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Exporting Jobs
Capitalism Magazine ^ | August 19, 2003 | Walter Williams

Posted on 08/19/2003 10:13:15 AM PDT by luckydevi

Exporting Jobs by Walter Williams (August 19, 2003)

Summary: It'd make far more sense for Americans to start attacking the real sources that have contributed to making foreign operations more attractive to those at home. It's more effective than caving to the rhetoric of leftist and rightist interventionists who mislead us with slogans like, "How can any American worker compete with workers paid one and two dollars an hour?" when in reality our real competition is mostly with European workers earning a lot more.

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Among George Orwell's insightful observations, there's one very worthy of attention: "But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought." Let's look at a few examples of corrupted language, thought and information.

Pretend you're a customs inspection agent. There's a cargo container awaiting a ship bound for foreign shores. You ask the shipper, who works for a big corporation, what's in the container. He answers, "It's a couple of thousand jobs that we're exporting overseas to a low-wage country."

What questions might you ask? How about, "What kind of jobs are in the container?" or, "Are they America's high-paying jobs?" Most people would probably say: "You're an idiot! You can't bundle up jobs and ship them overseas!"

A job is not a good or service; it can't be imported or exported. A job is an action, an act of doing a task. The next time a right- or left-wing politician or union leader talks about exporting jobs overseas, maybe we should ask him whether he thinks Congress should enact a law mandating U.S. Customs Service seizure of shipping containers filled with American jobs.

Let's turn to the next part of the exporting jobs nonsense, namely that corporations are driven solely by the prospect of low wages. Let's begin with a question: Is the bulk of U.S. corporation overseas investment, and hence employment of foreigners, in high-wage countries, or is it in low-wage countries?

The statistics for 1996 are: Out of total direct U.S. overseas investment of $796 billion, nearly $400 billion was made in Europe (England received 18 percent of it), next was Canada ($91 billion), then Asia ($140 billion), Middle East ($9 billion) and Africa ($7.6 billion). Foreign employment by U.S. corporations exhibited a similar pattern, with most workers hired in high-wage countries such as England, Germany and the Netherlands. Far fewer workers were hired in low-wage countries such as Thailand, Colombia and Philippines, the exception being Mexico.

The facts give a different story from the one we hear from the left-wing and right-wing anti-free trade movement. These demagogues would have us believe that U.S. corporations are rushing to exploit the cheap labor in places like the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Rwanda and Ethiopia. Surely with average wages in these countries as low as $10 per month, it would be a darn sight cheaper than locating in England, Germany and Canada, where average wages respectively are: $12, $17 and $16 an hour.

Let's look at a few of the reasons why some U.S. corporations choose to carry their operations overseas. Much of it can be summed up in a phrase: less predatory government and the absence of tort-lawyer extortion. While foreign governments can't be held guiltless of predation, their forms of predation might be cheaper to deal with than those of our EEOC, OSHA, EPA and IRS. Plus, tort lawyer extortion and harassment in foreign countries is a tiny fraction of ours. With each tort lawyer extortion and expansion of predatory regulations at federal, state or local levels of government, foreign operations become more attractive to U.S. corporations. Free trade helps make those costs explicit. American workers are just about the most productive in the world -- however, our government and legal establishment have reduced that productive advantage.

It'd make far more sense for Americans to start attacking the real sources that have contributed to making foreign operations more attractive to those at home. It's more effective than caving to the rhetoric of leftist and rightist interventionists who mislead us with slogans like, "How can any American worker compete with workers paid one and two dollars an hour?" when in reality our real competition is mostly with European workers earning a lot more.


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To: Texas_Dawg
Another sign of decline is a kind of late imperial complacency about the future, even when the signs of trouble are everywhere.

In declining empires you see the Theodosius, Olivares, Joseph Chamberlain, etc who saw what was coming and tried to discard doomed policies and adapt. But they failed because the Texas_Dawg's around them shrugged that everything was AOK, the empire was God's Will and therefore eternal and present problems would just go away.
121 posted on 08/20/2003 7:24:24 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: Tokhtamish
In declining empires you see the Theodosius, Olivares, Joseph Chamberlain, etc who saw what was coming and tried to discard doomed policies and adapt. But they failed because the Texas_Dawg's around them shrugged that everything was AOK, the empire was God's Will and therefore eternal and present problems would just go away.

Yes, only if you run around screaming that the sky is falling and we're all going to die at every new development, good or bad, are you really perceptive and not naive.

122 posted on 08/20/2003 7:26:30 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: lelio
In fact, the poor have a harder chance of moving up today due to illegal immigratation. Driving down the wages of low skilled workers (and not everyone is the hyper-genius as us on FR so don't frown on the jobs) is bad for the US

Do you know there was a thriving black middle class in inner city Los Angeles before the manufacturing jobs first started leaving. Not every kid is mentally, emotionally, realistically ready for college. That is especially true in the inner city, or the rural areas.

Right now, with no manufacturing jobs in these areas, you can work at Wal-Mart, or McDonalds for near minimum wage, or deal drugs.

You tell a kid with no father, living in a blighted neighborhood filled with graffiti, chained up houses, that there are no jobs that will allow him to support himself or a family, but he can stay home with mom and work near minimum wage, or he can make more selling drugs in an hour than he can make during two weeks making fries at Burger King, and you get what we have in the inner cities.

We have to have these manufacturing jobs. They are what keeps lower middle class families together. If you tell a young man that his labor is worthless, he treats the system the same way. The fat cat who shipped the manufacturing jobs to Bangladesh in order to pocket a $10,000,000 bonus may think he is safe in his gated community, but for how long?

123 posted on 08/20/2003 7:36:48 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Tokhtamish
How many of those girls understand that they can't keep doing this for long ?

All the ones I talked to figured they had a maximum life expectancy of 35 before they were forced to find something else to do. Most wanted to be out before 30. A few were intending to bail out as soon as they finished whatever educational certificate/degree they were working on. I onlt ever ran into one who just thought it was great and a lot of fun and wanted to do it forever.

Did any of those girls have a Plan B ?

Most were college students studying nursing or business of all things. A couple wanted to set up their own "club" using their savings. All of them were extremely thrifty and were busy doing things like setting up college accounts for their kids (if any) and investing like mad. The only thing they spent money on were their costumes -- which became a tax writeoff.

Of course, this was over a decade ago. I'm sure the ones nowadays aren't quite as intelligent with their money. Making $1000+ a night can be quite addictive if you're not careful with the money. Then it goes away, poof!

124 posted on 08/20/2003 11:02:03 AM PDT by superloser
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To: dogbyte12
Especially if he grows up in a neighborhood where it is the dealers who drive the flashy cars, party every night, have wads of cash and lots of pretty girls. Sure he'll probably be dead or in prison by 25 but, hey, what is he saving himself for ?

This is the aspect of deindustrialization that free traitors ignore. Because of free trade, for non college educated low or semi skilled Americans the sky most definitely IS falling, Texas_Dawg ! It has been falling since 1970 as they have steadily sunk from working class to under class. Now we see that what has happenned to them is starting to happen to white collar workers.
125 posted on 08/20/2003 11:16:13 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: Tokhtamish
Grab that Red Flag and get on with it already.
126 posted on 08/20/2003 2:06:49 PM PDT by Texaggie79 (Did I say that?)
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To: Tokhtamish; happygrl; jpsb; MonroeDNA
he [Williams] might have seen some connection between deindustrialization and the black community's greatest problem; the absolutely awful rate of black male incarceration and the consequent identification in white eyes of blacks with violent crime. Without stable jobs you cannot have a stable community in which law abiding people control the streets, not street hustlers, and in which families can control their children.

You are trying to tell me that free trade is to blame for the problems in the inner city, as opposed to say, oh, I don't know: socialism/welfare, lack of education, lack of role models, and no cultural incentive to be decent citizens? You people just couldn't stop at blaming 9/11 on free trade, could you?

127 posted on 08/20/2003 2:08:09 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const tag& thisTagWontChange)
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To: luckydevi
There are simple facts here:

1) Offshore workers are much cheaper than their American counterparts, even after taking into account communication costs, inefficiencies of their work, etc. Even computer coding. It's true that early on, there were some monumental problems with Indian code. But today, many companies that outsource have had outsourcing a priority since day 1. Companies founded in Mountain View contract out some coding immediately. Whenever you try to offshore some development after you've had it going for a while somewhere else, there are going to be problems. They don't know your rules for documenting, variable naming, libraries, etc.

2) EPA and tort lawyers move some jobs offshore, but it's not that many. And none in call centers or computer programming, which are what most people complain about.

3) Companies have a duty to their shareholders to maximize profits, not maximize American jobs. It's sort of ironic that the biggest shareholders in most companies are pension funds of workers. For their workers to be able to retire, they need high returns from their stock investments. In order to secure this, they reward companies who cut costs, and one way for companies to cut their costs is by moving employees overseas.

4) Many computer companies need to move some workers overseas. They simply cannot compete with companies that do so. Add to this that many computer companies are truly global. Take SAP. It's German. It may move workers from the US to India. Can we complain? Suppose Oracle, a US company, produces software targeted for the South African market in the US, and it moves this development to India? Can we complain? What if SAP moves that development? The problem with tariffs for software is that it's hard to figure out exactly where the software was produced. If SAP wants to sell software in the US, how can we know if it was coded in Germany or Ireland or India? Or Canada? And many enterprise software companies generate 1/3 to 1/2 of their revenues in foreign countries. Wouldn't there be retalitory tariffs? Wouldn't this force them to form subsidiaries and move development offshore so that they would have no US code in their foreign software?

5) What would happen if we ordered state pension funds to have a social obligation and not fund companies that were exporting jobs, but instead only buy stock in less profitable companies?

128 posted on 08/20/2003 2:28:44 PM PDT by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Take a deep breath and concentrate.

When the low-semi skilled jobs in a blue collar community go away the moral fiber of the community unravels. It happenned 30 years ago in the industrial cities of the Northeast. It is happenning now in rural Vermont. It happenned twenty years ago in the British industrial Midlands. It is happenning now in the desolate factory towns of Saxony and Prussia. When the jobs go you get gangbangers and skinheads because you now have lots of idle, angry, vicious young men with no future in a nation that has no use for them and society can no longer control them. They drift into drugs and crime.

"Role models" are law abiding citizens who play by the rules and are rewarded. That doesn't happen in deindustrialization. And what "cultural incentives" are there to play by the rules if it is not rewarded ? When the jobs go it is negative, not positive behavior that is admired and rewarded.
129 posted on 08/20/2003 2:32:55 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Free trade = no Jobs = crime
130 posted on 08/20/2003 2:33:00 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Texaggie79
Hey, Texaggie79 ! Nice to hear from you.

How's your work on the Chinese military going these days ?
131 posted on 08/20/2003 2:34:08 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: Texas_Dawg; Tokhtamish
Yup, white communities are not that far behind black communities on this (tree trade) highway to hell. I feel very sorry for Americas young folks. The free trade crowd is selling thier country and thier future for couple of quick bucks.

Yall just wait, the drugs and crime will be comming your way.

132 posted on 08/20/2003 2:44:27 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: superloser
I once saw a special on HBO about strippers. It focused on one past her sell-by date vainly looking for work. There was a great shot of her waiting to audition at a club contemplating with utter despair the perfectly bodied young girl on the runway. That's her competition and she hasn't a chance.

I mused at the time that it might be a good idea to create a cross training institute for over the hill strippers where they would teach nerdy programmers social and sexual skills and the nerdy programmers would in turn teach them job skills.
133 posted on 08/20/2003 2:45:43 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: Tokhtamish
When the jobs go you get gangbangers and skinheads because you now have lots of idle, angry, vicious young men with no future in a nation that has no use for them and society can no longer control them.

This is absolute nonsense. The history of or country is basically one where poverty was the norm. People were poor but decent. Get a clue.

134 posted on 08/20/2003 2:47:09 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const tag& thisTagWontChange)
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To: jpsb
Free trade = no Jobs = crime

I'm jobless and I'm not out there slingin' bags of toot and weed. Why not? 'Cause my peoples wouldn't approve.

135 posted on 08/20/2003 2:49:25 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const tag& thisTagWontChange)
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To: Koblenz
Companies have a duty to their shareholders to maximize profits, not maximize American jobs.

Likewise, our citizens have no responsibility with respect to these companies. Should they happen to lose access to key resources, or find themselves taxed for 150% of their net worth, well it's just a darn shame.

However, wise citizens and informed business operators, understand that they share a common interest, and things usually work best when they work together.
136 posted on 08/20/2003 2:55:34 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
What if practically everyone in your neighborhood was jobless ? That is what deindustrialization means. Not one person let go but hundreds at a time. Far more than any social fabric can absorb.
137 posted on 08/20/2003 2:55:46 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: jpsb
Yall just wait, the drugs and crime will be comming your way.

Are you black? Are you saying that drugs and crime are in black communities because of free trade?

138 posted on 08/20/2003 2:58:43 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
This is absolute nonsense. The history of or country is basically one where poverty was the norm. People were poor but decent. Get a clue.

Yes, but now it's OK to hate rich people. It's OK to blame everyone else for your being unemployed. It's OK to commit crime in cyclical economic downturns.

139 posted on 08/20/2003 2:59:55 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Free trade = no Jobs = crime

There is something to this but, I doubt that it is as stark as this equation makes it look. Crime presents its own set of problems, which serves as a deterrent irrespective of whatever comparative opportunties are available.
140 posted on 08/20/2003 3:08:54 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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