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Major power surge in NY? (Blackout is in NYC, Detroit, Ottawa and Toronto, per Fox News)
8-14-03
| Joe Hadenuf
Posted on 08/14/2003 1:14:13 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
Hannity station went dead for about 20 seconds. Said he had never seen anything like it.
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To: ninenot
NEW YORK (AP) Mayor Michael Bloomberg says one person dead, one firefighter injured in incidents related to blackout.
3,341
posted on
08/15/2003 6:44:08 AM PDT
by
JustPiper
(We do not share a grid- We don't share a grid!)
To: DannyTN
Nothing like lawyers to suck the energy out of the country. It's the L-Bomb. Domestic terrorists, No doubt ..
3,342
posted on
08/15/2003 6:45:39 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
To: Mo1
Sue an almost broke city?
3,343
posted on
08/15/2003 6:46:46 AM PDT
by
JustPiper
(We do not share a grid- We don't share a grid!)
To: JustPiper
I'm sure the lawyer will .. but it sounded like they will to go after the Fed Gov ... deeper pockets
3,344
posted on
08/15/2003 6:48:13 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
To: oceanview
Fox News - DOE order emergency activation of NY to CT power cable!! The enviro-kooks have been fighting this for years, let's roll...Zapped fish pop to surface, fishermen on Long Island Sound rejoice.
To: Mo1
MSNBC
Stranded travelers are seen sleeping on the sidewalk outside the Port Authority Bus Terminal early on Friday morning.
Stranded New Yorkers awake
After sleeping on the streets, commuters try to head home
NEW YORK, Aug. 15 In New Yorks Times Square on Friday, hundreds of tired, haggard-looking commuters left stranded by the blackout awoke from their makeshift beds, lumbering into the dim light of the rising sun. Elsewhere, from Connecticut to Canada, people did their best to cope.
LIKE THE SCENE of a post-apocalyptic movie, some people wandered into the streets with blank stares on their faces, searching for any indication as to when full power would be restored.
More than 12 hours after the biggest North American power outage in history left huge swaths of the Northeast in sweltering darkness, much of New York and its suburbs were still without electricity. The subways were not running and many residents had no water because their electric pumps were not working.
Power grid officials called the multi-city blackout the biggest outage in North American history, dwarfing previous blackouts in 1977 and 1965.
Scattered sections of the citys electricity grid were slowly coming back on line, but officials could not estimate when power would be fully restored.
In midtown Manhattan, normally abuzz with early morning activity, streets remained eerily quiet. Many who were stranded without lodging overnight were still asleep on beds of newspaper, cardboard, clothing or briefcases, while others shuffled over to a handful of delis that were opening.
Osvaldo Trigl, who lives in Tarrytown north of the city, had been walking around since early Thursday evening. Whats most frustrating is that you cant reach your family, he said Friday as he ambled around in the vicinity of Grand Central Terminal.
PEWS FILLED WITH STRANDED PEOPLE
At St. Bartholomews Episcopal Church on Park Avenue, most pews were filled with stranded people a few snoring lying head to toe in the candlelight.
Thousands more had no luck finding shelter indoors.
At the Marriott Marquis on Times Square, hundreds of people were sprawled on its driveway outside locked doors, and on sidewalks, curbs and patches of grass everywhere, exhausted men, women and children rested their heads wherever they could.
Were from California, so were not strangers to power outages, but nothing like this, said Laurie Couto, 41, who was visiting from San Jose, Calif. This is phenomenal.
A block from Grand Central, commuters lay on sidewalks with their heads on briefcases. Everybody is homeless tonight, one man said. Now you get a taste of what homelessness is like.
Temperatures, which slipped to the low 80s Farenheit at night were expected to soar back up to the 90s by mid-morning, further straining the recuperating power system.
Fearing that terrorists had struck the city for the second time in two years, New Yorkers were relieved when officials quickly ruled out a terrorist attack. The cause of the outage remained under investigation.
INCIDENTS OF LOOTING
Although the power went out in New York City at 4:11 p.m., right before the evening rush hour, the city adapted and overcame most of its problems.
About 20 people were arrested at a looting incident at a Brooklyn sneaker store shortly before midnight, police Commissioner Ray Kelly said. And there were a handful of arrests following attempted burglaries at other stores.
But the generally mellow city stood in contrast with the rampant lawlessness that followed the 1977 blackout, when property damage estimates were as high as $150 million. Mayor Abe Beame described it as a night of terror, and the power was out for 25 hours.
Power was lost from the top of the 102-story Empire State Building to the 214 miles of subway tunnels, and everywhere in between. The outage affected the power grid as far east as Connecticut and as far west as Ohio, Bloomberg said.
Amazingly, although people were stranded in elevators and stuck inside subway trains, there were no immediate reports of injuries. There were tales of extraordinary escapes, including straphangers who climbed to safety from a train stuck on the Manhattan Bridge.
The overnight situation in New York was duplicated in other cities across the Northeast where the blackout extended.
In Cleveland, University Hospital used its backup generators and had power, labor and delivery nurse Olga Kropko said, reported NBC affiliate WCMH. But everyone is very hot because the air conditioning is off, she said. Our laboring moms are suffering.
In Connecticut, The Associated Press reported that more than 57,000 people were in the dark and Metro North Trains werent running.
There was no power in Stamford, and people were lining up at pay phones because of difficulties using cell phones, the AP reported. Stranded commuters tried to hail cabs and buses and rent cars to get home.
Obviously, its causing a lot of inconvenience, said Sgt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police. Most of what were seeing are traffic issues with lights not functioning. We have no reported major incidents as a result of the outages.
CHILLING IN CANADA
Canadians crowded outdoor patios late Thursday, awaited patiently for subways to resume and even chipped in to help direct traffic as Toronto, the countrys most populous city, ground to a halt.
This is the time to be chipper, people! yelled Dan Parkinson before rallying stranded commuters downtown in a rendition of Youre the One That I Want from the rock musical Grease.
While New Yorkers, with the Sept. 11 second anniversary looming, harbored fears of the worst, Torontonians appeared to make the best of a bad thing.
I dont know whats happened yet. Its just interesting to see what happens to a city when they have no power, mused Jaegar Barrymore as he watched fellow workers milling in a city famous for its good nature and politeness.
Im just going to hang out here for a while, and maybe itll [the subway] start working again, said IT technician Kevin McMahon, drinking a beer and smoking a cigarette. Otherwise, its a long walk home.
The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
3,346
posted on
08/15/2003 6:54:42 AM PDT
by
JustPiper
(We do not share a grid- We don't share a grid!)
To: Howlin
Checking in from Stamford, CT. Power came back at 12:02 this morning and all seems well right now.
3,347
posted on
08/15/2003 6:55:17 AM PDT
by
LisaFab
(Free Miguel Estrada!)
To: JustPiper
"...New Yorkers were given a special treat they never get to see, stars ;)..."
Just wondering if the International Space Station was in a position to get some photos of the Northeast. It would probably look like a black hole had formed and swallowed the whole area. May some satellites got some night pix of the event. If so, can't wait to see them, maybe on Astronomy Picture of the Day site. Hope the powerless gets it back soon. We here in Memphis had a storm that knocked our power out for a week so we can relate to your current predicament.
3,348
posted on
08/15/2003 6:59:20 AM PDT
by
NCC-1701
((Good luck, happy hunting, and God-speed to the US military and our allies in this operation.))
To: All
Long night's journey... Pedestrians walk along Broadway in Manhattan's Washington Heights neighborhood Thursday night as two New York City police officers, silhouetted at right, burn a flare and stand watch outside the Banco Popular bank.
into day The sun rises over the skyline of the Upper West Side of Manhattan as seen from Weehaken, N.J. on Friday.
Cooling off New York City Fire Lt. John Citerella of Rescue Three cools down by draping a wet towel over his head after a two-alarm fire in the Fieldston neighborhood of the Bronx early Friday.
Still stranded Commuters sleep on the steps of the Post Office on 33rd Street and Eighth Avenue in Manhattan early Friday after being stranded by the city's electrical blackout.
Down and out People make their way down a darkened stairway at an office building in Newark, N.J., Thursday. The widespread power outage stopped the elevators.
3,349
posted on
08/15/2003 6:59:23 AM PDT
by
JustPiper
(We do not share a grid- We don't share a grid!)
To: JustPiper
At the Marriott Marquis on Times Square, hundreds of people were sprawled on its driveway outside locked doors, and on sidewalks, curbs and patches of grass everywhere, exhausted men, women and children rested their heads wherever they could. People lay stranded outside the Times Square Marriot around 3 a.m. in the morning as a power outage shut down the Eastern Seaboard August 15, 2003. More than 12 hours after the biggest North American power outage in history left huge swaths of the Northeast in sweltering darkness, much of New York and its suburbs were still without electricity. REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton
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posted on
08/15/2003 7:02:03 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
To: FairOpinion
Its as simple as that. If you add a million new citizens to your state, which is exactly what happened in California, they come with power needs. Lights, heating, cooling, television sets and toasters. If you dont increase your power grids capacity, which is exactly what happened in California, your power grid will collapse under the added demand.On the bright side, because of GrayOut people are moving out of California.
Power plants are being built just across the border in Mexico, to full US specs (all the pollution lights whistles and bells) and tied to the US grid.
Why Mexico?
Ever tried to get a permit for ANYTHING in Kalistan???
To: All
Just lost power at 10:04 Am in Western New York, specifically Batavia. We had power last evening...
3,352
posted on
08/15/2003 7:03:15 AM PDT
by
Fury
To: All
Abandoning cellphones Tomas Andreda, left, and Nancy Acosta, center, were among those who turned to a pay phone to call family from after the blackout hit New York City on Thursday.
Pockets of order A New York City police officer directs traffic through Times Square after traffic signals failed with the power outage.
No-fly zone Travelers at Cleveland's Hopkins Airport line up in the ticketing area. The Northeast power failure disrupted air travel nationwide.
Buzz for batteries People scrambled at a hardware store in the Upper West Side of Manhattan, hoping to power their flashlights before nightfall.
Shopping light Marie Vortkamp, left, of Detroit, and friend James Ferriole of Grosse Pointe, Mich., get supplies at a Detroit market Thursday.
Homeward bound People flock over the Brooklyn Bridge during the outage in New York on Thursday.
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posted on
08/15/2003 7:04:27 AM PDT
by
JustPiper
(We do not share a grid- We don't share a grid!)
To: Fury
Just lost power at 10:04 Am in Western New York, specifically Batavia. We had power last evening Crap .. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come.
3,354
posted on
08/15/2003 7:04:42 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
To: Fury
Uh oh. You on NYSEG? They said last night that folks who have power should keep it.
To: Fury
I mean 9:38 Am. I got back from Mass and no power...
3,356
posted on
08/15/2003 7:05:11 AM PDT
by
Fury
To: OldFriend
Perhaps Chelsea has an editorial all ready for the NYSlimes.About her sleeping around on the streets, no doubt...
To: mewzilla
NiMo...
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posted on
08/15/2003 7:06:42 AM PDT
by
Fury
To: Joe Hadenuf
Checking in from New Jersey. Couldn't wait to check out the freeper thread on the blackout. This is the first chance I had to log in. Made my way home to south Jersey from NYC yesterday. Got home just before midnight last night. Like the rest of the masses, walked down 40 flights of stairs and walked from 48th and 6th down to the financial district, water bottle in hand. Caught the last ferry out and had to make my way from there. New Yorkers are an amazingly resilient bunch. It was 911 all over again, without the terror. Hope all freepers in the affected states made it home OK.
To: Helix
<.i>Do you know if Ann Arbor/Detroit are on the same grid as NYC? Or are they allinterconnected? It looks like they are on two....
Through Canada, yes.
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