to give CA Cruz because they can't get conservative support for Arnold.

Who else might be governor? Give me a conservative that has a chance of winning and I'll vote for him.

238 posted on 08/22/2003 12:33:07 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
McClintock
239 posted on 08/22/2003 12:36:25 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Maelstrom
McClintock

If he had a chance I would. He doesn't currently, so I wouldn't.

240 posted on 08/22/2003 12:37:27 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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