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Hear Me Now and Believe Me Later (Limbaugh on Schwarzenneger)
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | August 7, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/08/2003 8:36:39 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

Here me now and believe me later, my friends: all these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are - like the "Gorbasms" liberals experienced over Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev - fake. I know that (R) next to Schwarzenegger's name excites the White House, but his own words prove he's not a conservative. I call this "The Hollywood Syndrome," and it happens every time some actor-type says anything even remotely conservative. I'm not trying to cold shower anybody here, but don't look to anyone in Hollywood to validate your political ideas.

The American Prowler's George Neumayr detailed Arnold's politics in his article "Here's Arnold!" Quote: "[H]e spoke in generalities and banalities about his plans for the state. To the extent that he said anything, he sounded not like a fiscal conservative but a moderate Democrat. He said that he wanted businesses to come back to California so that the state government could collect enough tax revenues to provide social programs. This is the sort of obtuse comment middle-of-the-road Democrats always make, forgetting that businesses are leaving the state because they are tired of paying high taxes for those big government social programs."

More: "He has told the press he is 'very liberal' about social programs, supports abortion and homosexual adoption, and advocates 'sensible gun controls.' His entree into politics last year was a proposition Democrats endorsed because it raised state spending for what amounted to state babysitting - before-school and after-school programs that cost the state up to $455 million a year. He has complained openly about the party's conservatism.... Talk magazine described him as 'impatient' with the religious right.... [H]e expressed disgust with the Republicans who impeached Clinton. 'That was another thing I will never forgive the Republican Party for,' he said. 'We spent one year wasting time because there was a human failure. I was ashamed to call myself a Republican during that period.'"

Does this sound like "the Next Reagan," as some people are calling Arnold? Hardly. This guy may be the next actor elected governor of California, but that's where the similarity between him and Ronaldus Magnus end.


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To: Poohbah
Schwarzenegger is, first and foremost, an economic and fiscal conservative

How can one be fiscally conservative and socially liberal?

He doesn't like to spend money, but he favors government programs? Sounds like an oxymoron...

161 posted on 08/08/2003 11:24:17 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
I can hardly wait until AS, or whoever else is elected, tells your intolerant carcass to wash the outside of the door of the state capitol. That's the fate you're working very hard to earn.

Bit my ass about being out of state. You screw up your sewer, and you send the rats to me.

162 posted on 08/08/2003 11:24:55 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: NittanyLion
He doesn't like to spend money, but he favors government programs? Sounds like an oxymoron...

"Socially liberal," according to the California "pro-family" rabble-rousers, means he doesn't propose stoning abortionists and homosexuals.

164 posted on 08/08/2003 11:28:22 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Mo1
It is really, really sad that Californian Republicans are closing their eyes to the opportunity of being the party for change instead of harking back to the past (failed) candidates and minority conservatives. Arnold represents, to those of us outside California, the opportunity to begin an education process that we Republicans ARE different from the Dems, who want everybody to march lock-step with their every issue, to pander to every special interest that gives them money. Arnold has declared himself in a "special interest free" zone, and truthfully, is probably the one stance that most weary Californians can respect enough to vote for.
165 posted on 08/08/2003 11:29:53 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (I like everyone else's tag better than mine.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Wow, I try to reason with you that you don't have a dog in this fight, and that you utterly don't have a clue what you are talking about, and you have a hatefilled temper tantrum talking about my dead body and biting your butt, etc.

That's means I won, kid.
166 posted on 08/08/2003 11:30:37 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: Poohbah
I am inclined to agree with you and that is coming from a lifelong (and a long life) as a conservative. Frankly, I'm getting more than a little tired of those "know-it-all" conservative commentators who are so sure of their superiority over their listeners. I'll name a few. Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. Everytime I listen to any of them they are talking down to me and I was here long before them, and know as much as they do. One difference is, I have known it longer.
167 posted on 08/08/2003 11:33:16 AM PDT by billhilly (No monument has been erected to a cynic)
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To: alwaysconservative
Well I can understand the concerns that many have about Arnold because what I have read, he isn't a "true" conservative. He is pro-choice some issues. But he does have a business back ground and he could pull CA out of their 38 Billion deficit. Plus you need to look and the whole picture and climate of many voters in CA. Chances are many won't vote for a hard line right conservative at this time. Maybe in the furture .. but I don't see that happening now

With that said, I don't know a hole lot about the other canidates, maybe they can pull it off and get the votes needed to win.
168 posted on 08/08/2003 11:41:35 AM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: ElkGroveDan
If Arnold wins, does that mean he won't make any more movies?
169 posted on 08/08/2003 11:46:20 AM PDT by TomEwall
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Yes, you "won".

Here's your prize.

You know, I have an idea. I think I'll put a list of names in my profile of folks who have proven themselves to be hopeless clymers. Than, if you see your name there, you won't be surprised if I ignore you. Also, when my people are in power, I can ensure they won't bother with punks like youeither.

170 posted on 08/08/2003 11:47:12 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Cyber Liberty
*L* .. that's in line with what I wanted to say yesterday when I was told to keep out of it cause I wasn't a CA voter




171 posted on 08/08/2003 11:47:12 AM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: Mo1
If CA was an island, and we could just pull up the drawbridge, then I would not care what happens to them.
172 posted on 08/08/2003 11:48:34 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Arnold is a gift to America.

He is an inspiration, fiscally sharp (Masters in Economics), and larger than life.

His impact on the Republican movement in California will be enormous.

Rush is dead wrong.

Schwarzenegger is the classic immigrant who made it big.

The American Dream come true. Arnold laments its passage in California, because it was the stuff of legends.

A return to this nostalgic past is as conservative as one gets, and I will support him wholeheartedly.

I suggest all Freepers do as well - IF YOU WANT TO LIVE.
173 posted on 08/08/2003 11:51:49 AM PDT by Stallone
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To: Poohbah
Schwarzenegger is, first and foremost, an economic and fiscal conservative, and that's California's problem right now. You're right, it's a free country, and that loudmouth blowhard is free to demonstrate his ignorance to his heart's content

That sure is an ironic couple of sentences. Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for that link that demonstrates that Arnuld is "first and foremost an economic and fiscal conservative" other than the ones regurgetating these Talking Points.

*taps foot waiting*

174 posted on 08/08/2003 11:52:19 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
That sure is an ironic couple of sentences. Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for that link that demonstrates that Arnuld is "first and foremost an economic and fiscal conservative" other than the ones regurgetating these Talking Points.

*taps foot waiting*

Your check to pay for my valuable time hasn't cleared.

175 posted on 08/08/2003 11:54:04 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Oh please, do me the Honor of "ignoring" me and don't ever waste my time with your childish, petty, ridicuously vile invectives & naming calling as long as you live.

goodbye.

176 posted on 08/08/2003 11:56:01 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Well, not all in CA a annoying .. just a few
177 posted on 08/08/2003 11:57:07 AM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
I hope you are right.

Davis won't be on the ticket though will he? I understand that a person can vote against he recall and still vote for a person if the recall succeeds. I suspect those people will vote for the LT. Governor.

I would feel allot better if Simon pulls out. Issa did the right thing, the Statesmen thing.
178 posted on 08/08/2003 11:57:45 AM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: Poohbah
Your check to pay for my valuable time hasn't cleared.

If payment is what you require to backup your Talking Points I'd be happy to write it. I'd like to know that he's demonstrated he's a fiscal conservative. He probably would get my vote over Tom then.

As it stands, I think the both you and your actor friend are lying to me.

179 posted on 08/08/2003 11:58:12 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: CyberCowboy777
I would feel allot better if Simon pulls out. Issa did the right thing, the Statesmen thing.

Exactly. Although Simon is so weak it might not even matter. I hope someone explains that to him.

180 posted on 08/08/2003 11:59:02 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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