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Overblown ogre of 'outsourcing'
The Washington Times ^
| 18 Aug 03
| By Bruce Bartlett
Posted on 08/18/2003 6:31:33 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:06:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Everybody seems to be worried about manufacturing these days. All the Democratic presidential candidates condemn the practice of "outsourcing"
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brucebartlett; economy; elections; freetrade; leftwingactivists; outsourcing
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Another myth exposed. Gephardt should read it and weep. We produce a higher percentage of our GDP through physical manufacturing than we did when we had mobilized to fight the Nazi's in WWII!
To: harpseal
ping
To: .cnI redruM
There is a lot more to outsourcing than cutsey little statistics. This is a serious problem, and the party that puts out phoney spin is going to lose big time.
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posted on
08/18/2003 6:38:01 AM PDT
by
tkathy
To: .cnI redruM
> Remember, what really matters for employers is not absolute wages, but unit
> labor costs how much the labor costs to manufacture a given product.
Reminds me of the old Fruehauf Corporation ( an over-the-road trailer manufacturer). They decided to close down the Fort Wayne manufacturing plant and open one in Scott County Tennessee. The wages were $11 to $14 in Ft. Wayne and were $6 to $8 in Tennessee (this is in mid-1970's dollars). They figured that they would save $1,000 per trailer.
Unfortunately, they were never able to match the hours needed to produce the trailer -- even with brand new equipment and a year and a half of ramping up the speed (to get the workers ready). The Tennessee plant took more of those lower cost hours to make each and every trailer. The cost savings was not there. Makes me wonder about sending work to Mexico or India.
Fruehauf is now out of business and the last I heard, the Tennessee plant was closed down. So much for low wage rates.
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posted on
08/18/2003 6:40:42 AM PDT
by
jim_trent
To: .cnI redruM
"The truth is that manufacturing is doing just fine in every way except employment."
Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?
The free trader pundits clearly are feeling the heat and have their talking points. What they fail to comprehend is that none of their statistics mean a damn thing to a man whose job has been outsourced.
If the Republicans don't get a handle on this, come November 2004 they'll be trying to get the license plate number of the truck that hit them.
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posted on
08/18/2003 6:42:08 AM PDT
by
kms61
To: .cnI redruM; Willie Green
"The truth is that manufacturing is doing just fine in every way except employment. However, few economists would judge the health or sickness of any industry solely based on employment. By that standard, agriculture has been the sickest industry of all for decades. Rather, such things as output, productivity, profitability and wages better determine industrial health. On this score, manufacturing is actually doing quite well in the United States." Exploding Heads Alert!
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posted on
08/18/2003 6:42:41 AM PDT
by
Uncle Miltie
("Leave Pat, Leave!")
To: jim_trent
exactly. That's why the US produces a greater proportion of it's GDP in factories today than it did in WWII. People try outsourcing and come back when here when they want to produce something that has enough quality to market somewhere other than Walmart.
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posted on
08/18/2003 6:46:53 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
("My Glass is Gettin' Shorter, On Some WHiskey and Some Water" - AC/DC)
To: tkathy
What's so phoney about those statistics? Refute them with an objective rather than a subjective sritique that suggests the decline and fall of US manufacturing. If the US is producing a greater proportion of it's economic wealth via manufacturing than it did in either WWII or The Gilded Age, how is the manufacturing sector actually in decline?
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posted on
08/18/2003 6:49:55 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
("My Glass is Gettin' Shorter, On Some WHiskey and Some Water" - AC/DC)
To: .cnI redruM
Spin it any way you want it. Blackbird.
To: .cnI redruM
No, it isn't in decline. BUt the gloom n doomers and the anti-Bush, anti-Americans here would like you to think so and they'd like their socialist agendas put up including protectionism and tariffs and high taxes.
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posted on
08/18/2003 6:56:13 AM PDT
by
Cronos
(Reagan waz best, but Dubya's close!)
To: BlackbirdSST
Percentage of GDP produced in factories 2003 - 39.6%.
Highest percentage of GDP produced in factories during the 40's - 35%.
Highest percentage of US GDP produced in factories ever (2000) - 40%.
A 0.4% decline in the proportion of GDP produced in factories over a three year period is not a deep and fundamental change in our national economic paradigm.
Spin it any way you choose. redruM.
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posted on
08/18/2003 6:59:49 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
("My Glass is Gettin' Shorter, On Some WHiskey and Some Water" - AC/DC)
To: .cnI redruM
Remember, what really matters for employers is not absolute wages, but unit labor costs how much the labor costs to manufacture a given product. If a U.S. worker is 5 times as productive as a Mexican worker making one-fifth as much, they are exactly equal from the point of view of a producer.
Great, so you only have to work 5 times harder than everyone else to have a chance. Sounds fair to me </sarcasm>
To: .cnI redruM; Lazamataz; ewing; hchutch; Poohbah; rdb3
Notice that they've completely ignored the effect of outsourcing on the high tech sector..."It's OK, you can ignore it now..."
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posted on
08/18/2003 7:03:07 AM PDT
by
mhking
To: tkathy
Yes, exactly. People are feed up with it. I know of several that are for the first time in ages considering voting for dems because of how they feel Bush has screwed up the economy. To quote one, "If a conservative is a liberal who has just been mogged, a liberal is a conservative who was just laid off because his job is going to India."
To: .cnI redruM
However, few economists would judge the health or sickness of any industry solely based on employment. Its the 1000 pound gorilla though.
Fortunately those out of work can vote, and those companies and corporations can't.
To: .cnI redruM
The truth is that manufacturing is doing just fine in every way except employment.I'm sure that will make the millions of unemployed sleep better at night under the overpass in their cardboard boxes!
To: ChromeDome
Ever heard of leveraging technology? Work two times smarter and your easily five times more productive.
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posted on
08/18/2003 7:06:09 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
("My Glass is Gettin' Shorter, On Some Whiskey and Some Water" - AC/DC)
To: tkathy
"conservatives" in denial BUMP
To: mhking
"It's OK, you can ignore it now..."Actually it would have been much funnier if they had written:
Outsourcing Not Found. (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)gnore?
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posted on
08/18/2003 7:07:37 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
To: tkathy
There is a lot more to outsourcing than cutsey little statistics. This is a serious problem, and the party that puts out phoney spin is going to lose big time.It seems to be our guys.... I've got a bad feeling about this....
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posted on
08/18/2003 7:08:23 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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