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Wilson backs Schwarzenegger [Bush praises actor; Ueberroth says he will run]
Sacramento Bee ^ | August 9, 2003 | Sam Stanton and Gary Delsohn -- Bee Staff Writers

Posted on 08/09/2003 7:50:32 AM PDT by RonDog

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:54:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

With one day left for candidates to qualify for the Oct. 7 recall election, former Baseball Commissioner Peter Ueberroth said Friday he would run, while actor Arnold Schwarzenegger picked up the help of former Gov. Pete Wilson and a nod from President Bush.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: TheDon
"I'm surprised that Simon and Ueberroth added their names to the list, especially after Issa did not. Simon joined too late, and no one remembers Ueberroth."

Simon is TO STUPID to grasp that he is stupid, lost when he should have won.

Ueberroth does this type of thing, every so often. Once a savior, always a savior.

All praise to Issa, who did the RIGHT thing. He has a brain which can override his pocketbook and his ego.

Simon, OTOH has Dad's pocketbook, and no brain.

McClintock may come up short of money.
41 posted on 08/09/2003 9:54:54 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: RonDog
Bush lauding Arnold isn't a good thing as far as many California conservatives are concerned. Pete Wilson lauding Arnold is, however.


42 posted on 08/09/2003 9:59:43 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: RonDog
We do not have the luxury of WISHING that this were not the reality.

Arnold doesn't have the luxury of my vote. He should withdraw so that he doesn't siphon votes from McClintock.

Really, I'm not buying into Arnold's "inevitability" factor, I think Hugh's just trying jump on the early bandwagon.


43 posted on 08/09/2003 10:05:24 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Dump Davis - Vote McClintock)
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To: RonDog
If one tabloid pays the right escort service enough money, this campaign changes overnight. No way I'm voting for a liberal with as many seamy skeletons as Arnold.

This is the politics of personality, and it is the problem, not the solution.


44 posted on 08/09/2003 10:09:38 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Dump Davis - Vote McClintock)
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To: AAABEST
It's for the Children! Puke! I've heard that so many times, and all it is, is a "black hole" where money goes and is never seen again.
45 posted on 08/09/2003 10:18:16 AM PDT by Flyover Country
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To: RonDog; AAABEST; Tancredo Fan; Sabertooth
The choice **is** Arnold vs. Cruz.

A vote for Simon, or McClintock or Ueberroth is a vote for THIS guy:

Go ahead make my day. If Bustamente were elected, it would ultimately devatate the DemocRATS both in California and nationally. Three years of Bustamente could insure a generation of Republican governors.

46 posted on 08/09/2003 10:27:52 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: TheDon
If Aaaaaaahnold and his socially revlutionary views don't give you a winner this time, you can nominate Barbara Boxer or Maxine Waters next time. Either one of them is closer to Aaaaaaaahnold ideologically than Aaaaaaaahnold is to Ronald Reagan or George Deukmejian. Yeah, California RINOs: Someday your prince will come!

Hey, wait a minute, that's an idea. You could run the performance artist formerly known as Prince. He's about as well known as Aaaaaaahnold, doesn't just talk a good game on homosexuality but used to be a teen-aged male prostitute (no one else could get that vote for the California RINOs) and you could get Gloria Allred to be counsel to the campaign. Her husband could run fundraisers at his abortion mills by donating, say, 30% of the blood money to the campaign. That would show Muffy and Skipper who's REALLY progressive on social issues. Dykes on Bikes would be happy to provide entertainment at the rallies. You won't have to worry about any of that boring old western civilization or morality in a PAFNA Prince campaign AND he is every bit as Republican as Aaaaaaaahnold without being related to Ted Kennedy.

I know what Aaaaaahnold's campaign is REALLY all about. He has a post-defeat film planned to be produced by Warren Beatty, starring Aaaaaaahnold as a mind-numbed and therefore socially left-wing robot who gets into this race and manages to gull all the GOP suckers into voting for him because they are sooooooo hungry to protect Muffy and Skipper's trust funds that anyone (but a Republican who is pro-life and pro-gun and pro-marriage of the normal variety and anti-adoption by the lifestyle challenged) will do.

What will they do at Californnia RINO headquarters if actual Republicans ever come back to the state party in force?

47 posted on 08/09/2003 10:27:57 AM PDT by BlackElk ( It is always a good day to hunt RINOs without mercy!)
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To: RonDog
Ueberr other

I suspect this will be a waste of time...

48 posted on 08/09/2003 10:32:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ("He's baaaaack!" Now is he on our side or the side of the (political bigger is better) machines.)
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To: DLfromthedesert
I saw Tom Arnold talking to Alan Colmes all excited about Arnold because he puts forth great "Dem" values.

Exactly. That's why the Dems are running so scared right now. Arnold appeals to their base. The media attack dogs were asking Arnold some pretty specific questions yesterday, questions which concern their base such as "Will you repeal the Family Leave Act?" Arnold dodged every question asked of him. He couldn't answer because he doesn't know. I was embarassed for him. He is all style and no substance.

49 posted on 08/09/2003 10:39:35 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Keep the Kennedys out of the California governor's mansion)
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To: RonDog
Friday, August 8, 2003
'Terminator' no 'Gipper' politically Moderate Arnold not in mold of Reagan as actor-turned-governor

Posted: August 8, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Jon Dougherty

Though movie star and former all-star bodybuilder Arnold Schwarzenegger is reminiscent of another actor who ran for governor of California with little electoral experience – Ronald Reagan – judging from his ideological resume, "The Terminator," politically, is no "Gipper."

"This guy may be the next actor elected governor of California, but that's where the similarity between him and 'Ronaldus Magnus' end," said radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh.

"Here me now and believe me later, my friends: all these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are – like the 'Gorbasms' liberals experienced over Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev – fake. I know that 'R' next to Schwarzenegger's name excites the White House, but his own words prove he's not a conservative. I call this 'The Hollywood Syndrome,' and it happens every time some actor-type says anything even remotely conservative. I'm not trying to cold shower anybody here, but don't look to anyone in Hollywood to validate your political ideas."

Schwarzenegger announced this week he would throw his hat in the ring in hopes of replacing Gov. Gray Davis, who faces a statewide recall election Oct. 7.

Schwarzenegger in the first "Terminator" movie.
"I decided that California is in a disastrous situation right now," he said on "The Tonight Show" Wednesday, after announcing he would run for governor. The state is running a $38 billion deficit, but a budget worked out by the Democrat-controlled Legislature and Gov. Davis' office pushes most of that debt to outlying years.

It's a debt that will be a huge challenge for any new chief executive to solve, but Schwarzenegger remains confident, despite being a political novice.
"The politicians are fiddling, fumbling and failing. And the man failing more than anyone is Gray Davis," Schwarzenegger told "Tonight Show" host Jay Leno. "He is failing them terribly, and this is why he needs to be recalled, and this is why I am going to run for governor."

Tough political talk, to be sure, but what it will mean in terms of policy and governance could resemble the Davis administration in a number of ways.
First, Schwarzenegger describes himself as a political moderate rather than a stalwart conservative; on social issues, he says he's "very liberal." For instance, he has said he supports abortion, backs adoption by homosexuals and approves of some gun-control measures.

His most notable political accomplishment to date is the successful funding and championing of California Proposition 49, a statewide ballot that passed by a wide margin in November. The initiative calls for dedicating up to $550 million annually for before- and after-school programs, an education issue traditionally viewed as within the domain of liberal Democrats.

"We want to make sure children aren't left without any books. We want to make sure our children have the books, that they have a place in the castle. We want to make sure that their mothers have affordable day care," Schwarzenegger said in announcing his decision to run against Davis.

While he did head up President George H. W. Bush's Council on Physical Fitness, his marriage to Maria Schriver – daughter of Eunice Kennedy Shriver and former vice presidential candidate Sargent Shriver – is worrying GOP conservatives that leftist political influence is never far away.

When Schwarzenegger considered running against Davis in 2002, he drafted strategists who ran former Republican Gov. Pete Wilson's campaign; Wilson was not known as a conservative.

Some analysts see Schwarzenegger as merely being pragmatic. In California, the most populous state in the union, registered Democrats outnumber Republicans 45 percent to 35 percent. Most political analysts say for a Republican to win there, he or she needs to remain a centrist at best.

And yet, GOP primaries in California tend to favor conservatives. Last year, Dick Mountjoy, president of the conservative California Republican Assembly, told the Associated Press Republican activists would not automatically embrace Schwarzenegger.

"We're very strong in the Constitution, we're very strong in limited government, we believe in family values, that kind of thing, so we're not going to throw all that out the window and take anybody that comes down the pike," he said.

In the March 2002 primary, Republican voters rejected moderate former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan in favor of conservative businessman Bill Simon. Simon went on to lose to Davis; Schwarzenegger was a Riordan supporter.

"For social conservative Republicans, Schwarzenegger is definitely no Ronald Reagan," says an analysis published by LifeSite News. "There are serious reservations about supporting the actor whose views on critical moral issues mirror those of the morally bankrupt Hollywood establishment."

Finally, Schwarzenegger spoke out against the impeachment of President Bill Clinton, noting that he was "ashamed" of Republicans for it.

Conservatives may at least be relieved that Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, is not constitutionally permitted to use the California governor's office as a launching pad for a successful bid for the presidency – another way in which he differs from Reagan.

But "The Terminator" has also discussed traditionally "Republican" issues. For instance, he says he wants to bring businesses back to California instead of relying solely on increasing taxes and cutting programs.

"People are always talking about two things – raising taxes and cutting programs. I think the third one is bringing business back to California and making California a business-friendly environment," Schwarzenegger said outside the Los Angeles County Registrar's Office yesterday.

"It is very important that we straighten out the mess we are in," he said. "I have a very good agenda. The first and most important thing we have to do is we have to overhaul our economic engine in California. We have to bring back businesses to California and to make sure everyone in California has a great job, a fantastic job."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33985

50 posted on 08/09/2003 10:40:18 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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To: BlackElk
Damn. You're #47 and your tag line causes me to take back anything bad I've ever said about you.

Here's a cookie, wanna be my friend?!


51 posted on 08/09/2003 10:41:23 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Sabertooth
I will admit that have not been as active in California politics over the years as I should have been, so that I do not know ALL of the players, and all of the internal politics.
But I **have** invested a rather large chunk of my life supporting WONDERFUL conservatives here who LOST. :(
There are probably MANY OTHERS that we could add to this list, but:
Bruce Herschensohn was a WONDERFUL conservative, and he lost.
Bill Simon was a WONDERFUL conservative, and he lost.
Tom McClintock is a WONDERFUL conservative, and...
Can see any kind of pattern here?
Fool me ONCE, shame on you.
Fool me TWICE, same on ME.


52 posted on 08/09/2003 10:48:11 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: DLfromthedesert; dvan
Your thoughts? (See my post #35)
53 posted on 08/09/2003 10:51:35 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: RonDog
Yikes; a fate WORSE than AZ Gov. Butch Napolitano.
54 posted on 08/09/2003 10:53:57 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: TheDon
Arnold will win the election and become the next govinator, thus the Republicans will hold one statewide office, and the most important one at that. The governor has line item veto power on the budget, and as Arnold says, "As you know, I have plenty of money. I don't need any special interest money."

Yes, but in politics you have to make deals to get what you want. Arnold will sell out anybody he has to in order to get his pet programs in.

55 posted on 08/09/2003 10:56:36 AM PDT by Veggie Todd
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Curious. Who are you supporting?
56 posted on 08/09/2003 11:00:32 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert
McClintock.
57 posted on 08/09/2003 11:04:51 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (A fiscally conservative social liberal is an oxymoron)
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To: RonDog
Good post, I agree entirely. I am more personally in line with McClintock, but I will take 50% to 0%. McClintock has no chance this time around. However, he MAY have a chance in 06 if we get a Republican in there now.

Either that, or is there any chance we could get McClintock to run against Boxer?

58 posted on 08/09/2003 11:16:50 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: BlackElk
"What will they do at Californnia RINO headquarters if actual Republicans ever come back to the state party in force?"

Most of your post is highly speculative, as Arnold will be the next govinator of Cali. I see from the above, Arnold doesn't pass your Republican "litmus test". No wonder Republicans don't hold a single statewide office in Cali, no US senators, and neither house of the legislature. Keep voting for your "true" Republicans, you will be as helpful as the Libertarians.
59 posted on 08/09/2003 11:30:41 AM PDT by TheDon (Why do liberals always side with the enemies of the US?)
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To: RonDog; fieldmarshaldj; ElkGroveDan; Saundra Duffy; ninenot; Polycarp; sittnick
At the rate you are going, maybe you RINO guys can persuade Roseanne Barr to run as a Republican next time with Ellen Degenerate as her running mate or vice versa, what difference? Maybe Jane Fonda can run for Senate as a RINO. You could also get Jacques Chirac to run for governor once he qualifies as a citizen. How about the Zodiac Killer for Attorney General. He has the alternative lifestyle credentials. He's probably the best you can do now that Jeffrey Dahlmer and Ted Bundy are gone. There was a "horse lover" guy (see headline and article on Drudge) in Southern Illinois arrested yesterday for tying up a mare and performing unspeakable (well, not in California) acts upon her until she strangled to death. Aaaaaaahnold can probably make room for him in his cabinet to show how open-minded the California RINOs truly are.

Aaaaaaahnold makes Mayor Moonbeam of Oakland look pretty conservative by comparison. Change the state constitution by initiative so that you can nominate him.

You could move Patricia Ireland to California. She's as Republican as Aaaaaaahnold.

Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden are both available and the election of either would go a long way toward the goal of eliminating the GOP's reputation with airheads as non-inclusive. Beats the heck out of soccer mom nominees!

The Arkansas Antichrist is also between jobs and he is: a political pro, a proven winner in california thanks to the usual gang of RINOs, AND his views on social issues are no worse than Aaaaaahnold's although the AAC is a bit to Aaaaaaaahnold's right on money matters. AND the AAC knows how to answer questions about actual issues which Aaaaaaahnold has yet to do.

Ya really wanna RINO to get a Demonratic Senate seat even only until next fall? Offer the California governorship to Her Satanic Majesty, the Junior Senatething from New York. She will calculate (ohhhhh, will she calculate!) and remember that, other than the Demonrat secular God JFK, no Demonrat and no Democrat has ever been elected president from the Senate and that governorships are where many presidents come from nowadays. Pataki names some modern Charlie Goodell (the political party cross-dresser named by Rockefeller back in 1968 after Sirhan Sirhan's marksmanship). The Demonrats take the seat back in 2004 in the special election but it CANNOT get worse than Mrs. AAC Question: What will you do as governor to deal with the state's fiscal crisis?

Musclehead: It iz clear zu me zat ve need leadership in Zagramendo.

Question: What do you think of Davis tripling the car tax?

Musclehead: It iz very clear zu me zat ve really need new leadership in Zagramendo.

Question: How do you feel about gun confiscation?

Musclehead: Vell, as in many ozzer matterz, ve need bedder leaderzip in Zagramendo. Don't you think?

Question: What was your father doing in World War II?

Musclehead: Vell, ve need.....Ach, zat vun, huh? I do not remember but maybe the National Enquirer or Katie Couric vill help uz recall.

Question: What will you do about conservatives who believe in morality and western civilization

Musclehead: Zat dependz on ze meaning of ze "gonzentrashun Kamp" Zose reactionaries muzt and zey VILL be derminatud! Uncle Teddy (Big Uncle) zhould haff dun zat decades ago. Zat vill be all. Sieg Aaaaaahnold!

[Interviewer shackled and dragged away!]

60 posted on 08/09/2003 11:34:01 AM PDT by BlackElk ( It is always a good day to hunt RINOs without mercy!)
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