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TooGoodReports ^ | 08/13/03 | Bernard Chapin

Posted on 08/13/2003 6:57:47 AM PDT by bedolido

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To: bedolido
The Emancipation Proclamation freed all slaves in the United States. Even before that the northern states had outlawed slavery

The EP only freed the slaves within the states that were in rebellion, straight from the EP itself: all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free

Slaves in states that did not secede, Maryland, Kentucky, Delaware, Missouri, were not freed until passage of the 13th Amendment after Lincoln's death.

21 posted on 08/13/2003 7:58:50 AM PDT by squidly
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To: bedolido
Wasp69 beat me to it, but that's alright:

"That on the 1st day of January, A.D. 1863, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the executive government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom.

Or here: http://www.nps.gov/ncro/anti/emancipation.html
Excerpted from the Emancipation Proclamation
22 posted on 08/13/2003 7:59:03 AM PDT by Ayn Rand wannabe (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups!)
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To: squidly
looks like some folks beat me to it (g)
23 posted on 08/13/2003 7:59:42 AM PDT by squidly
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To: wasp69
Vielen Dank.
24 posted on 08/13/2003 8:00:35 AM PDT by Ayn Rand wannabe (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups!)
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To: wardaddy; Constitution Day
Damn - its a working morning - I can't grab a bucket of popcorn and a beer to watch this one.
25 posted on 08/13/2003 8:00:45 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine ("What if the hokey pokey is really what its all about?" - Jean Paul Sartre)
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To: Huck; justshutupandtakeit; stand watie; WhiskeyPapa; southern cross forever
With one or two well chosen pings, I could turn this into a civil war thread. I won't do it. But I could.

Why, whatever do you mean???

26 posted on 08/13/2003 8:02:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING BUT OCCASIONALLY READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Look at my post below yours, and revel in the fact that we are utterly evil.....
27 posted on 08/13/2003 8:03:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING BUT OCCASIONALLY READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: WestPacSailor
when we are going to celebrate White History Month, when there will be a box labled "European-American" to check on my drivers license application, and when can I expect my reparations check from the government for killing many of my German ancestors?

Hear, hear!

28 posted on 08/13/2003 8:03:54 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Ayn Rand wannabe
Any time.
29 posted on 08/13/2003 8:04:12 AM PDT by wasp69 (Remember, Uday in Pig Latin is DU)
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To: mattdono
walk into any coffee shop with a shirt that says, "I love Bush".

That gets me applause at my local sports bar. Also at WNBA games.

30 posted on 08/13/2003 8:04:57 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Lazamataz
Look at my post below yours, and revel in the fact that we are utterly evil.....

Laz, you are truly an irreverant breath of fresh air on FR. And you are utterly evil.
31 posted on 08/13/2003 8:05:17 AM PDT by wasp69 (Remember, Uday in Pig Latin is DU)
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To: bedolido
Conservatives will always have problems attracting the have-nots, because the conservative message is to tell someone that they are better off earning things on their own than stuff being given to them. Opportunity is the only thing that is owed all Americans. Liberals will always have the edge in attracting "the less fortunate", because people will always support the people that "give" them something. That "minorities" do not realize that all liberals give them are anchors around their necks is a tragedy. President Bush has a bully pulpit, and he must use it. He must pound home the conservative AMERICAN!! message.
32 posted on 08/13/2003 8:06:40 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: rdb3
that's a chilling way of putting it.
hmmm.
I like it. I trust I have your leave to use it?
33 posted on 08/13/2003 8:06:50 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: Lazamataz
Oh, dude - there is something wrong with you. LOL.
34 posted on 08/13/2003 8:09:01 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine ("What if the hokey pokey is really what its all about?" - Jean Paul Sartre)
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To: Huck
Thank you very much for NOT turning this into a Civil War thread. There are plenty of those already.
35 posted on 08/13/2003 8:09:49 AM PDT by rdb3 (I'm not a complete idiot. Several parts are missing.)
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To: Larry Lucido
That gets me applause at my local sports bar.

I usually will add in, "...and the President too".

36 posted on 08/13/2003 8:11:15 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: King Prout
I like it. I trust I have your leave to use it?

Most def. Have at it.

37 posted on 08/13/2003 8:13:51 AM PDT by rdb3 (I'm not a complete idiot. Several parts are missing.)
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To: Lazamataz
LOL!
38 posted on 08/13/2003 8:14:32 AM PDT by Huck
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To: wasp69
Nice sting, Wasp!
39 posted on 08/13/2003 8:15:48 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: Huck; wasp69; Chancellor Palpatine
:o)
40 posted on 08/13/2003 8:16:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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