To: Tokhtamish; happygrl; jpsb; MonroeDNA
he [Williams] might have seen some connection between deindustrialization and the black community's greatest problem; the absolutely awful rate of black male incarceration and the consequent identification in white eyes of blacks with violent crime. Without stable jobs you cannot have a stable community in which law abiding people control the streets, not street hustlers, and in which families can control their children.You are trying to tell me that free trade is to blame for the problems in the inner city, as opposed to say, oh, I don't know: socialism/welfare, lack of education, lack of role models, and no cultural incentive to be decent citizens? You people just couldn't stop at blaming 9/11 on free trade, could you?
To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Take a deep breath and concentrate.
When the low-semi skilled jobs in a blue collar community go away the moral fiber of the community unravels. It happenned 30 years ago in the industrial cities of the Northeast. It is happenning now in rural Vermont. It happenned twenty years ago in the British industrial Midlands. It is happenning now in the desolate factory towns of Saxony and Prussia. When the jobs go you get gangbangers and skinheads because you now have lots of idle, angry, vicious young men with no future in a nation that has no use for them and society can no longer control them. They drift into drugs and crime.
"Role models" are law abiding citizens who play by the rules and are rewarded. That doesn't happen in deindustrialization. And what "cultural incentives" are there to play by the rules if it is not rewarded ? When the jobs go it is negative, not positive behavior that is admired and rewarded.
To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Free trade = no Jobs = crime
130 posted on
08/20/2003 2:33:00 PM PDT by
jpsb
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