Major power surge in NY? (Blackout is in NYC, Detroit, Ottawa and Toronto, per Fox News)

How are the people eating and taking care of personal functions?

Poorly. The electronic automatic toilet flushers don't work...

Can anyone tell me about how many city blocks to the mile?

We're trying to figure out how far some of the folks were having to walk.

Was just told that the B&G Director where I work was left a message by NiMo to reduce load so that rolling blackouts do not occur. That may be what is going on...

Car trouble A police officer carries a child as transit officials and police help passengers walk along subway tracks at the Shea Stadium/Willets Point subway station in the Queens borough of New York.

Buses look better People attempt to board the back of a crowded Manhattan bus during in New York on Thursday. The subway lines were closed down due to the outage.

Doggone it People line up at a hot dog cart on at Yonge Street in Toronto, Ontario, on Thursday. ( Good for the small business man!

Making a party of it Members of the Ortiz Family have a barbecue in front of their building on East 11th Street since the blackout disabled their electric stove.

For the record books The Upper West side of Manhattan is seen from a Weehawken, N.J., park Thursday after the largest power blackout in U.S. history rolled across a vast swath of the northern United States as well as southern Canada.

Maybe they have to shut down to power up. Did NiMo say if that was going to be necessary?

Can anyone tell me about how many city blocks to the mile?

In NYC? If memory serves, it's 8 to the mile.

The ferries were running? What time did the last one get out?

This is way to sad Mo!

But why the worry about rolling blackouts? Sounds like supply is still a problem. Wonder for how long.

Wow .. what a long day for you. Glad to hear you could make it home

Bless you and rest today!

I got a ferry to South Amboy that left pier 11 at around 9:30 p.m. I think that was the last ferry to South Amboy. They were informing everyone that they would be running one or two more ferries up to the Atlantic Highlands til' around midnight.

Unknown. We are on standby power for now..

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This is way to sad Mo!

True .. but it's also amazing how all the folks in New York handled themselves during such a stressfull hot night.

It could have been a whole lot worse .. but NYer's made the best of it

I know two tourists stuck in NYC right now--unless they got out by ferry. Suppose I'll find out.

What do Southern Princesses do in NYC for bathroom breaks when the lights go out? At least I know they have food and water.

Thanks,we were guessing five to the mile but I rarely get near any big towns.

The way most of the NYers have handled themselves through this is heartening.:o)

A ferry boat pulls into its dock at Weehawkin, N.J., against the New York City skyline Friday, Aug. 15, 2003. With an electrical power blackout closing most public transportation, ferrys still carried passengers to and from the city. (AP Photo/George Widman)

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By LARRY MARGASAK, Associated Press Writer

A massive power blackout retreated stubbornly Friday as power officials struggled to understand why the historic outage spread in minutes through the northeastern United States and southern Canada. Lights flicked on and air conditioners restarted for some, but new problems arose as the power system struggled back to life.

There were growing indications the original problem began in Ohio, rather than New York or Canada, as some had thought.

In Connecticut, Gov. John G. Rowland issued an emergency plea for residents to save power Friday morning after a state transmission line fizzled. "There presently is insufficient capacity to remain a reliable power supply," John Wiltse, a spokesman for the governor, said after a transmission line that feeds southwestern Connecticut went down around 5:45 a.m.

Cleveland weathered its worst water crisis in history as the blackout shut all four major pumping stations. The pumps which serve more than 1 million residents in the city and 20 suburbs began operating Friday morning, but the National Guard tanked in 7,600 gallons of drinking water to help until taps flowed again.

In New York City, power was restored Friday morning to parts of all five boroughs and some suburbs, but millions faced a morning rush hour without subway service or many traffic lights and no timetable for full restoration of power.

"Today will also present challenges," New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg told reporters. He asked essential city workers to come in but told nonessential counterparts to stay home and urged citizens to use judgment about working Friday.

"There are worse things than taking a summer Friday off from work," he said.

Bloomberg said a trying, hot night had cost the life of a 40-year-old who suffered a heart attack during one of New York City's 60 serious fires, most caused by candles used to stave off darkness. There were 800 elevator rescues; 80,000 calls to 911 and a record 5,000 emergency medical service calls. Emergency personnel "worked incredibly hard to get us through the night safely," Bloomberg said.

In Michigan, some customers may have to endure a weekend without electricity. Everywhere officials urged residents, businesses and travelers to cope with the inconvenience.

"This is truly one of the instances where we're all in this together," Gov. Jennifer Granholm of Michigan said during a statewide address Thursday night. "So be calm, be supportive of your neighbor." State workers in Michigan's capitol, Lansing, were told to report to work Friday but in harder-hit Detroit to the east, they were ordered to stay home.

While terrorism was swiftly ruled out by President Bush (news - web sites) and other officials, there was scant indication of what had caused the outage, which began on the cusp of Thursday's afternoon rush hour in Eastern cities.

There are indications it probably "started somewhere in the Midwest, perhaps Ohio," Michehl Gent, president of the North American Electric Reliability Council, said Friday on ABC-TV's "Good Morning America." Gent, whose nonprofit council was formed after the 1965 Northeast blackout to promote the reliability of the bulk electric systems, did not say what those indications were but expressed confidence that terrorism was not involved.

New York Independent System Operator president William Museler said huge power fluctuations originating from a Midwest power plant started the downfall of the grid. He said the power swings became so large that the Ontario, Canada, system could not sustain them, and the problem migrated to New York.

The New York Independent System Operator, which runs the state's wholesale electricity market and monitors power usage, said it had detected a sudden loss of power generation at 4:11 p.m.

More generally, industry and government experts blamed a system composed of interconnected grids that has not been upgraded to meet power demands.

The disruptions were as diverse as they were widespread.

A small explosion at the Marathon Oil refinery 10 miles south of Detroit was blamed on the outage which cut power to a pump, allowing a buildup of gasses that ultimately exploded in a smokestack. No one was hurt but police fearing additional explosions or possible release of toxic gas evacuated hundreds of residents from a one-mile radius around the refinery.

In New York City, thousands of stranded commuters were forced to sleep in bus and train terminals and even in the streets. Hundreds of out-of-towners at the Marriott Marquis slept on sidewalks because the hotel did not have a generator to power its electronic room keys.

In Sudbury, Ontario, 210 miles north of Toronto, more than 100 miners at a nickel mine were stranded in underground lunchrooms because the outage halted elevators to bring them to the surface, but authorities said they were not in immediate danger because they had water and backup power was running the ventilation system.

In Cleveland, the loss of power wasn't the only problem. About 1.5 million residents faced a crisis because there was no electricity to pump water from Lake Erie. At least three Eastern suburbs were out of water and officials said Western suburbs could go dry.

With sewage treatment plants blacked out, untreated waste releases forced the closing of beaches in New York City and Cleveland.

About 540,000 customers in Ohio were without power, mostly in the Cleveland area.

In New Jersey, where more than 1 million homes and businesses lost power at the peak of the outage, all but 50,000 had been restored by 5:30 a.m. Friday and full service was expected a few hours later. Northern New Jersey commuter railroads and buses announced limited to full service Friday.

In Connecticut, where nearly 310,000 customers served by two power companies lost power, all but about 53,000 had service restored by early Friday.

But in New York, where early estimates had 80 percent of the state without power, the percentage only dropped to some 60 percent near midnight.

Despite the outages in Manhattan, New York's financial markets had no intention of shutting down.

The New York Stock Exchange (news - web sites) and Nasdaq resumed stock trading on schedule Friday morning, but the American exchange delayed trading because problems at a Consolidated Edison substation prevented air conditioning from reaching the trading floor.

However, businesses from Manhattan through the Midwest were anxious about technical glitches and more power outages a day after the biggest blackout in U.S. history.

In San Diego, the president said, "slowly but surely we're coping with this massive, national problem," and added that he would order a review of "why the cascade was so significant."

Bush said he suspected that the nation's electrical grid would need to be modernized.

New York Gov. George Pataki praised his constituents for pulling together to help each other. While New Yorkers poured out of immobile subway cars, emerged from stuck elevators, began long walks home or rested in local establishments, one unidentified man saw beauty.

"You can actually see the stars in New York City," he said.

Anne Block, a law student in Lansing, Mich., said she used what little light was coming through a window to finish an exam at Thomas M. Cooley Law School.

"We were taking an exam and boom, the lights went out. But I was determined to finish. I kept writing. I wanted an 'A.' There was no way I was going to stop writing my exam," she said.

Electric industry and government officials said the nation's power grid has needed major upgrades for years, but industry experts said there were three major obstacles in the way: the expense, environmental opposition and people who didn't want power facilities near their back yards.

Both federal and state agencies, as well as congressional committees, are expected to investigate the blackout and try to determine why measures put in place to isolate grids and keep power disruptions from spreading failed to do so.

Law enforcement agencies were ready for any security problem.

In New York, police helicopters, boats and heavily armed teams of special counterterror officers moved into place at city landmarks and other sensitive locations, police Commissioner Ray Kelly said. Officials swiftly realized the power outage was not an act of terror, and they used so-called Atlas teams of officers to make sure no one took advantage of the blackout to commit terrorism, he said.

That's too bad. I hope they can get out. My heart went out to the tourists. Couldn't help but feel bad seeing families out on the streets. After 911 my biggest fear has been being trapped in the city again in another event.