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Day Before 10 Commandments D-Day: Ambassadore Keyes on Hannity

Posted on 08/19/2003 3:01:13 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March

Alan Keyes is calling on everyone within driving distance to rally in Alabama with him-- a candlelight vigil tomorrow at 7:00 PM. Keyes is fired up about this. Mike Savage is fired up about this. Hannity asked Ambassadore Keyes if Judge Roy Moore might land in jail. Keyes replied, "Only if I go to jail with him!"

Judge Roy Moore will be on Hannity tomorrow night. Whoever can't go [I can't go-- wish I could], please pray for these patriots.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: Alabama; US: Florida; US: Georgia; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; judgemoore; tencommandments
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To: Robert_Paulson2
"Oh so now, the lawbreaking judge moore is on the same page with Jesus?"

Good heavans! Moore is a lawbreaker? That would mean that congress breaks the law every time they pay a minsister, and the Supreme Court justices break the law every time they walk past their own 10 Commandments monument. Where in the Constitution does the Federal Court have authority to deny a state court the same monument that the Supreme Court has had for ages and ages?
101 posted on 08/20/2003 2:57:23 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Don't confuse liberals with the facts.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Moore is not your typical judge. After graduating from West Point he served for five years in Vietnam before entering law school at the University of Alabama. Prior to his first judicial appointment in 1992, he studied full-contact karate, won his first kick boxing match, and completed a five-month trek across the Australian outback.

Though he has traveled widely, Moore has never strayed from his roots in Etowah County, Alabama. Growing up in what he called a “poor Christian home” and admiring a father who “lived what he believed,” Moore learned to honor God, cherish family, and love his country. Following law school, he served as deputy district attorney in Etowah County and later established his own private practice. In 1992, he was appointed Circuit Judge of the 16th Judicial Circuit, where he gained notoriety for displaying a plaque of the Ten Commandments. Then in 2000, Moore was elected to serve as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. A devout Christian and father of four children, Moore is not surprised by the controversy that has surrounded his public service. “When you do what you believe, you are going to run into problems,” he says.

Recently, PBS commentator Bill Moyers commented on Christian conservatives like Moore. “[F]or the first time in the memory of anyone alive,” he writes in a commentary posted on PBS’ website, “the entire federal government—the Congress, the Executive, the Judiciary—is united behind a right-wing agenda for which George W. Bush believes he now has a mandate.” The root cause of Moyers’ concern appears to be Christians who take their role in politics seriously: “And if you like God in government,” he added, “get ready for the Rapture. These folks don’t even mind you referring to the GOP as the party of God. Why else would the new House Majority Leader [Tom DeLay] say that the Almighty is using him to promote ‘a Biblical worldview’ in American politics?”

What Moyers and others liberals are so bothered about is not Christianity, but true Christianity, biblical Christianity, activist Christianity. Moore’s opponents—three Alabama attorneys represented by the American Civil Liberties Union, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and Americans United for Separation of Church and State—see references to God on a monument as a threat to the establishment of the official state religion, atheism. Morris Dees, the co-founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center, even went so far as to call Moore “a religious nut.” After all, Moore is a man who, wearing his judge’s robes, can often be found citing one of his trademark poems: “Choosing godless judges, we’ve thrown reason out the door/Too soft to put a killer in a well-deserved tomb, but brave enough to kill that child before it leaves the womb/ . . . you think that God’s not angry that this land is a moral slum?”

One of Moore’s attorneys, Herbert Titus, the former dean of the law school at Regent University, said Moore’s judicial philosophy is really quite simple. Moore believes that there is a “moral foundation of law with the acknowledgment that God is the source of that foundation.”

Moore could not be more right. The sad truth is that most Americans, brainwashed by the government school system, don’t even know that the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution had no concept of the so-called “separation of church and state” that is so prevalent in today’s court system. As William Rehnquist, Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, has stated, “The separation of church and state is a metaphor based on bad history and worse law. It has made a positive chaos out of judgments, and it should be frankly and explicitly abandoned.”

When the First Amendment was being debated, the phrase “separation of church and state” was never used by the 90 men who framed it. “The First Amendment restricts only Congress,” says Dr. D. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Ministries and founder of the Center for Reclaiming America. “It was created to restrain the federal government.” Many Founding Fathers, including Patrick Henry and George Washington, refused to sign the Constitution unless it had a set of protections for the people against a potentially all-powerful federal government.

“Once we let the government believe it is the source of our liberties, we are never safe,” says Dr. Kennedy. The Declaration of Independence states the purpose of government very clearly—to secure God-given “unalienable rights.” That is the primary justification Thomas Jefferson gave for having government. Thus, apart from a recognition of God-given rights, there is no legitimate foundation for government. Indeed, government cannot be secular, because government’s purpose is to secure rights—and blessings—that come from God. And if government cannot be secular, why should we expect our elected officials to be secular?
Dr. Kennedy’s description of the true Christian statesman bears repeating here.

· First and foremost, a Christian statesman is one who repents of his sins, believes the gospel, trusts in the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ, and invites God by His Spirit to dwell in his heart.

· Secondly, a true Christian statesman seeks to live a life guided by God’s Word and desires to make his days count for the kingdom of God.

· Finally, a true Christian statesman is one whose public and private conduct is guided by a bedrock set of principles that will not be compromised for personal or political gain. Such a person rises above partisan politics and makes the overall welfare of a nation his first priority.

In short, says Dr. Kennedy, a Christian statesman is someone whose commitment to Christ and love of country compel him to stand for truth and righteousness in government. Such a person recognizes that individuals (as well as nations) will ultimately give an account to God and are dependent on Him for prosperity and success.
Need a good picture of a Christian statesman? Then take a look at Roy Moore.

And to Justice Moore I say, “Keep on fighting the good fight.” You are not alone. As another fearless defender of the Constitution once said: “In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength” (Robert E. Lee).

by David Alan Black

http://www.southerncaucus.org/213.htm
102 posted on 08/20/2003 3:05:17 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Republic
"What's next? Denying congress and the senate the right to open with a prayer each day? Stripping in God we Trust off the money? Suing our politicians every tim they acknowledge faith in the Lord?" Yep, I'd say you have a pretty good description of where this is going. The people behind the tearing down of The Ten Commandments want to remove all reference to God In America . This is not the 1st time they have done this. Here is another example of the Commandments being ripped out. Unfortunatley, with this one , they successfully destroyed them. What no one in the media mentioned , (not even Fox news,) was that The Commandments were part of an entire display on the formation of Law. You had all these other things represented , showing how Law came to be, and then this gaping hole were The Ten Commandments were torn out of the display (ridiculous). It gets even better, because the guy who wanted them taken out wants to put up a giant penis statue for his "church". Here is the story, read the posts too. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925945/posts We have to tell these people enough is enough. The Ten Commandments are part of how the concept of Law came to be. This is HISTORICAL FACT. There is nothing wrong with them being displayed in a court. They are pictured on the Supreme Court in a carving (see link for a picture of this) We have to say "No more of this destruction of our religious heritage" . If they don't like it, they can move out. They have had way too many successes in attacking God and pushing their Atheism on us. Big deal, that there's a display of the Ten Commandments. It's not hurting ANYONE. If your "offended" by what's written in them, you're no better than the scum-bag terrorists who try to justify blowing up little babies as "a Holy act pleasing to God"- Get out of my country. Here is another story about what it's like to have to fight for your religious freedom on a daily basis. At least we haven't come to this point yet. Click on the name of FreepForever, who posted it, for some sobering enlightenment. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938379/posts This is as good a time as any to make a stand against the anti-God crew.
103 posted on 08/20/2003 3:05:48 AM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democratic party. Save the USA-Vote a democrat out of offic)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
You are right. Moore is a criminal. His crime, doing what the Federal Supreme Court did. How dare he? What a jerk! We all just want to forget those petty laws, re-program homophobes, and kneel down before the ACLU. Indeed, that is the future. So get out of the way and assume the position. WE DON'T DESERVE GOD'S BLESSINGS ANYWAY. We deserve sodomy forced upon us if we kneel before it. Just as they sought to rape the angels of Sodom and Gammorah, they seek to infiltrate our classrooms and place transvestite bathrooms in every school.

When's the last time a significant conservative leader other than Mike Savage or Jerry Falwell spoke out out Piss Christ and/or Corpus Christi? OUR TAX MONEY HAS PAID FOR THAT! What have conservative leaders done about it? NOTHING! What do our conservative leaders deserve? They deserve to be thrown in a vat of urine and be raped by a gang of sodomites. That's the truth of it. The question is, do you deserve that?
104 posted on 08/20/2003 3:06:29 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Don't confuse liberals with the facts.)
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To: comnet
bump
105 posted on 08/20/2003 3:11:31 AM PDT by visualops (Nothing is fool-proof to a talented fool.)
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To: fly_so_free
Ooops links in my post didn't work-Previous story about Ten Commandments being removed http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925945/posts and the story about religious freedom http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938379/posts
106 posted on 08/20/2003 3:15:43 AM PDT by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democratic party. Save the USA-Vote a democrat out of offic)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
#38...What are you talking about????????????

Coral Ridge Ministries is the home of Dr.D.James Kennedy.....a well known, well respected author and Presybeterian pastor!

You keep going around to the different threads spewing this garbage & trying to convince unknowing folks that you know something they don't!

107 posted on 08/20/2003 3:19:12 AM PDT by Guenevere (..., ..Press on!)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
...and another thing!

Dr.D.James Kennedy is as far removed from your idea of so called televangelism as earth is from Mars!

Dr.Kennedy is a refined, sophisticated, much learned, articulate author & yes, he does have radio time, and TV time, but he is as far removed from what you're spounting as one can be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get your facts straight!

108 posted on 08/20/2003 3:23:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (..., ..Press on!)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You know, Chancellor Palpatine, my response was not given in a very Christianlike tone, and for that I apologize.

I would like to say this more nicely.
Please Google on Coral Ridge Ministries, and read about Dr.Kennedy and what he stands for, and the ministries he has started ....
..he's been around for a long, long time....there is nothing 'fly by night' about him.

Now, I certainly know about the Couches.....they are a different televangelist ministry altogther.
Whether you question their techniques or not, they still reach folks.....maybe not you.....or me.

Again, I just ask you not to besmirk the good name of Coral Ridge Ministries....
..and to forgive my harsh tone.
Thanks.

109 posted on 08/20/2003 3:37:53 AM PDT by Guenevere (..., ..Press on!)
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To: billbears
thanx for this bump
110 posted on 08/20/2003 3:40:53 AM PDT by Ff--150 (I believe, I receive)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
10 Commandments
showdown tonight

Alabama chief justice must remove Decalogue display before midnight

Posted: August 20, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Defenders of "Ten Commandments judge" Roy Moore are preparing a midnight vigil at the deadline tonight for the federal court order requiring him to remove his monument from the Alabama state judicial building.

Yesterday, a federal appeals court declined Moore's request to lift the order. The Alabama chief justice had asked the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to reconsider its decision until the U.S. Supreme Court can rule on a petition by Moore to intervene.


Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore

As WorldNetDaily reported, U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson issued an ultimatum to Moore Aug. 5 to remove the washing machine-sized granite monument inscribed with the Ten Commandments. Alabama could face a fine of about $5,000 for each day the testimonial remains beyond Thompson's deadline tonight.

Thompson has said Moore could move the monument to a less public site, such as the chief justice's office.

Moore lost an appeal July 1 at the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which upheld Thompson's earlier ruling that the monument, due to its placement in the rotunda of the Judicial Building, was a violation of the establishment clause of the Constitution's First Amendment. The original suit was brought by the American Civil Liberties Union.

Another group that filed suit against Moore, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, contends the judge set up the confrontation with the federal courts to advance his political agenda.

Thompson wrote in his order that Moore, "for seemingly 'extra-judicial' reasons known only to him, intentionally created the scenario from which he now contends ... he should be extricated ... . The court will not be a party to any extra-judicial machinations of the Chief Justice."

A Washington, D.C.-based activist group defending the chief justice, the Christian Defense Coalition, said it will hold a rally at 7:30 tonight at the Alabama Supreme Court, followed by a prayer vigil on the steps of the court building at 12:01 a.m.

About 4,000 people, including Rev. Jerry Falwell, attended a rally Saturday in Montgomery to support Moore and the display.

Among Moore's supporters are Jewish rabbis, but a fellow Southern Baptist leader contends the chief justice has gone too far.

Southern Baptist church-state specialist Richard Land believes Moore's display is constitutional, but opposes his methods, reported Baptist Press, a denominational news service.


Ten Commandments monument at Alabama court house (Photo: Wsfa.com)

"However much sympathy I may have for Judge Moore's beliefs and convictions about the Ten Commandments and the role they have played in Western civilization and American jurisprudence, I am dismayed at the prospect of a judge defying a court order," said Land, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission.

"One of the foundational principles of American law is that we believe in the rule of law," he told Baptist Press

However, Rabbi Yehuda Levin, who claims to represent 1,000 rabbis and 750,000 Orthodox Jews in two national organizations, showed his support for Moore in a special ceremony on the judicial building steps Friday, the Birmingham News reported.

The rabbi blessed the judge with a special prayer and presented him with an embroidery bearing the Ten Commandments.

"May the Author of the Decalogue give you the strength and the fortitude to be successful in your righteous struggle and be an effective leader in the public arena for years to come," Levin told Moore, according to the Birmingham paper.

Levin said he represents the Rabbinical Alliance of America and the Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the United States and Canada.

The rabbi said he was embarrassed one of the lawyers suing to have the Ten Commandments removed, Stephen Glassroth, is Jewish, the paper reported.

"This to many people throughout America represents Judaism," Levin said, according to the Birmingham daily. "God forbid. That's why I'm here."

Glassroth filed a complaint Thursday with the Judicial Inquiry Commission, which could decide to suspend Moore.

Alabama Attorney General William Pryor – an observant Roman Catholic engaged in a contentious battle over his nomination by President Bush to a federal judgeship – has promised to ensure Thompson's order is obeyed.

Moore declared Thursday he has "no intention of removing the monument of the 10 Commandments and the moral foundation of our law."

He insisted, "I have maintained the rule of law. I have been true to the oath of my office. I can do no more, and I can do no less – so help me God."

As WND reported, last month the U.S. House of Representatives voted to withhold funds from any enforcement action related to the Ten Commandments monument. The vote was 260-161.


Moore wrote a treatise on his battle to retain the monument in the July issue of Whistleblower magazine, WND's monthly print publication.

In the August issue, entitled "LAW-LESS: Why many Americans fear attorneys and judges more than terrorists," Roy Moore is the subject of an in-depth profile. Subscribe to Whistleblower magazine.


Related stories:

Judge Moore stands firm

Backers of 10 Commandments to rally

'10 Commandments judge' given ultimatum

House rebuffs court on 10 Commandments

Judge Moore to appeal to Supreme Court

Judge loses 10 Commandments appeal

10 Commandments judge defies court order

Hundreds rally for '10 Commandments judge'

'10 Commandments judge' continues fight

Experts disagree over 10 Commandments

111 posted on 08/20/2003 3:49:26 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** God may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; Luis Gonzalez; Chancellor Palpatine; BamaG; gitmogrunt; Matchett-PI
Moore lost an appeal July 1 at the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which upheld Thompson's earlier ruling that the monument, due to its placement in the rotunda of the Judicial Building, was a violation of the establishment clause of the Constitution's First Amendment. The original suit was brought by the American Civil Liberties Union.

Another group that filed suit against Moore, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, contends the judge set up the confrontation with the federal courts to advance his political agenda.

Thompson wrote in his order that Moore, "for seemingly 'extra-judicial' reasons known only to him, intentionally created the scenario from which he now contends ... he should be extricated ... . The court will not be a party to any extra-judicial machinations of the Chief Justice."

Sad that some Freepers actually find themselves in agreement with these communist activists.

112 posted on 08/20/2003 3:58:23 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** God may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Times like these try men's souls. This is a cause worth going to jail for - establishing the principle that even while the state may erase our nation's religious heritage from the public square, it cannot take away the inalienable rights bestowed upon us by the same Creator, who in his infinite wisdom as Supreme Judge Of The World, gave us laws to live our lives by. This principle of inalienable rights that are God-given is worth going to jail for because it is above all an issue of conscience. I cannot and will go no further.
113 posted on 08/20/2003 3:59:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine; Guenevere
Guenevere is absolutely right about this. Coral Ridge Ministries is based at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church, and has no affiliation with TBN except that they buy time on that channel, as does Robert Schuller's Crystal Cathedral.

I happen to know someone who was on staff at Coral Ridge some years ago, and it was a fine ministry.

I don't think it helps to add erroneous comments to an already tense discussion.

114 posted on 08/20/2003 4:10:04 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: BamaG
Justice Gorman Houston, the senior associate justice on the state Supreme Court, convened the other associate justices "to assure that the state of Alabama is 'a government of laws and not of men,' as our Constitution requires."

That's mighty fine rhetoric there. Perhaps Justice Houston can show us the law that Justice Thomas is citing in his court ruling against Justice Moore? Hmmmm?

115 posted on 08/20/2003 4:13:40 AM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Supreme Court. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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To: BamaG
These are not qualities that I would pick in a warrior for God

God didn't ask you.

As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

I guess God picks whom He will, and equips 'em with whatever character and sense of self He sees fit.

116 posted on 08/20/2003 4:19:21 AM PDT by Churchjack
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
So does Alan plan on getting a real job soon, or does he just plan to live off his borrowed campaign funds that he won't pay back?

Get back to the field, Alan. There's cotton needs picking. /sarcasm

117 posted on 08/20/2003 4:20:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Supreme Court. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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To: TigersEye
Yeah, Alan is definitely off the CINO reservation...
118 posted on 08/20/2003 4:24:53 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( http://www.fairtax.org ** God may not be a Republican, but Satan is definitely a Democrat!)
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To: Churchjack
and you don't know that God picked Moore.

Any loudmouth who claims to be a soldier of God is A-OK with you?
119 posted on 08/20/2003 4:29:42 AM PDT by BamaG
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Oh so now, the lawbreaking judge moore is on the same page with Jesus?

Hopefully no one will stand with Jesus! /sarcasm

120 posted on 08/20/2003 4:35:19 AM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Supreme Court. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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