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Egyptian Jurists Sue 'The Jews' for Compensation...of Gold Allegedly Stolen During Exodus from Egypt
Memri.org ^ | 8/09/03 | Dr. Nabil Hilmi, Dean of the Faculty of Law at the University of Al-Zaqaziq

Posted on 08/21/2003 12:48:59 PM PDT by adam_az

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To: adam_az
Do they cite the OT as a source, and if so, doesn't this then prove that the Arab world believes in the veracity of the OT? And, if that is true, doesn't this then mean that they must convert to Judaism or Christianity? LOL
101 posted on 08/22/2003 10:35:23 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: adam_az
My family has been poor for generations.

Whom do I sue for just compensation? ()

102 posted on 08/22/2003 10:52:25 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: FixitGuy
() was supposed to be (sarcasm 0ff)
103 posted on 08/22/2003 10:53:28 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: adam_az
Crazy. Hmm, maybe I should sue the French goverment for William The Conqueror's invasion of Britain in 1066. Heh!
104 posted on 08/22/2003 10:54:08 AM PDT by miloklancy
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To: adam_az
"If we assume that the weight of what was stolen was one ton, [its worth] doubled every 20 years.

Anyone out there buy gold about 20 years ago...1980 or so...Is this statement true???

105 posted on 08/22/2003 2:58:35 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: aruanan
The largest Islamic slaughter took place in India a few centuries ago.
106 posted on 08/23/2003 12:24:52 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Catspaw
I have not been able to nail down a mailing address for this "Dr. Nabil Hilmi", or the University of Al-Zaqaziq (altho there appears to be such a university, but I cannot find its mailing address), nor for his Swiss buddy, "Dr. Gamil Yaken" .... and there is no identification of the law firm handling their lawsuit nor of the court where it is (or will be) filed.

It would be Very Nice if anyone could ferret out these addresses - or any of them - and posted them so those of us who are potential defendants (i.e., Jews) could flood them with letters insisting that we be sent copies of the court papers and enabled to plead in our defense.

107 posted on 08/27/2003 6:30:07 AM PDT by DonQ
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108 posted on 05/18/2005 5:08:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Tuesday, May 10, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: adam_az
One word: Khutspe!
109 posted on 05/18/2005 5:14:36 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: adam_az

There are statutes of limitations for things like this.


110 posted on 05/18/2005 6:49:35 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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One word reply: reparations.

111 posted on 04/27/2006 10:06:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: kazatzkeh

Does this mean then, that modern Egyptians ADMIT that the Exodus is TRUE?


112 posted on 01/27/2007 11:24:35 AM PST by onedoug
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Hilmi: "Naturally, the Jews cast doubt on this story because that is in their interest. But the answer would be that the story is based on what is written in the Torah. It can be found in Exodus, [Chapter] 35, verses 12 through 36..."

So, under what Islamic interpretation is anyone suppose to define "theft" from Exodus Chapter 35, verses 12 to 35; given as follows (NIV, New International Version):

Exodus 35 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV)

1 Moses assembled the whole Israelite community and said to them, "These are the things the LORD has commanded you to do: 2 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death. 3 Do not light a fire in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.

4 Moses said to the whole Israelite community, "This is what the LORD has commanded: 5 From what you have, take an offering for the LORD. Everyone who is willing is to bring to the LORD an offering of gold, silver and bronze; 6 blue, purple and scarlet yarn and fine linen; goat hair; 7 ram skins dyed red and hides of sea cows [a] ; acacia wood; 8 olive oil for the light; spices for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense; 9 and onyx stones and other gems to be mounted on the ephod and breastpiece.

10 "All who are skilled among you are to come and make everything the LORD has commanded: 11 the tabernacle with its tent and its covering, clasps, frames, crossbars, posts and bases; 12 the ark with its poles and the atonement cover and the curtain that shields it; 13 the table with its poles and all its articles and the bread of the Presence; 14 the lampstand that is for light with its accessories, lamps and oil for the light; 15 the altar of incense with its poles, the anointing oil and the fragrant incense; the curtain for the doorway at the entrance to the tabernacle; 16 the altar of burnt offering with its bronze grating, its poles and all its utensils; the bronze basin with its stand; 17 the curtains of the courtyard with its posts and bases, and the curtain for the entrance to the courtyard; 18 the tent pegs for the tabernacle and for the courtyard, and their ropes; 19 the woven garments worn for ministering in the sanctuary—both the sacred garments for Aaron the priest and the garments for his sons when they serve as priests."

20 Then the whole Israelite community withdrew from Moses' presence, 21 and everyone who was willing and whose heart moved him came and brought an offering to the LORD for the work on the Tent of Meeting, for all its service, and for the sacred garments. 22 All who were willing, men and women alike, came and brought gold jewelry of all kinds: brooches, earrings, rings and ornaments. They all presented their gold as a wave offering to the LORD. 23 Everyone who had blue, purple or scarlet yarn or fine linen, or goat hair, ram skins dyed red or hides of sea cows brought them. 24 Those presenting an offering of silver or bronze brought it as an offering to the LORD, and everyone who had acacia wood for any part of the work brought it. 25 Every skilled woman spun with her hands and brought what she had spun—blue, purple or scarlet yarn or fine linen. 26 And all the women who were willing and had the skill spun the goat hair. 27 The leaders brought onyx stones and other gems to be mounted on the ephod and breastpiece. 28 They also brought spices and olive oil for the light and for the anointing oil and for the fragrant incense. 29 All the Israelite men and women who were willing brought to the LORD freewill offerings for all the work the LORD through Moses had commanded them to do.

30 Then Moses said to the Israelites, "See, the LORD has chosen Bezalel son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah, 31 and he has filled him with the Spirit of God, with skill, ability and knowledge in all kinds of crafts 32 to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver and bronze, 33 to cut and set stones, to work in wood and to engage in all kinds of artistic craftsmanship. 34 And he has given both him and Oholiab son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan, the ability to teach others. 35 He has filled them with skill to do all kinds of work as craftsmen, designers, embroiderers in blue, purple and scarlet yarn and fine linen, and weavers—all of them master craftsmen and designers.

So, is it not apparent, that we find an Egyptian's legal argument that only western Marxists could love; for in order for the above passages to be the basis of a charge of "theft", obviously, the possessions of "the Jews" must be considered the property of Pharoah's state and "the Jews" did not really have the right to even the clothes on their backs when they left!!!!

Or, maybe the learned Islamic cleric had poor memory and while he said Exodus Chapter 35, verses 12 to 36 was "the Jews" theft in their own words, maybe he meant Exodus Chapter 12, verses 35 and 36. Those verses come at the end of the plagues, and the killing of the Egyptian first born, visited on Egypt for the Pharoah's refusal to release the Jews from bondage; the release from bondage told in Chapter 12, just prior to verses 35-36, as follows:

Exodus Chapter 12, beginning at verse 29:

29And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

30And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.

31And he called for Moses and Aaron by night, and said, Rise up, and get you forth from among my people, both ye and the children of Israel; and go, serve the LORD, as ye have said.

32Also take your flocks and your herds, as ye have said, and be gone; and bless me also.

33And the Egyptians were urgent upon the people, that they might send them out of the land in haste; for they said, We be all dead men.

34And the people took their dough before it was leavened, their kneading troughs being bound up in their clothes upon their shoulders.

35And the children of Israel did according to the word of Moses; and they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment:

36And the LORD gave the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they lent unto them such things as they required. And they despoiled the Egyptians.

37And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children.

38And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.

So, here we have it: "they borrowed of the Egyptians jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment".

But, if the Islamic lawyers want to use that as their basis, then "the Jews", on the same basis, should argue that the "borrowing" was mere part payment for the 430 years of bondage in Egypt, attested to throughout the entire proof source of Exodus; and should then counter sue for the balance of the payment needed to render "Egypt" pardoned of the sin of slavery of "the Jews".

113 posted on 04/03/2007 10:21:19 AM PDT by Wuli
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I am pretty sure George Soros now has that gold...go after him...LOL


114 posted on 04/03/2007 11:03:39 AM PDT by free_life
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