Hear Me Now and Believe Me Later (Limbaugh on Schwarzenneger)

RushLimbaugh.com ^ | August 7, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

[ElkGroveDan]

Here me now and believe me later, my friends: all these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are - like the "Gorbasms" liberals experienced over Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev - fake. I know that (R) next to Schwarzenegger's name excites the White House, but his own words prove he's not a conservative. I call this "The Hollywood Syndrome," and it happens every time some actor-type says anything even remotely conservative. I'm not trying to cold shower anybody here, but don't look to anyone in Hollywood to validate your political ideas.

The American Prowler's George Neumayr detailed Arnold's politics in his article "Here's Arnold!" Quote: "[H]e spoke in generalities and banalities about his plans for the state. To the extent that he said anything, he sounded not like a fiscal conservative but a moderate Democrat. He said that he wanted businesses to come back to California so that the state government could collect enough tax revenues to provide social programs. This is the sort of obtuse comment middle-of-the-road Democrats always make, forgetting that businesses are leaving the state because they are tired of paying high taxes for those big government social programs."

More: "He has told the press he is 'very liberal' about social programs, supports abortion and homosexual adoption, and advocates 'sensible gun controls.' His entree into politics last year was a proposition Democrats endorsed because it raised state spending for what amounted to state babysitting - before-school and after-school programs that cost the state up to $455 million a year. He has complained openly about the party's conservatism.... Talk magazine described him as 'impatient' with the religious right.... [H]e expressed disgust with the Republicans who impeached Clinton. 'That was another thing I will never forgive the Republican Party for,' he said. 'We spent one year wasting time because there was a human failure. I was ashamed to call myself a Republican during that period.'"

Does this sound like "the Next Reagan," as some people are calling Arnold? Hardly. This guy may be the next actor elected governor of California, but that's where the similarity between him and Ronaldus Magnus end.

[MattGarrett]

Be realistic. In California at the moment, a moderate Republican is electable.

[lainie]

why-bother syndrome.

One obviously can't vote for a known socialist, and one is wasting time voting for a socialist in conservative clothing that's just going to increase state spending and raise taxes and all that other rot. Yes, in this case, it would mean getting the gray out, but to what end? So we're stuck with something less heinous but still broken? Even if you argue for the latter somehow, what's the point, in the end.

[KQQL]

time to Mulitply your hard work.......RE: the pic...LOL

[u-89]

Anything wrong with posing nude?

His body is a work of art. That photo is no more offensive than Greek and Roman sculptures. Such artisic wonders can be found, for example, in the Vatican Museum.

[lainie]

Nothing at all wrong with it. Just making conversation.

[Abe Froman]

I'm not trying to be a smartass here, but wasn't this country founded by ideologues and reactionary absolutists?

[lainie]

[Abe Froman]

You're probably right, it WILL stay destroyed. That's why I'm not moving there.

Unless someone has the gall to campaign as Arnold is now and then do an about face and throw down the hard line once in office. If that's what he's really doing, he's a genius.

[MineralMan]

"Will Arnold be the first CA governor to have posed nude?"

Seems likely. Another photo to be used on campaign posters?

[Poohbah]

Notice how quick the liberals are going full-blast about how Arnold's a closet Nazi, yada yada yada.

They know which way the wind's blowing, and Rush has demonstrated himself to be a less than expert prognosticator of things political in recent years.

[PsyOp]

I, for one, am voting for McKlintock.

[AngryJawa]

"What I really don't get about his "platform" is this: (a) He sez we can't afford social programs: they have driven away business. (b) He then says that once business comes back, he can resume the social programs. Excuse me, sir, but that won't bring 'em back: the over-regulation and over-taxation drove them away -- the only thing that will get business prosperous is to reduce the burden permanently.

It doesn't make sense to me either. BUT this fact should remain first and foremost in people's minds: Arnold is atttempting to get elected in liberal California. What else can he say? No "pure" conservative can hope to win a statewide there - period.

I'm left with the hope that Arnold wants results more than he wants to stick to the feel-good election promises. If he gets elected and tries to make the status quo work, he'll fail miserably. So what. So would all the other "electable" candidates. I know that's a crappy way to look at things out there, but there are simply no other good options.

California reality actally has me hoping for politicians to lie in order to get elected. Ugh.

[Osage Orange]

I dunno man.........the whole sad affair...has become a freak show.

As you know I'm a native Californian...born and raised..some 30 plus years. I've many fond memories...of my years there.

My last 10-15 years living there...."sealed the deal" for my family and I....& we made plans to leave the state, and never return. The state was "circling the drain" fast...then, and hasn't recovered.

It makes me sad...it makes me mad. But, we've not regretted leaving...not one bit.

FRegards,

[Scott from the Left Coast]

As a conservative person who lives in western Washington (we're about in the same shape as California fiscally -- we're just not as big and so: not as important to the country as whole), I do care a great deal about what happens to my brethren in California. I've also worked against-the-grain in Washington government for 23 years (until getting axed by a highly-partisan RAT), and I know from personal experience and professional experience how thoroughly the green-communist-anarchist-paganist philosophy has taken over in the large urban areas where all the votes are.

I admire California because it has a strong conservative tradition -- there is a sizable conservative community still in California, a minority to be sure, but still sizable. We don't, and have never, had that in Washington. Washington was wobbly and communist stronghold practically from statehood in 1889. The only "conservative" of note to ever win a statewide election in Washington was Scoop Jackson -- a pro-defense Kennedy Democrat!!!

So I have strong feelings about a state that would elect and produce a Ronald Reagan, or even a Richard Nixon. In Washington, Nixon would be considered a far-out right wing nut!

So I do care about California, it is important to the country. And I'd like to see it start moving back toward sanity, because maybe it pull some of the rest of the whacked-out west coast with it.

And I'd be happy with baby-steps, like Arnold represents. Because we can't win [yet] with big, massive revolutions. Attitudes like those in California -- pro-abortion, pro-homosexuality, pro-any strange and weird sexual adventurism, pro-cradle-to-the-grave social programs, etc. etc. -- just won't be given up suddenly, no matter how bad the crisis is. People took generations developing those strange ideas -- it's imbued right down to their souls, who they are as human beings. They won't be righted in a couple of months.

[lainie]

That's my current plan.

[ought-six]

You are indeed correct. Bustamente is going to win this thing because he's Mexican and he'll clean up on the hispanic vote. He'll be the only viable Dim on the ticket (Arianna Huffington is for show, and the porographer and the porn queen, et als, are in the race for publicity only) and thus will garner all of the Dim votes, which outnumber all Republican votes, and those Reb votes will be split among four candidates: Ah-Nold, Simon, Peter Ueberoth and McClintock.

[lainie]

Where's that picture of Grayout swabbing his brow with a hankie? Anybody have that?

[wardaddy]

I agree. It's my pragmatic side which doesn't always win out but you are correct from what I can glean as an outsider.

[ought-six]

"So it is actually nation politics we are talking about, btw I left Cali in 89 cause I didn't like the Politics."

I left Mexifornia for good in 1979. I was born in California, raised there, went to school there, and returned there after I got out of the Air Force in 1974. It had changed so much in the four years I was gone, and by 1979 I saw that the place was doomed, and I bailed.

[u-89]

>People ... have a hard time understanding how completely the socialists (..euro-greens) have won the war of ideas out here.

I have friends out west who are pretty good conservative/libertarian thinkers till it comes to the environment (they're all outdoor sports types). Your comment rings true to me from my exposure. The green propaganda is so effective, to give you one example that this one fellow was convinced clear cutting was all the fault of evil Republicans and greedy corporations. The area of concern was under local Democrat control as was the state and at the time the Dems controlled congress. Yet it was all the fault of the Republicans - and he deeply believed it.