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White without Apology
TooGoodReports ^ | 08/13/03 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 08/13/2003 6:57:47 AM PDT by bedolido

While doing my weekly shopping at the Jewel-Osco, I overheard a very unusual conversation. It was between two young baggers who were talking about an article one of them had read regarding President Lincoln. Both men happened to be black. One of them informed the other that President Lincoln cared nothing about blacks and was actually a racist. I was stunned. I wanted to interject a million things to their discussion but I didn’t. Instead, I silently watched the checker ring up my order. The incident immediately brought to mind the old commercial from the seventies where tears run down the eye of an Indian brave as he paddles across a river filled with pollutants. I felt like that Indian as I listened to President Lincoln, the man who freed the slaves, badmouthed by a couple of assistants in a grocery store.

This was the same Lincoln who, during a triumphant walk through Richmond, told a group of bowing slaves to get up because the only king they should bow to was Jesus Christ. I wanted to explain to the clerks that men should be judged by the standards of the days in which they live. Some of Lincoln’s opinions may seem outlandish today, but during the 1860’s he was one of the most enlightened men on the continent. By the standards of the nineteenth century, black Americans had no better friend than Abraham Lincoln.

Race is the biggest taboo issue in America today. Almost everyone acknowledges this but acknowledgement does not make our dialogues any smoother. I discovered this for myself the other day after I wrote a column about rap music. It was a favorable elaboration upon one wrote for City-Journal by John McWhorter. Based on my observations of urban youth, I supported McWhorter’s claim that rap music keeps blacks down through its celebration of pointless rebellion, violence, and nihilism. I received many irate responses. One of them turned into a ten email debate with a reader. By the end of the discussion, we knew a great deal about one another and, vicariously, quite a bit about discussing race in America.

Our little dispute could well have been a microcosm of the nation as a whole. It is unfortunate that I, and numerous other Caucasians, do not always emphatically state our views when asked. Yet, there are major hazards to beware of when addressing race. You never know what the reaction of the person you’re speaking to may be and no one wants to get fired over a conversation.

I could tell that the young man at the other end of the server was not used to dealing with white people like me. He only knows whites who defer to him and agree when he says that he has been wronged. He has been conditioned into thinking that all whites will apologize for their ancestry. I, absolutely, and under no circumstance, will ever apologize for my ancestors. In fact, thank G-d for my ancestors! I wish there were more Americans like them.

He began our exchange by telling me that I shouldn’t be writing about rap music at all as I don’t know anything about it. He also believes that there is nothing wrong with it and that it doesn’t harm anyone. I countered by stating that, while it’s true that I don’t know all the names of the famous rappers, I have unfortunately been subjected to a ton of it and know firsthand adolescents who emulate the words and actions of their favorite stars.

The dialogue went downhill from there (if that’s possible). There was practically no common ground between us, yet I think that is how it should be. White Americans, if they honestly responded to the claims of black separatists and black powerites, would hear little with which to agree.

Most Caucasian Americans are hard-working and middle class. There are very few like Bill Gates or Paul Allen. Most of us make a decent wage and are content with it. We oppress no one. No ancestors of mine were in the United States before 1910, but, even if they were, it would be superfluous as I personally have committed no wrongs to anyone. I told the young man that white guilt is one of the most pernicious influences within our society. Although this white guilt has not hurt our economic success, it has made many whites regard themselves as being morally inferior to the rest of the population.

He made the point that “institutional racism” is the reason many blacks “have not made it.” I told him there was no such thing. It is a creation of the university Marxists who have substituted “African-Americans, Hispanics, women and gays” for the word “proletariat.” The entire concept of “oppressed” and “oppression” is merely idiotic Marxist claptrap. It’s a product of juvenile leftists and should be disregarded. Besides, if there were such a thing as institutional racism no blacks would have ever made it. They’re be no Cedric the Entertainer’s, Deion Sanders’, Tiger Woods’ or Halle Berry’s. If there were any truth in the flawed rubric of institutional racism, all the aforementioned successful blacks would have been poor sharecroppers rather than cultural icons.

We, of course, also clashed on affirmative action. He regarded it as a prerequisite for black success. He said, “The Supreme Court finally got it right.” I, on the other hand, think, “The Supreme Court wrote more legislation.” Clearly, affirmative action is one of the reasons blacks have not been more successful since 1970. You can’t put an average student in Cal Tech and expect them to flourish. They fail and the race hustlers could care less how the experience impedes their future development. Even more grievous, is that affirmative action gives racism the imprimatur of the state. A federal stamp of approval compounds its evil.

Towards the end of our exchange, the reader admitted that he felt blacks should not have to work more than one job and do overtime to get ahead in life. Their route should be more direct. He felt long hours were for immigrants and that “we’ve already played that game.” He argued that blacks have put their blood and sweat into this country’s infrastructure and deserve reparation for their effort.

Honestly, I have no respect for this argument whatsoever. The request for reparations could not be less valid. Blacks in America already have the world’s greatest reparation: United States citizenship. Every single one of the reader’s racial cousins in Africa, or anywhere else in the world for that matter, would kill to be in his shoes. They would stow away in a mouse trap just to get here and have an opportunity to be Americans. Most of them fantasize about an existence without murderous kleptomaniac dictators and having children who are free from disease. America is opportunity and blacks are no different from whites in that we all should be forever thankful that we somehow got to these shores.

I discovered that I profited greatly from this reader. Christopher Hitchens, in his fascinating book, Letters to a Young Contrarian, informs us that the great thing about argumentation is that both sides refine and modify their positions which doing it. I hold this to be true and my exchange with the young man is evidence of it.

In this particular argument, I realized something that I never had before. Clearly, it is conservatives like me who care about poor blacks (most, in fact, are middle class) as opposed to the pseudo-liberals. We offer them the best route for advancement. We want to challenge them and make them stronger. We resist the desire to infantilize them. By treating them like adults and inculcating responsibility through achievement, they will prosper just as every other group of Americans have before them.

My opponent, perhaps unconsciously, wants them to stay poor so he can continue to berate America and critique our way of life. Were their lot to suddenly improve, he’d have no positions and no identity.

Before this conversation, I never realized just how much that I am rooting for poor black folks. I want them to be as productive as everyone else and to “make it” in America. I want no less for them than I do for myself. It would please me to no end if all our citizens were grateful for what they have. No white people get anything out of a major percentage of the population being resentful and angry.

Racial harmony can only be achieved if we treat one another as individuals and not as members of fictitious classes. If you want to be oppressed you’ll find a way to be oppressed, and such a condition damages society as a whole. Racism is wrong in any of its manifestations. We will never all get along if we continue to pretend that some of us, due to the melanin content in our skin, are better than others. Period.

To comment on this article or express your opinion directly to the author, you are invited to e-mail Bernard at bchapafl@hotmail.com .


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: apology; oppression; race; victimhood; white; without
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1 posted on 08/13/2003 6:57:47 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
Best article I've seen in a long, long time...
2 posted on 08/13/2003 7:04:36 AM PDT by abner (In search of a witty tag line...)
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To: bedolido
I may have to print this article out and just hand it to some of the idiots that I have debated about this issue.

By the way, I am finding the easiest way to pick a debate with a douche-bag liberal is to walk into any coffee shop with a shirt that says, "I love Bush". Most everyone that hangs out at these places seems to be a psuedo-intellectual Marxist piece of crap. Very easy to debate and conquer. Handing them this article when they talk about "oppression" might be some additional ammo. Of course, when handing them this article, it would be best to add, "...and while you are trying to improve yourself, bath."

3 posted on 08/13/2003 7:09:15 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: bedolido
I'm pissed that he let Lincoln's name be besmirched. He should have piped up then.
4 posted on 08/13/2003 7:11:36 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: bedolido
Lincoln, by the standards of today, WAS a racist ('course these days anybody who believes that a person should be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin is probably a racist by NAALCP standards...). Among other things, he wanted to colonize blacks back to Africa. He fought the Civil War (aka War of Northern Agression) to preserve the Union, not to free the slaves; slavery was largely a propaganda issue to keep England and France out of the war.
That said, we can't really judge him by the standards of today. For the mid-19th century his outlook was reasonable and benign; there were many folks (North AND South) that didn't even see blacks (or Indians, or Chinese, or Irish...) as human...
As shown in the anecdote, Lincoln treated blacks as equals whether or not he believed they were equal and believed that was the law should deal with them this way also.

Not my favorite President, but not the monster of "The Real Lincoln" either.
5 posted on 08/13/2003 7:11:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
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To: bedolido
It was between two young baggers who were talking about an article one of them had read regarding President Lincoln. Both men happened to be black. One of them informed the other that President Lincoln cared nothing about blacks and was actually a racist.

With one or two well chosen pings, I could turn this into a civil war thread. I won't do it. But I could. Instead, I'll just make a crack and say I hadn't realized Lew Rockwell was actually a black grocery store clerk, and leave it at that.

6 posted on 08/13/2003 7:12:03 AM PDT by Huck
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

7 posted on 08/13/2003 7:16:21 AM PDT by mhking
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To: stainlessbanner
have at it.
8 posted on 08/13/2003 7:16:59 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: bedolido
Besides, if there were such a thing as institutional racism no blacks would have ever made it. They’re be no Cedric the Entertainer’s, Deion Sanders’, Tiger Woods’ or Halle Berry’s.

Not to nitpick, but he really should have tried to name somebody who isn’t an entertainer.

Maybe Clarence Thomas, Neil Tyson, Condoleeza Rice, etc.

9 posted on 08/13/2003 7:22:31 AM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Little Ray
Correct. Lincoln freed the slaves, (the southern ones, anyway) for political reason, not for moral ones. The northern slaves weren't freed until after his death.
10 posted on 08/13/2003 7:26:57 AM PDT by squidly
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To: bedolido
EXCELLENT ARTICLE

I just want to know when we are going to celebrate White History Month, when there will be a box labled "European-American" to check on my drivers license application, and when can I expect my reparations check from the government for killing many of my German ancestors?

11 posted on 08/13/2003 7:37:39 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (Remember Baron 52: Not all the POW/MIAs came home.)
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To: Huck
With one or two well chosen pings, I could turn this into a civil war thread. I won't do it. But I could.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Don't you go makin' no threats, Huck, ya hear?
12 posted on 08/13/2003 7:43:32 AM PDT by wasp69 (Remember, Uday in Pig Latin is DU)
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To: squidly
The northern slaves weren't freed until after his death.

Northern slaves? The Emancipation Proclamation freed all slaves in the United States. Even before that the northern states had outlawed slavery (maybe not in reality). I am not familiar with northern slavery. What is your source?

13 posted on 08/13/2003 7:43:41 AM PDT by bedolido (None of us is as dumb as all of us!)
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To: bedolido
...It is unfortunate that I, and numerous other Caucasians, do not always emphatically state our views when asked...

I always have.
Course, I've never been able to work in the corporate world where PC and BS is a way of life.

As to Institutionalized Racism, there certainly is that. The Supreme Court made it the law of the land with their recent decision.

It just happens to be anti-white.
14 posted on 08/13/2003 7:46:32 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Mean spirited liberals suck!)
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To: bedolido; mhking
He made the point that “institutional racism” is the reason many blacks “have not made it.” I told him there was no such thing. It is a creation of the university Marxists who have substituted “African-Americans, Hispanics, women and gays” for the word “proletariat.”

Lends credence to my theory that American blacks are in what I call "The Marxist Laboratory."

15 posted on 08/13/2003 7:52:39 AM PDT by rdb3 (I'm not a complete idiot. Several parts are missing.)
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To: bedolido
What I learned in AP History is the the Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the occupied South. There were slave states that remained in the Union, but in order to keep their support, Lincoln couldn't free the slaves in those states (it's been too long, I can't remember which states those were). I think I'll go look around to give you evidence...
16 posted on 08/13/2003 7:54:48 AM PDT by Ayn Rand wannabe (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups!)
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To: bedolido
The Emancipation Proclamation freed all slaves in the United States.

Now, therefore, I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, by virtue of the power in me vested as Commander-In-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States in time of actual armed rebellion against the authority and government of the United States, and as a fit and necessary war measure for supressing said rebellion, do, on this 1st day of January, A.D. 1863, and in accordance with my purpose so to do, publicly proclaimed for the full period of one hundred days from the first day above mentioned, order and designate as the States and parts of States wherein the people thereof, respectively, are this day in rebellion against the United States the following, to wit:

Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana (except the parishes of St. Bernard, Palquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James, Ascension, Assumption, Terrebone, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the city of New Orleans), Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkeley, Accomac, Morthhampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Anne, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth), and which excepted parts are for the present left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued.


In short, President Licoln attempted to free those whom he had no control over and leave those in chains that he did. But, that is a topic for another thread.

I am not familiar with northern slavery. What is your source?

The very document you reference.
17 posted on 08/13/2003 7:55:07 AM PDT by wasp69 (Remember, Uday in Pig Latin is DU)
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To: bedolido
I do know many union shops in the North refused to hire escaped or freed slaves. They were just as racist as the South is portrayed to have been. They just did a better job at hiding it.
18 posted on 08/13/2003 7:55:49 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: Ayn Rand wannabe; bedolido
it's been too long, I can't remember which states those were

Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, West Virginia.
19 posted on 08/13/2003 7:57:30 AM PDT by wasp69 (Remember, Uday in Pig Latin is DU)
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To: Ayn Rand wannabe; bedolido
it's been too long, I can't remember which states those were

Missouri, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, West Virginia.
20 posted on 08/13/2003 7:58:50 AM PDT by wasp69 (Remember, Uday in Pig Latin is DU)
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