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How to Beat Bush (Moral: Wingnut ideologues –left or right – lose elections!)
The Seattle Times ^ | August 17, 2003 | Al From

Posted on 08/18/2003 1:01:20 PM PDT by quidnunc

As strong as President Bush seems today, he's not invincible. But there's only one way any Democratic candidate can defeat him in 2004. That's by asserting a clear sense of national purpose — by getting the big things right and by convincing Americans that he can provide our country better leadership than Bush can.

But there are any number of strategies that won't work for Democrats.

Democrats won't win a fund-raising contest with Bush. The president is likely to break all fund-raising records — and no Democrat will be able to come even close. The Democratic candidate needs to raise enough money to get his message across, but to try to match the president is to pursue a fool's errand.

Democrats won't win by polarizing the debate. Bush is a staunch conservative, not the moderate he claimed to be in the 2000 campaign. But Democrats who believe the way to counter his conservatism is by moving left to sharpen the contrast — to offer, in the words of failed presidential candidate Barry Goldwater, "a choice, not an echo" — are wrong.

A recent Gallup poll revealed that on social issues, 37 percent of Americans identify themselves as conservatives, 23 percent as liberals. On economic issues, it's 43 percent conservatives, 15 percent liberals. Running to the short side of the field is not a winning strategy.

Democrats won't win by pandering to narrow interest or constituency groups. Resisting the demands of such groups is hard. That's why Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe was right to try to put the kibosh on candidate forums sponsored by organized pressure groups before they cause more damage than they already have.

Democrats won't win if they tolerate nonreal candidates throughout the nominating process. Although Dennis Kucinich, Al Sharpton and Carol Moseley Braun have no chance of winning the nomination, every time they appear on stage with the legitimate candidates, they diminish the stature of the whole field. So far, the damage is negligible because most voters aren't paying attention. But, as the campaign heats up, the Democrats' chances of defeating Bush will be damaged significantly if these candidates stay in the race.

Finally, Democrats won't win without strengthening their appeal to what President Clinton called the "forgotten middle class." In the 2000 and 2002 elections, Democrats won only the votes of high-school dropouts and the educational elite (voters with postgraduate degrees). They lost the huge mass of voters of educational levels in between. Over the long haul, that's an unsustainable alliance, because high-school drop-outs and postgraduates have very different demographics and very different views on cultural issues.

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What's true for Democrats is also true for the GOP.

To win, the GOP must earn the trust of the independent middle and to do this they have to convince the voters that Republicans are not the gimlet-eyed zealots which Democrats portray them as.

1 posted on 08/18/2003 1:01:20 PM PDT by quidnunc
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Oh, I pray the Democrats continue to portray Republicand as gimlet-eyed zealots! They are not geting the message across STRONGLY enough. What's needed are candidates who can speak out with imagination and PASSION on what cold hearted starvers of grandmas and poisoners of water the Republican party is!
2 posted on 08/18/2003 1:17:27 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: quidnunc
What's true for Democrats is also true for the GOP. To win, the GOP must earn the trust of the independent middle and to do this they have to convince the voters that Republicans are not the gimlet-eyed zealots which Democrats portray them as.

In other words, all we need are independent candidates with independent principles and independent platforms who simply wear the disguises of their respective parties...all for the sake of appealing to that band of voters who determines every election: The independents. Yeah, right.

3 posted on 08/18/2003 1:21:27 PM PDT by Colofornian (Or doncha know the powerful get what they want?)
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That's why Ford won in 1976 and Reagan lost in 1980.
4 posted on 08/18/2003 1:23:10 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: quidnunc
But, but, but...I'm a wingnut ideologue.
5 posted on 08/18/2003 1:26:52 PM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: quidnunc
A recent Gallup poll revealed that on social issues, 37 percent of Americans identify themselves as conservatives, 23 percent as liberals. On economic issues, it's 43 percent conservatives, 15 percent liberals. Running to the short side of the field is not a winning strategy.

So, in other words, the GOP shouldn't have to run very far to the left to win elections. So why are so many of them in favor of such nonsense as the child-tax credit for nontaxpayers and a Medicare prescription drug benefit?

6 posted on 08/18/2003 1:29:45 PM PDT by dirtboy (Arnold's positions are like the alien in Predator - you can't see them but you know they're lethal)
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to convince the voters that Republicans are not the gimlet-eyed zealots which Democrats portray them as. wingnuts

"Wingnuts" and "zealots" are only dirty words in the media vocabulary...or in the minds of "respectable" folks who don't want their reputation soiled should they hang around with passionate folks who have decided that talking about something isn't enough.

Anti-zealots are the type of folks who think Jesus leaving his godhood behind in heaven for 33 years was a bit extremist. Anti-zealots are the type of folks who think dying on the cross for your cause was a bit over the top. Anti-zealots are also the type who think you can't begin to start any kind of grassroots movement if you stand on absolutes and principles, challenge the authorities of the day, or associate with fellow radicals (we all know Jesus picked folks like Simon the Zealot; zealots were known for picking off Roman soldiers).

According to their Book of Political Prescriptions, the anti-zealots would have you believe you could never start a grassroots populous movement had ya done what Jesus did. What % of the world now claims to be Christian, again?

7 posted on 08/18/2003 1:30:52 PM PDT by Colofornian (Or doncha know the powerful get what they want?)
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Hear hear...I'm tired of the BS about "moderate at all costs"...as though the great god Moderatism ever lead anyone to do anything great or glorious throughout history.
8 posted on 08/18/2003 1:37:55 PM PDT by =Intervention= (Moderate pubs and the liberals -- you know they love to get along....)
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To: The Old Hoosier
The Old Hoosier wrote: That's why Ford won in 1976 and Reagan lost in 1980.

Reagan didn't run as a movement conservative.

His campaign theme was "It's morning in America" and he named the moderate GHW Buish as his running mate.

At that, Reagan only won because John Anderson siphoned more votes away from Carter than from Reagan.

9 posted on 08/18/2003 1:38:55 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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"So, in other words, the GOP shouldn't have to run very far to the left to win elections. So why are so many of them in favor of such nonsense as the child-tax credit for nontaxpayers and a Medicare prescription drug benefit?"

To win, what things should the Republicans go left on and how far?

10 posted on 08/18/2003 1:43:33 PM PDT by MEGoody
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My son works works his behind off, 12 to 14 hours a day. He pays taxes. He got the child tax credit, which he and his wife desperately needed. Some day, after he learns enough of the business, he hopes to start his own roofing company the way my uncle did (with his roofing company) and become a millionaire like him. Then he'll pay MORE taxes, but my grandson will be old enough that my son won't be eligible for the child tax credit.

I WISH people would stop lumping ALL hardworking parents who are just starting out but PAY taxes into some kind of Welfare-type, givaway group.

11 posted on 08/18/2003 1:43:42 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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Democrats won't win by polarizing the debate.

Well, maybe the Dems won't win by polarizing the debate, but that's only because the Dems won't win by trying anything at all.

But now & then, there are folks who can come along & polarize others and "win." William Wilberforce was one example. As an evangelical Christian, he and his Clapham Sect polarized England by becoming a "one-issue" candidate who tirelessly focused on voiding slavery from the scene...and was finally successful, despite making many economic enemies.

12 posted on 08/18/2003 1:44:08 PM PDT by Colofornian (Or doncha know the powerful get what they want?)
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For Democrats to beat Bush next year, they will have to build on the traditions of their most successful presidents — espousing a clear national purpose and getting the big things right

Like:

national recognition of gay marriage

Raise income taxes

Expand medicare to include illegal aliens

Expand Social Security benefits to lower animals and illegal aliens

Total amnesty for illegals

total ban on civilian ownership of firearms

Recognize UN authority over Constitutional provisions

Cut defense budget in order to create more social welfare programs

Lower the age for sexual consent to 10

Redefine sex so that NAMBLA members will no longer have to hide

Remove the ceiling on social security "donations" so that SS taxes can be raised ad infinitum

Elevate a flaming commie nut-cake to the House minority leadership, like that looney-tune Nancy Pelosi.

13 posted on 08/18/2003 1:44:25 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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I WISH people would stop lumping ALL hardworking parents who are just starting out but PAY taxes into some kind of Welfare-type, givaway group.

Uh, since he got the child tax credit, it means he paid taxes, so what is your beef with what I said? But giving a child tax credit to someone who doesn't pay taxes is welfare.

14 posted on 08/18/2003 1:45:38 PM PDT by dirtboy (Arnold's positions are like the alien in Predator - you can't see them but you know they're lethal)
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To: Colofornian
I prefer to link myself with extremists like this guy:

“I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”—Thomas Jefferson

15 posted on 08/18/2003 1:47:21 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Colofornian
Anti-zealots are the type of folks who think Jesus leaving his godhood behind in heaven for 33 years was a bit extremist.

Jesus did not "leave his godhood behind in heaven" for 33 years. He was and is God and Man, all the time.

16 posted on 08/18/2003 1:49:28 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: 45Auto
Good list.
17 posted on 08/18/2003 1:50:36 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals
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To: quidnunc
So which big-spending Socialist should I vote for?
...Bush, Kerry, or Dean?
18 posted on 08/18/2003 1:52:21 PM PDT by CMClay
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To: quidnunc
This article was written for the sole purpose of pushing Lieberman.
19 posted on 08/18/2003 1:55:37 PM PDT by huck von finn
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Bush is a staunch conservative

The same Bush that let Teddy Kennedy write the education bill and the same Bush that has not vetoed one big-spending social program that the likes of Tom Daschle and Co. have signed off on.

Yeah, Bush is a staunch conservative ... puhhleeze.

20 posted on 08/18/2003 1:55:46 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take back the word "liberal" from the commies!!)
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