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Major power surge in NY? (Blackout is in NYC, Detroit, Ottawa and Toronto, per Fox News)
8-14-03 | Joe Hadenuf

Posted on 08/14/2003 1:14:13 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf

Hannity station went dead for about 20 seconds. Said he had never seen anything like it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: Michigan; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Ohio
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To: CedarDave
Reporter says Canadians saying now it started at a nuclear plant in PA.

That's about the fifth reported cause....

2,701 posted on 08/14/2003 7:42:06 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: stage left
LOL! What station?
2,702 posted on 08/14/2003 7:42:10 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: hoosiermama
Not one map, really, no.
2,703 posted on 08/14/2003 7:42:13 PM PDT by lainie
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To: CedarDave
Weather gal on WNBC -- no storms at all in the Niagara Falls area. Reporter says Canadians saying now it started at a nuclear plant in PA.

Gov Ed Rendel was on MSNBC and says that story and the story about the PA plant being on fire is also not true

2,704 posted on 08/14/2003 7:42:17 PM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: Brian S
Ouch...I'm reporting from mid-Michigan area that didn't go dark and my lights are doing the dim-in, dim-out thingy as I type!

I'm way out here in the SW ---after the news came out about the big black-out, it was fun going around turning lights off on people just to watch their faces.

2,705 posted on 08/14/2003 7:42:45 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: ntnychik
Here is a lightning map

http://www.weathermatrix.net/2003/0814/ltg-anim-0308141800.gif

Nothing in the whole great lakes area north and south of the border.

2,706 posted on 08/14/2003 7:43:12 PM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: Fledermaus
hillary flew over to CNBC, too! She is such an evil, partisan bitch. Don't mind me..I'm just angry. President Bush has been trying to get the stupid Senate to pass an energy bill for the last two years and now hillary says today is his fault. Grrrrr...and Richardson called for investigations. Here we go again. Maybe I just need to stop watching any more of this tonight.
2,707 posted on 08/14/2003 7:43:53 PM PDT by Wait4Truth (God Bless our President!)
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To: hole_n_one
Granholm (Mich. gov.) said that the water is pressurized thru the pipes electrically, and consequently, no power = no water.

Wow -- is that widespread?

2,708 posted on 08/14/2003 7:43:57 PM PDT by lainie
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To: FITZ
haha!
2,709 posted on 08/14/2003 7:44:00 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: CedarDave
Weather gal on WNBC -- no storms at all in the Niagara Falls area. Reporter says Canadians saying now it started at a nuclear plant in PA.

Cuck Fanada.

2,710 posted on 08/14/2003 7:44:40 PM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I agree,I want to see some sort of action, Anything helpful, I feel for all those people.
2,711 posted on 08/14/2003 7:44:44 PM PDT by cmsgop (If you Spinkle When You Tinkle,...Be a Sweetie and Wipe the Seatie......)
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To: oceanview
Yes, one has to wonder why the Beest is so much on the offensive. She either smells blood or is trying to deflect with the "best defense is a good offense" tactic.

Maybe the Democrats caused the whole gosh-damned thing to stir up trouble. sheesh

Prairie
2,712 posted on 08/14/2003 7:44:52 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Middle East terrorists to the world: " We don't want no STINKING PEACE!!")
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To: lainie
I believe electricity is used to pump water into elevated tanks, and gravity does the rest. And yes, I believe this technique is almost universal.
2,713 posted on 08/14/2003 7:45:14 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: lainie
Cleveland has the same problem as Detroit re; the water.
2,714 posted on 08/14/2003 7:45:20 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: FourPeas
CMS - Consumer's Energy...
2,715 posted on 08/14/2003 7:45:29 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: oceanview
>>...Its all fluff, but that would have silenced the critics...<<

I heard one woman interviewed that said she wanted Bush to make a speech to reassure everyone that things would be all right.

Nice idea except the very people that needed reassuring wouldn't be able to hear him because they had no power!

2,716 posted on 08/14/2003 7:45:42 PM PDT by FReepaholic (My other tag line is hilarious.)
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To: Brian S
Ouch...I'm reporting from mid-Michigan area that didn't go dark and my lights are doing the dim-in, dim-out thingy as I type!

that appears to be an indication of the utility picking up load in areas that are blacked out. They'll pick up a little, the lights dim. Tnen they wait for the generators to catch up - the lights brighten up a bit. Then they pick up a little more. And so on...

2,717 posted on 08/14/2003 7:45:48 PM PDT by meyer
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To: prairiebreeze
There was another person(I forget who, perhaps the MSNBC guy in DC?) who said the latest theory is that it was a lightning strike, but in Quebec(which would fit with the weather) that was the trigger, but not why the problem cascaded. The problem was that the operators made a big mistake instead of following proper procedures, calling in power from elsewhere in the system, which caused a problematic surge/imbalance. It all happened in 9 seconds.
2,718 posted on 08/14/2003 7:45:49 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: FITZ
after the news came out about the big black-out, it was fun going around turning lights off on people just to watch their faces.

Heh heh heh - you too? that's why my boss told me I could go home early if I wanted ;0)

2,719 posted on 08/14/2003 7:45:49 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (The wages of sin are death, but by the time FICA and SSI are taken, it's just sorta tired feeling)
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To: Wait4Truth
Get this. The looneys at DU think this was all a Bush conspiracy to stop Hitlery's appearance tonight on "The Daily Show".
2,720 posted on 08/14/2003 7:46:29 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Read Hillary's hips. I never had sex with that woman.")
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