Church loses 'Episcopal' from its signs

The Tennessean ^ | BRIAN LEWIS

[nickcarraway]

For St. Andrew's Church on Woodmont Boulevard, the Episcopal Church may as well be dead.

''We have draped our signs in black and covered the word Episcopal as a symbolic way of disassociating ourselves from the actions of the General Convention of the Episcopal Church,'' said the Rev. James Guill, the church's rector.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Is the pastor worried that they could take the property away from him?
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Not really. Bishop Herlong seems to be on our side

It is sad that it must be even considered though. Local churches should own their building to prevent this kind of blackmail.

[ccmay]

Please include me on the Traditional Anglican list.

Me too please.

-ccm

[Amadeo]

Bishop Herlong is DEFINITELY on our side. Rt. Reverend Herlong was prominent at General Convention both before and after the heresy was a done deal. He is going to fight this thing all the way and will need all of us in the battle.

He has prepared a letter to be read to all the churches in the Diocese this sunday. I suggest that if you can, go to church, and hear what your own rector says about Bishop Herlong's message. It is one of sola scriptura, hope, love and determination. He is a good and godly man and a worthy leader.

Our rector at Advent, Tom Hotchkiss is with us shoulder-to-shoulder too. The gaps in the line will be filled with the faithful. God Bless Saint Andrews Church, Father Guill and his parishoners.

Church of the Advent parishioner,

Amadeo

[CARepubGal]

Some of the Good Guys, FYI

[LiteKeeper]

SPOTREP

[davisfh]

"...I am proud to call him a dear friend, as well as my priest and spiritual leader."

Good for you. I sometimes fear for the nation and am happy to know that there are people out there who are available to lead the nation into the future. It's sad to know, though, that many refuse to be led and choose to be dragged kicking and screaming as we go.

I'm sure that there are many on this forum who will disagree with me. That's OK though. Our founders assured us that we should have freedom of speech and, by implication, freedom of thought. It is remarkable to me that we should have this forum which allows us to exercise these rights.

[trad_anglican]

Episcopal/Anglican ping

[N. Theknow]

thanks for the "ping" T_A!

Very moving to see a bishop and church take a stand that Jesus did not die in vain and that the Holy Eucharist actually means something.

General Convention of the ECUSA = Sin doesn't matter.

St. Andrew's Church = Hell, you say.

My Tennessee roots are very proud this AM.

[snerkel]

Good move! Although the situation is sad, it is wonderful to see a church stand firm. Unfortunately, I see this same thing occuring in the denomination I attend. It is only a matter of time.

[Roughneck]

Will the the church itself be taken back by the diocese?


Dont know. This is something the followers of God and the fallen half of the church will have to work out.

I suspect the fallen portion of the church will attempt to retain all holdings and buildings of the church, because for them, IMO, it is only about the MONEY a damned congregation will bring.

[Eala]

I suspect the fallen portion of the church will attempt to retain all holdings and buildings of the church, because for them, IMO, it is only about the MONEY a damned congregation will bring.

My understanding is that after several parishes left ECUSA in the late 70s, taking their properties with them, that ECUSA demanded that ownership of the properties be turned over to the bishops.

[TruthNtegrity]

E-mail sent from this fifth-generation Episcopalian, and that I've managed to trace so far, 5 generations of Chuch of England.

[Roughneck]

My understanding is that after several parishes left ECUSA in the late 70s, taking their properties with them, that ECUSA demanded that ownership of the properties be turned over to the bishops.


That sounds about right. Satan is very greedy indeed!

[ahadams2]

You wrote "My understanding is that after several parishes left ECUSA in the late 70s, taking their properties with them, that ECUSA demanded that ownership of the properties be turned over to the bishops."

That is essentially correct though the move in that direction had started somewhat earlier, and it wasn't nearly that obvious to casual observers at first. A point that I haven't seen anybody make, so I'll make it here: If you belong to an orthodox parish, with orthodox clergy, in an orthodox diocese (in other words if you're in a situation similar to that described in this thread), please, PLEASE be certain not only to let your parishes clergy and vestry (note to other denominations 'vestry' = church council, church board, etc.) but be certain that they *and* you and everyone else let your bishop know of your support for his position. The spiritual warfare over the next few months will be incredible, especially at the episcopal level - pray, pray, pray, for your clergy and your bishop, and keep encouraging them, as they do their best to discern just exactly how God wants them to lead their flock into whatever comes next.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Good for you. I'm sure the pastor and the congregation will appreciate your support.

[Zack Nguyen]

The conservatives MUST split. There is no other option here. If not they are subjecting themselves and their sheep to the danger of the wolves.

The next step for the leftists within the denomination will be to consolidate their victory by going after conservative churches like this one to either shut up or be kicked out.

[Roughneck]

"***The next step for the leftists within the denomination will be to consolidate their victory by going after conservative churches like this one to either shut up or be kicked out.***"

The Leftists (I prefer the term "The Damned")may very well go after the Conservatives (ie. "The Faithful") within the church. Satan has been let loose now for his reign of terror. I see it in every democrat-socialists eye, don't you?

It may be time to split from FORMAL RELIGIONS (the ones that answer to euro-trash anyway)- buildings and all, wipe the satanic slime from our clothes and persons and begin meetings in private homes.

At the very least, all christians should remove their money from their churches if even a whisper of the homo agenda is accepted and join elsewhere. The African-Episcopate is still scripturally sound as far as I can tell, but dont they still answer to the Bishop of Canterberry (sp?) The Baptists, while seemingly fanatical, are really the only ones I see sticking to the written word of God (and you see how "popular" they are! <sarcasm)

At any rate, their funding should be cut-off before any other souls are lost.

[johnb838]

Last night at choir practice I remarked to a guy that the nave "looked good for an apostate church". This dude is a little bit unbalanced anyway and he looked at me as if he was about to come unglued and said "We'll have to talk about that later". There are a lot of liberals where I go. It is definitely time for people to stand up and be counted as to where they stand on this. We will be discussing it on Sunday. In honor of the sermon the choirmaster selected "The Church's One Foundation" as the processional.

[Former]

Is there a place for traditional Anglicans?? I am a traditional Anglican. THanks.

[trad_anglican]

Is there a place for traditional Anglicans??

Yes. In the US there is Forward in Faith North America and there is the Anglican Church in America. There are other continuing Anglican provinces in the US as well.