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Gays Force The Issue (GOP trying to attract gays)
US News & World Report ^ | 8/13/03 | Dan Gilgoff

Posted on 08/13/2003 3:07:35 PM PDT by M 91 u2 K

Gays Force The Issue Republicans and Democrats are discovering they can't avoid homosexual politics. The question is, where are the votes?

By Dan Gilgoff At a congressional fundraiser last summer, Bob Kabel got the chance to do what most Republicans only dream of: pose for a photo with George W. Bush. Then Kabel, a former chairman of the Log Cabin Republicans--the country's biggest gay GOP group--won an even rarer prize: a personal message from the president. "I know exactly who y'all are," Bush told Kabel. "I'm working so that people don't have heartburn over your issues." Kabel was moved, but the Republicans have suffered plenty of heartburn over his issues since then.

On the other side of the aisle, things have been a bit awkward as well. At a July 15 Human Rights Campaign forum for the Democratic presidential contenders, the moderator grilled Sen. John Kerry on why he supports gay "civil unions" but opposes gay marriage. "I think it's important to do first of all what we can do," Kerry said, suggesting it was the country, not himself, that wasn't ready for same-sex marriage. Howard Dean, who as governor signed a law making Vermont the only state to legalize gay civil unions, also stumbled over the gay-marriage question. He finally asked the moderator to change the subject.

Gay issues represent rocky terrain for Republicans and Democrats alike, but suddenly there's just no avoiding them. In June, a landmark Supreme Court ruling overturned a Texas antisodomy law and effectively legalized homosexuality. Last week, the Episcopal Church elected its first openly gay bishop. President Bush stepped into the fray late last month, saying he had lawyers studying how best to "codify" marriage as a male-female institution. In Canada, two provinces have recently begun minting gay-marriage licenses. And the United States may not be far behind: Decisions pending in the high courts of Massachusetts and New Jersey could soon legalize gay marriage there. As the 2004 elections inch closer, the recent march of events presents the two parties with starkly different challenges. For the Democrats, the trick is not coming off as too gay-friendly to a nation that's still wrestling with its views on gay rights. The Republicans, meanwhile, must mobilize a voter base of religious social conservatives without alienating swing voters by seeming intolerant.

Bush has tried to keep his distance from the string of recent controversies, but it hasn't been easy, and the president has at times seemed squeamish. "I am mindful that we're all sinners," he said in response to a press conference question last month. "And I caution those who may try to take the speck out of the neighbor's eye when they've got a log in their own." Bush kept mum on the Supreme Court decision in June and has hedged on whether he supports a constitutional amendment barring gay marriage, which has been introduced in the House of Representatives. Still, the president has quietly extended a hand to gays, appointing a gay ambassador to Romania and signing a bill that extends benefits to same-sex partners of District of Columbia employees. "We don't always agree" with the administration, says Log Cabin Republican Executive Director Patrick Guerriero, "but the lines of communication we have are unprecedented."

It's a far cry from the GOP of the early 1990s, which saw Pat Buchanan deliver a speech at the '92 Republican convention that assaulted Clinton-Gore for being "the most . . . pro-gay ticket in history." "The difference [in] attitudes toward gays between 10 years ago and now is night and day," says former Wyoming Sen. Alan Simpson, honorary chairman of the Republican Unity Coalition, a group bent on making homosexuality a nonissue within the party. "There isn't a person in the U.S. who doesn't have somebody among their friends, family, or associates who isn't gay." Indeed, 22 percent of Americans reported having a gay friend or acquaintance in 1985; by 2000, that number was 56 percent.

But social conservatives warn that GOP efforts to expand the "big tent" threaten to keep religious voters away from the polls in 2004. Bush political adviser Karl Rove has complained publicly that 4 million of 19 million white evangelical voters stayed home on Election Day 2000. Self-described "pro-family" groups say Bush hasn't done enough to stymie what they call the "radical homosexual agenda."

Not a gay-rights crusader by any standard, Bush worries social conservatives because he's seen as equivocating on gay-rights issues--declining to support Sen. Rick Santorum's warning this spring that legalized sodomy would lead to legalized incest and, so far, withholding support for a marriage amendment. "Politicians always try to go hunting in the base of their opponents to peel off a couple votes," says American Values President and former presidential candidate Gary Bauer. "But it will become increasingly untenable for a pro-family president to be agnostic on the question of how to preserve a traditional marriage." Indeed, Bush's recent remarks on the need to protect the legal definition of marriage signals a shift to the right. Gay groups, meanwhile, are also calling on Bush to clarify his positions. "It's going to be impossible to get through this campaign," says the LCR's Guerriero, "without being asked if gays and lesbians deserve the same rights as all Americans."

Delicate balance. If GOP architects get their way, though, both sides are poised for disappointment. "The president has handled this issue with great delicacy and sensitivity, and he needs to continue doing just that," says Republican pollster Whit Ayres. "Gay rights is not a major issue to anyone other than gays." Maybe.

The Democrats, meanwhile, are hoping to derail Bush's big-tent strategy by painting the president as intolerant, while trying not to appear too far to the left on gay rights themselves. Most of the nine Democratic presidential contenders back some sort of gay civil unions, though the early front-runners, like Kerry, Dean, Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman, and Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri, oppose gay marriage. The Democrats unanimously support initiatives that Bush has kept quiet on or has opposed: outlawing workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation, extending the federal hate-crimes law to protect gays, and--with the exception of Bob Graham--repealing the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Unlike Bush, the Democratic contenders are depending on gays for campaign contributions. But appearing to be aligned with gay groups may have drawbacks. So some strategists suggest the Democrats' fervor over gay rights will subside as the election nears. "Most people don't care about this issue," says Democratic consultant Douglas Hattaway. "The average voter is wondering why the president is talking about gay marriage when millions . . . are out of work and soldiers are getting killed in Iraq."

What the jockeying over gay politics really reflects is the search for any advantage among those crucial blocs of swing voters. Bush's strategy is aimed less at appealing to gays--who composed roughly 5 percent of the vote in 2000 and who voted 3 to 1 for Al Gore--and more at live-and-let-live swing voters, namely suburban women and independents, who experts say are turned off by a perception of intolerance. Though most polls on gay rights don't break down responses demographically, women tend to be more in favor of gay rights than men, while Hispanics--a fast-growing segment of the swing vote--tend to be socially conservative. Polls on gay issues have generally revealed an increasingly tolerant public, though there's evidence of a backlash since the Supreme Court struck down Texas's sodomy law. Last spring, a Gallup Poll found the country evenly split over gay civil unions. But asked last month whether homosexual relations between consenting adults should be legal, 48 percent of Americans said yes, down from 60 percent in May. Those expected court decisions in New Jersey and Massachusetts could move the poll results yet again. Political operatives from both parties will be watching closely.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; backlash; bush; cino; cinos; conservatism; culturewar; downourthroats; gays; hispanics; homosexual; homosexualagenda; innameonly; lawrencevtexas; lcr; liberals; logcabinrepub; logcabinrepublicans; notconservatives; rino; rinos; sellouts; selltheirsouls4votes; socialliberals; wontstandonprinciple
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Bush told Kabel. "I'm working so that people don't have heartburn over your issues."

At least we know who Bush is working for.

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1 posted on 08/13/2003 3:07:35 PM PDT by M 91 u2 K
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To: M 91 u2 K
Pandering to 2% of the population. I'm not surprised.
2 posted on 08/13/2003 3:11:18 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Too much Bozo Spew broke my bozo filter)
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3 posted on 08/13/2003 3:13:43 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: M 91 u2 K
"I know exactly who y'all are," Bush told Kabel. "I'm working so that people don't have heartburn over your issues." George Bush

"You will know a tree by the fruit that it produces"
Jesus Christ.


Please Define "Abomination", Mr. President.
4 posted on 08/13/2003 3:23:27 PM PDT by VxH
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To: Sir Gawain
I was sick of Clinton pandering to, illegal aliens, gays, unions public educators etc, but now I am simply discussed that Bush is doing the same thing.




"I know exactly who y'all (gays) are,"


Give me a break!
5 posted on 08/13/2003 3:24:31 PM PDT by jsbankston
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To: jsbankston
I'm glad I don't know who you'll are. A deep admission by none other than our family values, no child left behind, AIDs activist, Commander-in-chief.
6 posted on 08/13/2003 3:36:55 PM PDT by meenie
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"...31 homosexual and pro-homosexual groups admitted the following: "The most widely accepted study of sexual practices in the United States is the National Health and Social Life Survey (NHSLS). The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual."

http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/two.php
7 posted on 08/13/2003 3:41:04 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (All Dems is Pimps and Ho's)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Like your tag line but it begs the question of what our president is if he is pandering to the gay lobby.
8 posted on 08/13/2003 4:01:03 PM PDT by jsbankston
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To: M 91 u2 K
Presumably Bush is doing what he thinks is right, consistent with his conscience, which is what he should do. Pity, the political reality is that he cannot tell those who wish him to join any endeavor to marginal gays in this society, to just shove it. So, let me do it for him. If the shoe fits, shove it. If you don't like it, don't vote for Bush. In fact, I don't want you to vote for Bush. You know who you are.
9 posted on 08/13/2003 4:01:41 PM PDT by Torie
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To: scripter
Ping

read later...



Choice4Truth

10 posted on 08/13/2003 4:01:50 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: Torie
marginal = marginalize
11 posted on 08/13/2003 4:02:48 PM PDT by Torie
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To: M 91 u2 K
Progressive Conservatism...
Leave no log jammers behind ( no pun intended)
12 posted on 08/13/2003 4:30:57 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy
The cynic in me would like to wish the homosexuals all the joy and love that was my first marriage.Nevermind nobody deserves that.
13 posted on 08/13/2003 4:51:43 PM PDT by edchambers
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To: M 91 u2 K
Queer Eye for the Bush Guy............
14 posted on 08/13/2003 4:57:37 PM PDT by CarmelValleyite
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To: Torie
So, let me do it for him. If the shoe fits, shove it. If you don't like it, don't vote for Bush. In fact, I don't want you to vote for Bush. You know who you are.

I am applauding you here at my keyboard. I am so tired of this issue popping up here with rhetoric that would make Stalin, Castro, Hitler and the Taliban proud.

15 posted on 08/13/2003 5:07:55 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
The NHSLS found that 2.8% of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual."

These articles brush over whether "gays" refers to only male homosexuals, or to females as well.

Any notion that Republicans are going to make headway amongst lesbians is too ludicrous to mention.

Effectively, the only possible nascent gay Republicans (if there is any such thing) is among male homosexuals, which would be a huge 1.4% of the overall population.

Of this 1.4%, what percentage could Republicans successfully "woo" (by sticking a thumb in the eye of socially traditional conservatives)? 10%????

So get an additional 0.14% vote, antagonize 50% of your voters. Sounds like a winning formula to me.

Log Cabin Republicans National Convention. Note the huge turnout (70 people?) Note they predominately men ( and nattily attired!):

16 posted on 08/13/2003 5:22:00 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: M 91 u2 K; Sir Gawain; Cindy; VxH; jsbankston; meenie; At _War_With_Liberals; Torie; joesnuffy; ...
Be sure to vote "yes" at this CNN poll and pass it on >

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/30/bush.gay.marriage/index.html

17 posted on 08/13/2003 6:02:40 PM PDT by Susannah (Over 200 people murdered in L. A.County-first 5 mos. of 2003 & NONE were fighting Iraq!!)
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To: M 91 u2 K
The GOP is trying to attract everyone but Conservatives, which are jumping ship at an alarming rate. WTG, GOP.
18 posted on 08/13/2003 9:11:37 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: M 91 u2 K
Bush is taking conservatives for granted. He and his handlers are embarassed to be seen with conservatives. Neither Bush nor any other administration official could bring himself to attend last year's annual CPAC conference. Yet Bush has found the time in his busy schedule to meet with the alternative lifestyles lobby.

Not one item on the conservative agenda has been addressed during this administration. Yet Bush has signed the tyrannical McCain-Feingold law, extended unemployment benefits upteen times, expanded the Department of Education, proposed a gigantic new prescription drug entitlement, and praised the Supreme Court for recognizing "diversity." To pacify conservatives, he has nominated judges who he knows don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting confirmed.

The Republican Party is not a conservative party; it isn't even a status quo party. It is a liberal party. Simply put, it is time for conservatives to find a new home.

19 posted on 08/13/2003 9:53:36 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: Torie
There is no such creature as a "gay," Torie; there is no third or fourth gender.

There are men. There are women. That's it. The rights of each are fully protected.

Conservative men and women of good faith have always been welcome in the Republican Party and always will be.

When you understand these simple truths, your confusion vanishes, and the the so-called gay agenda stands before you exposed as a fraud.

20 posted on 08/13/2003 10:08:32 PM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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