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To: RightWinger
Amen to that. I believe that the Episcopal Church will lose at least 25% of its membership over this.
3 posted on 08/11/2003 3:02:45 AM PDT by gsrinok
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The really ironic part is that they will be losing the 25% that take their church seriously. You know, ones that do the volunteer work and the tithing.
5 posted on 08/11/2003 3:08:03 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Under advice from my lawyer I will now be known as Mostly Harmless Teddy Bear)
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To: gsrinok
Amen to that. I believe that the Episcopal Church will lose at least 25% of its membership over this.

I shudder to think that they will attempt to make up for the loss by "cruising" the local Sunday schools...

6 posted on 08/11/2003 3:12:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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I think their attitude is ``good riddance.''
7 posted on 08/11/2003 3:45:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway (a a)
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The US Episcopal Church will lose very few members overall. The individuals who actually read the Bible in the Episcopal Church will be replaced by gays and by straight liberals who will use out of context quotes to justify gay marriage, abortion, euthanasia, and any other human activity that places convenience before righteousness.

The word "sin" will only be used when describing right wing conservatives who are "judgmental". Indeed, I foresee a time when the US Episcopal Church updates the Bible to rid it of any negative references to homosexuality.

Verses in Leviticus and Deuteronomy regarding punishment for homosexuals will be deleted or re-translated. The "sin" of same sex relationships will be replaced by the "sin" of non-consensual sex between men and men, women and women, adults and children, adults and animals. As long as the man, woman, child, or sheep is a willing participant in any type of "loving" sexual relationship, then Episcopalians can be expected to support such behavior.

The Bible, after all, is a "living document" in the way that the Constitution is a "living document". Times change, and the prohibitions against homosexuality, bestiality, and infanticide in the form of abortion must be updated to reflect a more enlightened world outlook.

Naturally, God wants us to change with the times, too. He wants us to replace the Book of Romans with the Book of Vermont. Corinthians shall be replaced by 1st and 2nd San Franciscans. The Gospel of John will be updated to the Gospel of John and Bruce.

God can hardly wait for the rest of His Church to become so enlightened....

9 posted on 08/11/2003 4:11:27 AM PDT by freebilly
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Sadly I dont think so, If there have not already been mass defections I have no reason to think they would start now..

Like most sects in America they have been hypnotised to think that tolerance equals love..

13 posted on 08/11/2003 4:54:14 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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I used that very same number in talking with my friend about the situation. In addition, it will certainly slow the growth of the church if in fact there has been any growth in the church. Families will certainly not be attracted to a church that promotes deviant sexual behavior especially after the Catholic priest scandals.
18 posted on 08/11/2003 5:27:57 AM PDT by mel
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Amen to that. I believe that the Episcopal Church will lose at least 25% of its membership over this.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't expect them to lose a significant number of members. This ordination is not an isolated event, but the result (and not the final result) of years of corruption. How did this guy get to remain in the priesthood after ditching his family and running off with his butt buddy? And what's going on in the minds of these 40-odd church leaders who voted for his becoming a bishop?

The "priest," or whatever, of our largest local congregation of Episcopals is a lesbian. When my wife informed me of this (we have some friends who used to go there), I asked, "What, don't they read the Bible?" Of course I instantly realized what a stupid question that was.

The leaders of that church have been boiling the frogs for a long time. The ordination of the homo bishop is just the latest uptick in the temperature. It is a slightly larger change in temperature than usual, but since most of the frogs are already dead, they won't notice. Hopefully, more of the not-yet-dead "frogs" like Mr. Randall and his congregation will notice and jump out of the pot, but I don't expect this to happen in large numbers. Again, I hope I'm wrong.

37 posted on 08/11/2003 7:35:54 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck
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