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New Dinosaur Species Found in India
AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

Posted on 08/13/2003 9:02:05 PM PDT by nwrep

New Dinosaur Species Found in India
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By RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM, Associated Press Writer

BOMBAY, India - U.S. and Indian scientists said Wednesday they have discovered a new carnivorous dinosaur species in India after finding bones in the western part of the country.

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The new dinosaur species was named Rajasaurus narmadensis, or "Regal reptile from the Narmada," after the Narmada River region where the bones were found.

The dinosaurs were between 25-30 feet long, had a horn above their skulls, were relatively heavy and walked on two legs, scientists said. They preyed on long-necked herbivorous dinosaurs on the Indian subcontinent during the Cretaceous Period at the end of the dinosaur age, 65 million years ago.

"It's fabulous to be able to see this dinosaur which lived as the age of dinosaurs came to a close," said Paul Sereno, a paleontologist at the University of Chicago. "It was a significant predator that was related to species on continental Africa, Madagascar and South America."

Working with Indian scientists, Sereno and paleontologist Jeff Wilson of the University of Michigan reconstructed the dinosaur skull in a project funded partly by the National Geographic (news - web sites) Society.

A model of the assembled skull was presented Wednesday by the American scientists to their counterparts from Punjab University in northern India and the Geological Survey of India during a Bombay news conference.

Scientists said they hope the discovery will help explain the extinction of the dinosaurs and the shifting of the continents — how India separated from Africa, Madagascar, Australia and Antarctica and collided with Asia.

The dinosaur bones were discovered during the past 18 years by Indian scientists Suresh Srivastava of the Geological Survey of India and Ashok Sahni, a paleontologist at Punjab University.

When the bones were examined, "we realized we had a partial skeleton of an undiscovered species," Sereno said.

The scientists said they believe the Rajasaurus roamed the Southern Hemisphere land masses of present-day Madagascar, Africa and South America.

"People don't realize dinosaurs are the only large-bodied animal that lived, evolved and died at a time when all continents were united," Sereno said.

The cause of the dinosaurs' extinction is still debated by scientists. The Rajasaurus discovery may provide crucial clues, Sereno said.

India has seen quite a few paleontological discoveries recently.

In 1997, villagers discovered about 300 fossilized dinosaur eggs in Pisdura, 440 miles northeast of Bombay, that Indian scientists said were laid by four-legged, long-necked vegetarian creatures.

Indian scientists said the dinosaur embryos in the eggs may have suffocated during volcanic eruptions.


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KEYWORDS: acanthostega; antarctica; australia; catastrophism; crevolist; dino; dinosaurs; godsgravesglyphs; ichthyostega; india; madagascar; narmadabasin; narmadensis; paleontology; rajasaurus; rino
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To: PatrickHenry
OOOPS!
3,101 posted on 08/27/2003 11:54:57 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: PatrickHenry
3101.
3,102 posted on 08/27/2003 11:55:51 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: PatrickHenry
4000?

Google Calculator: 3099+1

;-)

3,103 posted on 08/27/2003 11:59:13 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: RadioAstronomer
Hmmmm... Ellis-van Creveld syndrome. Maybe you have Amish roots ;^)
3,104 posted on 08/27/2003 12:01:58 PM PDT by BMCDA
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To: Ichneumon
Okay, okay. But at least 3100 is prime.
3,105 posted on 08/27/2003 12:17:39 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: BMCDA
Hmmmm... Ellis-van Creveld syndrome

Hmmm....Does that include two hearts, 29 chromosomes, and a mean body temp of 71.3 deg F?

3,106 posted on 08/27/2003 12:20:27 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Uh... in that case I think your father was an alien ;^)
3,107 posted on 08/27/2003 12:26:20 PM PDT by BMCDA
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To: BMCDA
Uh... in that case I think your father was an alien ;^)

ROFL! :-)

3,108 posted on 08/27/2003 12:31:25 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: BMCDA
Maybe you have Amish roots ;^)

A good cosmo(to)logist should be able to fix that.

3,109 posted on 08/27/2003 1:02:29 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
LOL! :-)
3,110 posted on 08/27/2003 1:11:23 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
To recapitulate: You have many features that appear to be alien. You spend your nights in some kind of "control room," admittedly communicating with no one on earth! You have an obsession with, and an uncanny knowledge of unearthly orbs. You monitor our activities by freeping on this website, and you have admitted (post 3095): "Posting to FR is alien communication." Yes, it would seem alien from your point of view. During the day, you seem to lie low, avoiding embarrassing confrontations with curious humans. What's even worse, and almost incomprehensible, are the many reliable reports that you have had your way -- your way! -- with several of our innocent earth women. You have thus far escaped detection because you probably live among isolated but tolerant villagers who, when they see you, mistakenly take your odd visage to be that of a yankee or some other kind of foreigner. But the game is drawing to a close. We're on to you now.
3,111 posted on 08/27/2003 2:52:10 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: PatrickHenry
hehehehehe

You missed the briefcase full of alien implants and crop circle construction energy beams.

3,112 posted on 08/27/2003 4:03:40 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: DittoJed2
One of my favorite Medved quotes:

I'm only "universally scorned" amongst jackasses, and guess what? I don't even LIKE jackasses, much less care what they think.

3,113 posted on 08/27/2003 4:25:05 PM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo; All
The constitutional wall the founders were building was ...

to protect state and individual rights from a national govt - religion ---

that WALL has been breeched - demolished by liberals !

"The real object of the [First] [A]mendment was not to countenance, much less to advance, Mahometanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects, and to prevent any ... national ecclesiastical establishment --- which should give to a hierarchy the exclusive patronage * * of the national government. It thus cut off the means of religious persecution (the vice and pest of former ages), and of the subversion of the rights of conscience in matters of religion, which had been trampled upon almost from the days of the Apostles to the present age. . . ." (Footnotes omitted.)

Check out the link above !

Old wall constitutionalist ... keep govt out ---

new wall constitutionalist (( sharia )) --- keep God out !

... * * ... guess who --- rag heads - liberals !

3,114 posted on 08/27/2003 6:27:18 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: nwrep
This one has gone on so long and grown so big (like a dinosaur, lol) I just had to get my PING in. :-)
3,115 posted on 08/27/2003 6:28:28 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
I'm only "universally scorned" amongst jackasses, and guess what? I don't even LIKE jackasses, much less care what they think.

Medved sure had a way with words, no wonder the evos had to get rid of him.

Anyways, since this thread has officially been deemed 'dead' by the pontifex maximus of the Church of Darwin, I guess I might as well end it with some scientific questions regarding evolution.

To claim that evolution is science, evolutionists would first have to answer several questions:

1. what exactly is THE theory of evolution? The one which has supposedly been scientifically verified? Without a theory it could not have been scientifically verified.
2. how can evolution give proof of descent from hundreds of millions of years back when it cannot even give proof of descent with the same kind of evidence (fossils) in the present time.
3. how can evolution be science when there is no evidence for transformations of species?
4. how can evolution be science when there is no explanation for how complex systems come about?
5. how does it scientifically answer the questions posed by opponents (other than calling them nincompoops)?
6. how can evolution be science when it denies causation, and natural laws - the basis of all scientific advances?
7. how can evolution be science when its propositions are constantly refuted by science?
8. how can evolution be science when its criteria for 'proof' is imagination, not observation?
9. how can evolution be science when it cannot point to any benefits to humanity being derived from applying it?

Since they cannot do so, it shows quite well that evolution is not science. Their failure to respond to this post (as they always do when asked to back up their claims) will be even more proof that evolution is not science.

3,116 posted on 08/27/2003 6:36:19 PM PDT by gore3000 (ALS - Another good Christian banned from FR)
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To: AndrewC
There is no way that evolution is falsifiable!

What would happen if you found the same viral renanis in the same place in hte genom of a whale and a cow, but didn't find it in the genome of a hippo? ditto, in people, orangutans, and chimps?

what would happen if you found a rabbit fossil in a coal seam ? Or a preCambrian amphibian?

Answer: You'd be well on your way to falsifying standard biology.

3,117 posted on 08/27/2003 6:36:39 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American
You'd be well on your way to falsifying standard biology.

It did not stop biology when the hippo and whale were found to be the closest related genera among all other living genera. The paleontologists denied that for a while. When the DNA evidence was insurmountable, a suitable substitute for the ancestor of the whale was found that allowed it to be placed closer to the hippo. They now admit that the whale is an artiodactyl yet they refuse to place it close to the hippo. Why? Picture the pakicetus buried underneath the camels, pigs, ruminants, and hippos.


3,118 posted on 08/27/2003 6:57:38 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
All thanks to evolution !

The govt is functioning under herd instinct now ... cattle pens --- packing house !

Feed lot education too !
3,119 posted on 08/27/2003 8:22:22 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: AndrewC
hippo and whale were found to be the closest related genera among all other living genera

Closer than chimps/people?

They now admit that the whale is an artiodactyl yet they refuse to place it close to the hippo.

Huh? Hippos are closest to whales in the diagram you posted. Earlier speculations have been shown to be wrong - that's the way science works.

As I said, If you could find the same retroposon in the same place in cows and whales, then it will also be found in hippos, or the ToE has taken a *major* hit.
ID/Creationism has no explanation for this fact, other than a completely ad-hoc
"Well, they were just designed that way; wouldn't you use spare cow parts if you were designing a whale or hippo?"

3,120 posted on 08/27/2003 8:26:59 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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