God Bless Judge Roy Moore - Save the Ten Commandments

http://www.dondodd.com/zeiger/hans.html ^ | August 21, 2003 | Hans Zeiger

[CtPoliticsGuy]

In a recent piece of hate mail, I was taken to task for using the term "God-given rights." "GOD doesn't give rights; the CONSTITUTION does," wrote the critic from Surf City, California. Actually, the constitution acknowledges the rights that are established in the Ten Commandments of God. Like Mr. Surf City, Judge Myron Thompson misunderstood the relationship between God and government when he ruled that Alabama Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore cannot display the Ten Commandments.

In this iconic battle between American values and liberal secularism, every political and social debate that is worth the fight will be won or lost. The Ten Commandments must remain on display in Montgomery, Alabama and in the hearts of Americans from coast to coast.

We are blessed to live in a nation where the Ten Commandments are the basis of our system of law and justice, as well as of our common moral code and culture. The law of God alone contains the actual rights to life, liberty, and property. The commandments are universal repudiations of every attempt by individuals and governments to murder, enslave, and steal.

The Founding Fathers recognized that government cannot grant rights by the same token that it cannot take them away. Instead, "All men are created equal . . . they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights."

The genius of the constitutional Bill of Rights is that it respects the inalienable rights to life, liberty, and property granted by God. Instead of granting or creating rights, the Bill of Rights plainly asserts that government lacks certain rights. "Congress shall make no law . . ." "The right of the people . . . shall not be infringed." "The right of the people . . . shall not be violated." The Bill of Rights tells us what government cannot do.

But to become acquainted with the actual establishment of rights, we must turn to the moral law of God.

The First Commandment is, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." In response to this commandment, the Left talks about "freedom from religion." Yet from the First Commandment to the First Amendment, there is no such thing as freedom from religion.

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[agooga]

Where in the Constitution does it say we derive our rights from God? I thought that was the declaration of Independence.

[dennisw]

May G_d bless Judge Moore and help keep him strong

[strela]

God Bless Judge Roy Moore - Save the Ten Commandments

Are the Ten Commandments in danger of being destroyed?

[dennisw]

Are the Ten Commandments in danger of being destroyed? ......


Outside the Alabama Supreme Court the Ten Commandments is in danger of being destroyed. And you look like part of the crowd that wants it destroyed

[strela]

Outside the Alabama Supreme Court the Ten Commandments is in danger of being destroyed.

They is? I hates it when that happenz.

[At _War_With_Liberals]

You revealed yourself so quickly.

[sinkspur]

Outside the Alabama Supreme Court the Ten Commandments is in danger of being destroyed.

How?

[Texas Eagle]

And besides, The Constitution only prohibits CONGRESS from ESTABLISHING a religion.

Judge Roy Moore is not "Congress" nor is he establishing a religion. If anything, it would be more accurate to say Judge Moore's rights are being violated. He is being prohibited from the free exercise of his religion.

Of course the argument can be made that Judge Moore is perfectly free to believe The Ten Commandments......for now.

[strela]

You revealed yourself so quickly.

Nuh-uh. I had my webcam turned OFF.

So you apparently believe that a hunk of stone in front of an Alabama courthouse is the real, true, actual, no foolin' Ten Commandments. Instructive.

[Amelia]

If anything, it would be more accurate to say Judge Moore's rights are being violated. He is being prohibited from the free exercise of his religion.

I don't have a problem with the Ten Commandments monument, and I don't think it's unconstitutional, but I don't think your argument will fly...

If another judge wanted to put up a Wiccan or Buddhist or Hindu monument next to Judge Moore's monument (which is on public property, not the Judge's personal property), would you say the other Judge had a right to free exercise of his religion as well?

[dennisw]

So you apparently believe that a hunk of stone in front of an Alabama courthouse is the real, true, actual, no foolin' Ten Commandments. Instructive.

Actually it is. You can walk up to this stone monument and read the actual Ten Commandments. Not all folks are libertarian geniuses and some like a kindly and beautiful reminder of a cornerstone of Christianity, of Judaism, of Western law and Western civilization. Prideful fools mock such reminders

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

Creator=God

[TigersEye]

Where in the Constitution does it say we derive our rights from God? I thought that was the declaration of Independence.

The Declaration of Independence says this about that:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness--

The full text is here. The DoI declares our independence from Britain not our rights. It gives the reasons for it and the above is one of them.

[c-b 1]

These threads always deteriorate into personal attacks on Judge Moore, by a few. I don't understand why no one even exposes anything on Judge Myron Thompson, the ultra liberal Carter appointee, NAACP type who is legislating from the bench. He either doesn't know, or doesn't want to know where the Federal Government's authority ends.

[Texas Eagle]

If another judge wanted to put up a Wiccan or Buddhist or Hindu monument next to Judge Moore's monument (which is on public property, not the Judge's personal property), would you say the other Judge had a right to free exercise of his religion as well?

Yes. Would the ACLU?

[strela]

You can walk up to this stone monument and read the actual Ten Commandments.

Doggonit, did they take the TC out of the Bible AGAIN?

Not all folks are libertarian geniuses and some like a kindly and beautiful reminder of a cornerstone of Christianity, of Judaism, of Western law and Western civilization.

A few of us can see reminders of God's greatness just by looking out the window, at a sunset, or at a newborn baby. With some, I guess they need a hunk of rock even if the law says it is not proper to do so.

Prideful fools mock such reminders

Holier-than-thou, intolerant so-called "Christians" conveniently forget the parts of the Bible that state "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's ..." in order to attack others.

[TigersEye]

And besides, The Constitution only prohibits CONGRESS from ESTABLISHING a religion.

Not quite. It also prohibits Congress (the only law making body of the gov.) from making any laws respecting an establishment of religion meaning it can't make laws having to do with how the people establish religion thus the wording of it.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Notice how it says 'an establishment of religion' not 'the establishment of religion'. It covers both aspects completely. Congress can make no law instituting gov. mandated religion and no law respecting (concerning) religions that are established.

[c-b 1]

If another judge wanted to put up a Wiccan or Buddhist or Hindu monument next to Judge Moore's monument (which is on public property, not the Judge's personal property), would you say the other Judge had a right to free exercise of his religion as well?

I suspect the Liberal Judge Myron Thompson would rule that it was OK.

[strela]

I just have to wonder: How would those who believe that "The Ten Commandments Are Being Destroyed" in this thread feel if tax dollars were used to pay to put a Torah on the door of each courthouse and public building in the US?