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Fox News Sources: Sabotage Cannot Be Ruled Out in Blackout
Fox News ^ | 08-18-03

Posted on 08/18/2003 12:46:55 PM PDT by Brian S

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:36:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Although government and energy-industry officials have continued to state that Thursday's massive power blackout was not an act of terrorism, they are unable to rule out the possibility that a computer hacker plunged 50 million people into darkness, a source told Fox News Monday.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; attack; blackout; cause; cyber; hacking; sabotage; terrorim
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1 posted on 08/18/2003 12:46:56 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S
Computer hacker was the first thing I thought of when it happened, although I really don't know the first thing about our power grids.
2 posted on 08/18/2003 12:49:57 PM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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3 posted on 08/18/2003 12:52:33 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Brian S
Let the American people take a sip from the same glass."

Oh, go drink some poison yourself you Muslim creep. I'd maybe be a bit more convinced if the power went down in November instead of August and you claimed responsibility. Sort of convenient that it just so happened to coincide with a helluva hot August day.

Prairie

4 posted on 08/18/2003 12:52:56 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Hillary utilized the blackout for broom riding and to practice scaring small animals.)
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To: Brian S
Yeah, right.

SOMEONE took out an operating 680 MEGAWATT steam plant and NOBODY saw them?

SOMEONE ELSE managed to run around and 'trip' a number of WIDESPREAD transmission lines to boot?

Why do I take that as JUST so much talk?

ANYBODY with a brain who has READ the technical details of the '65 NE BLACKOUT and the '77 NYC BLACKOUT will have a MUCH better and a BASED idea of how this is possible ...

Meanwhile, here's an early tally of what went on in Ohio and other places:

2 p.m. - FirstEnergy’s Eastlake Unit 5, a 680-megawatt coal generation plant in Eastlake, Ohio, trips off. On a hot summer afternoon, "that wasn’t a unique event in and of itself," said Mr. DiNicola. "We had some transmission lines out of service and the Eastlake system tripped out of service, but we didn’t have any outages related to those events."

3:06 p.m. - FirstEnergy’s Chamberlain-Harding power transmission line, a 345-kilovolt power line in northeastern Ohio, trips. The company hasn’t reported a cause, but the outage put extra strain on FirstEnergy’s Hanna-Juniper line, the next to go dark.

3:32 p.m. - Extra power coursing through FirstEnergy’s Hanna-Juniper 345-kilovolt line heats the wires, causing them to sag into a tree and trip.

3:41 p.m. - An overload on First Energy’s Star-South Canton 345-kilovolt line trips a breaker at the Star switching station, where FirstEnergy’s grid interconnects with a neighboring grid owned by the American Electric Power Co. AEP’s Star station also is in northeastern Ohio.

3:46 p.m. - AEP’s 345-kilovolt Tidd-Canton Control transmission line also trips where it interconnects with FirstEnergy’s grid, at AEP’s connection station in Canton.

4:06 p.m. - FirstEnergy’s Sammis-Star 345-kilovolt line, also in northeast Ohio, trips, then reconnects.

4:08 p.m. - Utilities in Canada and the eastern United States see wild power swings. "It was a hopscotch event, not a big cascading domino effect," said Sean O’Leary, chief executive of Genscape, a company that monitors electric transmissions.

4:09 p.m. - The already lowered voltage coursing to customers of Cleveland Public Power, inside the city of Cleveland, plummets to zero. "It was like taking a light switch and turning it off," said Jim Majer, commissioner of Cleveland Public Power. "It was like a heart attack. It went straight down from 300 megawatts to zero."

4:10 to 4:25 p.m. - Power plants and high-voltage electric transmission lines in Ohio, Michigan, New York, New Jersey, and Ontario shut down.


5 posted on 08/18/2003 12:54:37 PM PDT by _Jim (First INDICT the ham sandwhich ... the next step is to CONVICT it ...)
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To: Coop
Computer hacker

Already tried and has been documented in federal reports - and it had no effect.

The public confuses *all* facets of power generation and transmision in with the 'consumer' side of operations (like billing, cust service) to the point where they think EVERTHING is seamlessly tied together computerwise - and it isn't quite so ...

6 posted on 08/18/2003 12:57:57 PM PDT by _Jim (First INDICT the ham sandwhich ... the next step is to CONVICT it ...)
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To: _Jim
These stories will circulate while the industry dawdles over who is going to be the fall guy - most likely a company that's already near bankruptcy. Claims thereby evaporate.
7 posted on 08/18/2003 12:57:58 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: _Jim
Tell us why the CIA hasn't ruled out terrorism then.
8 posted on 08/18/2003 12:59:04 PM PDT by flamefront (To the victor go the oils. No oil or oil-money for islamofascist weapons of mass annihilation.)
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To: _Jim
Looks like a classic feedback cycle to me.
9 posted on 08/18/2003 12:59:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (Arnold's positions are like the alien in Predator - you can't see them but you know they're lethal)
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To: Shermy
These stories will circulate while the industry dawdles over who is going to be the fall guy

THE reports for '65, '77 and even info on several events in '96 were whipped out in pretty good time - and no one who 'shared' responsibilty was really let off where there was indicated some culpability/responsibility ...

10 posted on 08/18/2003 1:00:35 PM PDT by _Jim (First INDICT the ham sandwhich ... the next step is to CONVICT it ...)
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To: flamefront
What Went Wrong (Blackout. CIA considered terrorism as possible cause)
11 posted on 08/18/2003 1:01:11 PM PDT by flamefront (To the victor go the oils. No oil or oil-money for islamofascist weapons of mass annihilation.)
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To: Brian S
Remember how for HOURS, DAYS AND WEEKS, the FBI would repeatedly, robotically and categorically say the Arabic shooter at the El Al Airline counter at L.A.X. on 4 July 2002 was just 'another isolated incident'? In our day and age, such stupid comments as 'we have no reason to believe that terrorism may have been involved'?

Then, it turns out quietly, months later, they admit there were a terrorist connection to the El Al L.A.X. gun-down and a plot afteralll. Face it, it's in the Homeland Defense's Crisis Management PR Procedural Manual to IMMEDIATELY DENY terrorism in any of these high profile cases. They don't want to mass panic the public but the public knew and knows better.

I smell a rat.

10 to 1 in about six months they discover the trail to middle Eastern terrorism.Then they can break it to the sheeple nice and slow, page seven, below the fold.

12 posted on 08/18/2003 1:01:27 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Brian S
Feh. They can't rule out somebody dropping a moose on a transformer, either.
13 posted on 08/18/2003 1:02:14 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Coop
Me too! And they were WAY too quick saying it couldn't have been terrorism. It's pretty easy to say, it wasn't a BOMB, but I don't think it's possible to rule out a hack attack in just a few hours (less than two IIRC).
14 posted on 08/18/2003 1:02:33 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: Brian S
I have the feeling that during the black-out some huge underhanded, below the radar, "CYA" money grubbing went on.
15 posted on 08/18/2003 1:03:06 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Brian S
Well, my take on this is that if Fox doesn't know the difference between _kilowatts_ and _kilovolts_, I can see no reason to believe their story.

This story is wrong on so many counts that it should be disregarded.
16 posted on 08/18/2003 1:03:16 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: flamefront
Tell us why the CIA hasn't ruled out terrorism then.

You tell me.

I don't deal in fantasy, just fact.

I've gone over and studied the events that occurred in '65, '77 (TWO of them in NYC in '77) and the several biggies in the US since then - THERE IS NOTHING UNUSUAL or UNTOWARD that *doesn't* indicate a series of events and potential HUMAN ERROR - JUST like in the half dozen BIG events in the past forty some years ...

17 posted on 08/18/2003 1:04:01 PM PDT by _Jim (First INDICT the ham sandwhich ... the next step is to CONVICT it ...)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
But what did the terrorists accomplish (if they're behind this), really? Some inconvenience - so what?
The looting and pillaging they boast about is just another pure Islamofascist lie. The truth is criminal activity was DOWN in NYC during the blackout.
18 posted on 08/18/2003 1:04:11 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: flamefront
Tell us why the CIA hasn't ruled out terrorism then.

That's silly. The fact that they can't rule it out doesn't mean that there is any evidence that terrorists did it. A gigantic branch fell off of a tree in my yard 6 months ago. I can't rule out that terrorists did it.

Portions of my lawn are dead, I can't rule out that terrorists did it. I had a flat tire last weekend while on the way to Pappas Brothers steakhouse in Dallas (where you all need to go). I can't rule out that terrorists didn't put the bolt in the tire.

The fact that they can't rule it out doesn't mean much. It just means that they don't know precisely what happened.

19 posted on 08/18/2003 1:04:22 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Huck
Now that there is one helluva grain.
20 posted on 08/18/2003 1:04:35 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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