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End of Days: Prediction: Democrats take California in a walk.
The American Prowler ^ | 8/20/2003 | Jeremy Lott

Posted on 08/20/2003 1:01:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Who says Arnold S's strategy of not talking to reporters and not announcing policy positions isn't paying off? Why, he's already won the support of Rob Lowe and M.C. Hammer. In fact, his chief financial adviser, Warren Buffett, made all kinds of headlines last week when he argued to the Wall Street Journal that the property-tax-limiting Proposition 13 should be revisited and rejiggered. The prospect of another exodus of rich Californians had a salutary effect on tax officials in surrounding states, struggling to balance their own budgets, who could be heard chanting, "Go Arnold go!"

Republicans hopefully point to Governor Gray Davis's low poll numbers and the loss of control that has descended on the old pol, like a tornado taking Dorothy's house for a spin. According to this interpretation, the gov is being tossed about by events and wailing against the wind to no discernible effect. The more he tries to be relevant, the more incompetent he looks, the more comfortable voters get with booting him. Sacramento Bee columnist Daniel Weintraub, whose coverage of the recall effort has been unrivaled, now thinks it "possible" that Davis will resign to avoid a 70 to 30 drubbing come October 7.

Anything's possible but I doubt it and, to be fair, so does Weintraub: We've now reached the dreaded Bengal Tiger phase of the election. The Democrat dominated legislature convened in Sacramento on Monday with one and only one goal in mind: Keep our party in power. For the next four weeks, they will try to do this through a combination of payoffs to liberal constituencies, feel good legislation, and bills aimed at splitting the Republicans down the middle. And it's likely to work.

In addition to defending the absurdly lavish pensions system that Davis signed into law in 1999 -- where some state workers get to retire on 90 percent of their previous pay -- Gray and company have a whole bag of treats to hand out. Start with drivers licenses, with de facto voting rights, for illegal immigrants. Add in a gay partners bill that is almost Vermontean in scope. Just for kicks, toss in kid gloves treatment of Indian casinos and a possible bill that could give tribes the ability to hobble developments within five miles of anything defined as traditional burial grounds. Democrats in the legislature are playing with the idea of cutting the car tax back to its previous level, and paying for it by raising taxes on the rich and smokers (e.g., the poor). As a tax swap, this would get around the two-thirds supermajority requirement for tax hikes, and rob members of the opposition of the ability to vote the bill down.

Taxes, immigration, gay rights, special treatment for the tribes and public sector unions: These are issues that Republicans should own, but the dynamics of the race will make that very difficult. Schwarzenegger has already endorsed gay rights. Is he now going to oppose the partnership bill because it's too costly? His advisers are sending mixed messages on taxes, for good reason: Mismanagement of the energy crisis left the state struggling under a $30 plus billion deficit, and nobody -- except maybe Tom McClintock -- has any idea how to escape this fiscal trap. Illegal immigration could be a winning issue but it's one that scares the hell out of Republicans.

Also, there are four serious elephants in the race and none of them is going to make headlines by agreeing with the others. The electoral din will more than validate snobbish criticism that this contest is, yes, a < a href="http://www.spectator.org/article.asp?art_id=2003_7_27_23_47_5">three-ring circus, with lions and marching band.

Even if voters do narrowly vote to bounce Davis, the anti-recall sentiment should be enough to install Lieutenant Governor Cruz Bustamante behind the governor's desk. Though it was roundly mocked at the outset, the "No on recall, yes on Bustamante" slogan was pretty shrewd. In a divided field, Bustamante only needs a plurality to win. By turning himself into the anti-recall candidate, as well as the sole standard bearer for his party -- should Davis flounder, of course -- the unimpressive pol has changed the calculus of the whole race. The fact that Bustamante is quite a ways to the left of Davis should cause some conservative voters to change their mind about recall altogether. Given Bustamante's past as a Chicano activist, and Davis's usual demeanor, I suppose we should chalk up another victory for the brown shirt–stuffed shirt coalition.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: California
KEYWORDS: bustemente; davis; democrat; gop; recall; republicans; schwarenegger; schwarzenrino; vote4mcclintock
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1 posted on 08/20/2003 1:01:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Of course it assumes voters are resigned to Large Breasts' $ 8 billion tax increase proposal. If he does get elected on his Walter Mondull platform California deserves to slide off into the Pacific Ocean. The rest of the country never need look back.
2 posted on 08/20/2003 1:04:41 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nickcarraway
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3 posted on 08/20/2003 2:04:42 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: nickcarraway
If democrats win California again then it's time to throw in the towel and give it to Mexico. It's toast.
4 posted on 08/20/2003 2:08:24 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: goldstategop
If he (Bustamente) does get elected on his Walter Mondull platform California deserves to slide off into the Pacific Ocean.

Hypothetical question: Could the Republicans immediately go for yet another recall if that happened?

5 posted on 08/20/2003 2:17:44 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: nickcarraway

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!

6 posted on 08/20/2003 2:49:18 AM PDT by risk
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To: nickcarraway
Hillary Rodham Clinton attacks Bush
and the California Recall is being hijacked.

Then comes the blackout. How timely.

A little distraction, while the wheels
keep turning...

California is about to give MILLIONS
of illegial immigrants drivers licenses.

And register them to vote.

Is California a joke?

It won't be funny, when the population
of California selects the next president of the
the United States.

MILLIONS of illegals, who will then be led by the hand
to vote Democrat when they register for their Drivers Licenses.

And then, add to that, a computer touch-screen
system that is vulnerable to fraud and hacking.

Hillary and Her Friends are practicing
the Art of Making the Impossible
Possible, and this time it's going to make
her the President of the United States.
7 posted on 08/20/2003 3:09:07 AM PDT by Joy Angela (Freep Hillary at a Book Signing Now!)
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To: nickcarraway
Who says Arnold S's strategy of not talking to reporters and not announcing policy positions isn't paying off?

There is something to be said for this strategy. They can't nail you for something you didn't say. They can't twist words that didn't come out of your mouth. Mums the word. If you can't keep mum keep it vague. If you must move from vaguery, keep it in the most general sense possible. If pressed for specifics, have your secretary remind you of a pressing engagement or just do the "Sorry, I'm out of time. It's been great to be here with you, but I really have to run- campaigning is hard work! I love you folks..."

8 posted on 08/20/2003 3:40:15 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: grania
Nope. Not for at least six months. I think its better to let Large Breasts and the Democrats hang themselves with their own rope.
9 posted on 08/20/2003 3:46:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
I think its better to let Large Breasts and the Democrats hang themselves with their own rope.

I have thought the same thing. With Bustamante, the Dems are saying "give us just one more chance". If he wins, and the state doesn't turn around, they could be in the wilderness (as far as the gov's office goes) for years.

10 posted on 08/20/2003 4:58:06 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird
So let me get this straight. "Large Breasts" is the Lieutenant Governor but he has nothing to do with what the Doofus has done. They don't talk or consult each other? He's not only lying (he is a RAT after all), but he's also stupid.
11 posted on 08/20/2003 5:48:29 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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I'm not familiar with the Lt. Gov role in California, but in many states it's a bucket of warm spit. I'm not defending Bustamante at all, but I really don't know how much input he's had on the California debacle.
12 posted on 08/20/2003 6:06:24 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: grania
What would be the point?
13 posted on 08/20/2003 6:07:53 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Mr. Bird; goldstategop
If [bustamante] wins, and the state doesn't turn around, [dems] could be in the wilderness (as far as the gov's office goes) for years.

I disagree. Not with the cultivated Nanny-state mentality of the electorate out there.

Say an 8-yr old's mommy is wrong about something, does the 8-yr old sack his mommy? No. He cries and pouts. He does nothing to make the situation better (he can't) and just waits for Mommy [Dems] to fix it.

Sadly, that's the metaphor that makes sense to me for Kalifornia.

14 posted on 08/20/2003 7:14:40 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
What would be the point?

If Bustamente were to win and go as far overboard as a lot of freepers fear, would it be possible to get rid of him in a recall? Otherwise, he would have a free ticket to just hand California to all of the nutcases who want it to be part of Mexico or whatever.

15 posted on 08/20/2003 7:43:01 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: grania
First, Davis was re-elected after he PROVED that he was absolutely incapable of running the state.

If the people of California are so stupid as to select Bustemonte after he has already revealed that he is a political clone of Davis, what makes you think that giving them a THIRD chance in as many years to correct a wrong will do any good?
16 posted on 08/20/2003 7:50:09 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: nickcarraway
Weird selection process! Seems to me that if you vote to retain Gray Davis, you shouldn't be allowed a selection (Bustamante) in the second part of the ballot question.

That is like being allowed to vote for Ralph Nader, but have your vote switched to Al Gore if it looks like Gore will be defeated by (gasp) a Republican. Where's the fairness in that?

17 posted on 08/20/2003 8:03:03 AM PDT by Tallguy (Just taking life with a grain of salt....oh, and a slice of lime and a shot of tequila...)
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To: nickcarraway
I heard one of Davis' campaign ads yesterday; according to him, this recall thing is all about Republicans "stealing elections". Straight out of Clinton's mouth to Davis' ear! Never let the voters (especially minorities)forget about Florida and how that election was "stolen" nor how the California governor's election is being "stolen" also.
18 posted on 08/20/2003 8:34:05 AM PDT by Maria S ("..I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton. I think this is the end" Uday H.)
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To: Monty22
Making California part of Mexico will mean that no Mexican will want to live there; they'll immigrate elsewhere. Maybe this is the solution to illegal immigration.
19 posted on 08/20/2003 9:52:59 AM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: Prodigal Son
They can't nail you for something you didn't say.

Well, Simon's tried to nail Arnold with support for tripling property tax, something he's never said.

20 posted on 08/20/2003 9:54:58 AM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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